OpenAI announces they've developed a truly sentient AI
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38386487
We're all going to die.
Ahead of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman's four days in exile, several staff researchers sent the board of directors a letter warning of a powerful artificial intelligence discovery that they said could threaten humanity, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
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The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q* (pronounced Q-Star), which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup's search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI defines AGI as AI systems that are smarter than humans.
Edit: The linked /pol/ thread is kinda insane
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They're now trying to cover it up 
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I need to write an effortpost on why AGI is a myth simply because intelligent humans aren't that smart. I used to think there could be a superintelligence but now I think that you end up with a human level (read: fallible) intelligence that you could idiotically worship as a God.
Certainly people already worship individual humans as gods (lower case).
But in this case the configuration of the AGI is where the attempt to create a divinity lives. To worship a computer is just worshipping the actions of those who programmed that computer, so you're still worshipping human fallibility but with extra steps in the form of misdirection.
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that's not what God is, "creating God" is an oxymoron
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You would think so, but in practice human societies orient around rituals which produce a divine association. This is true in every human culture. Whether or not the "God" behind a Christian Monarchy of the 15th century is "created" or not is basically missing the point: people believed that God was involved in the establishment of the Monarch.
What is frightening about our reality is that we create 'god' with our worship, and everybody worships. Thus: the cat god Marsey
which we gather around. I am not actually joking when I say that Marsey is a spirit with a lot of power.
That said, "creating God" is an oxymoron if you believe in God capital-G, sure.
These people aren't even aware that they're worshipping a computer as if it is God. That's the "omniscient" part of the godhead which they are hoping/fearing to create.
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That's partly what I'm saying the point of having a God is so that we don't fall into that trap
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I personally would agree with you, Christ is King. I just don't tend to like engaging with capital-G God myself because I prefer having Christ the human as an insulating form. "Christ is the ordering of my mindless obedience."
Feed the hungry, heal the sick, live for your fellow humans, don't overcomplicate it.
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To each their own
If I wasn't bamboozled as a kid to believe there were an observer with a graceful and all knowing mind, who also has authority over my eternal future, I'd have done much worse things as a kid because kids are r-slurred, so for that alone I'm down with big G
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yeah kids are a different game tbh, you have to ease them into the christian atheism God is Dead and we're all burrowing through Its rotting flesh like ravenous scavengers radical Christianity as the horror of c r e a t i o n enters their vision (
TRULY
GOD IS GREAT
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I cannot understand what it is that you've written
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Death of God theology was popular in my early 20s, a lot of extended meditation on what, precisely, it is which died on the Cross. (God, which is to say certainty, died on the cross, as even Jesus Wept.)
Zizek rose to prominence (in my circles) by echoing some of the tenets of Death of God theology in, IIRC, The Puppet and the Dwarf.
There are some things so horrible and absurd and nightmarish like war and loneliness and inevitability that it is better not to try and explain them through any philosophy or religion, but to bow your head in humility before the divine scalding, and intone: truly, God is Great.
For only God could have brought us on this voyage of the obscene.
(Put another way, Atheists are just playing out their "God"-given trauma in a philosophical exegesis which robs them of their connection to the very real supernatural.)
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Read some Plotinus and early Church Fathers if you want a better exploration of "God" in the classical theist tradition (usually apophatic theology). IMO, the typical personalist "God" (usually cataphatic theology) usually just acts as a mental canvas onto which people project their own conceptions and preferences.
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I'm past the point where I'm reading about religion much but I do seem to recall Plotinus as well as Augustine. My favorites were the desert fathers, scattered ascetics. Agreed on personalist "God" which is why I don't bother much with capital-G God.
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I'm not recommending you read about religion. I'm recommending you read about philosophy.
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philosophy is just displaced reading about religion IMO
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Most of what you do on RDrama is amateurish grasping at philosophy so if you're going to continue pontificating here, you might as well familiarize yourself with people more skilled at it than you.
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sounds like someone's envious of my popularity tbh.
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if God is omnipotent, don't you think he can create God
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prolly
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Yeah, look how many dumb mistakes GPT makes which we recognise because we're smarter than it. An AI that was smarter than us would be doing dumb shit so high brow and complicated that we won't even recognise that it is dumb shit until it blows up in our faces.
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It doesn't matter how loudly you insist that AGI is a myth. The IRS is still going to make you pay your taxes, bud.
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this is like the only good rejoinder in the entire goddarn thread, good job
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Aren't that smart compared to what?
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potatoes
a potato couldn't believe a complicated wrong story about the intelligence of potatoes
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Potatoes have no nervous system. Are rocks smarter than potatoes? Such a question is about as useful as asking whether clouds are more creative than volcanoes.
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precisely. humans aren't intelligent, they're just speaking clouds
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There is no such thing as a speaking cloud. The concept of intelligence captures an existential facet of reality. The question of the metrics by which it can be measured is a different matter, but in denying its existence altogether, you might as well indulge in solipsism. Solipsism is a meme in the field of philosophy for good reason.
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you must unlearn what you have learned
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What have I learned?
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a linear conception of intelligence
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fleshed out systems/institutions are more powerful than the person founding them. consider it like hydrolics, the power input is multiplied by the arrangement of the system. similarly, the emergent properties of the Agi will easily surpass the abilities & imagination of its programmer
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you are victim of a religion in which you imagine that the computer will become god
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if a carpenter can become God for some reason, then so can the table and the computer above it
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humans can't directly modify ourselves thousands of times a day to try and optimize ourselves for a specific goal yet
what is the industrial revolution
we're fricking r-slurred on the whole but to a dog we're godlike beings
it's all relative
what makes you believe that an object of reverence has to be infallible?
which means you're worshiping a man, so you're really worshiping the thing that created the man (the universe (see: God))
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Nibba, do you know what neurons are?
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It isn't as smart as a human, and it can't self-improve. Everyone who gets excited about this stuff is being fooled by the fact they called it "AI" when if they called it what it really was (kinda neat statistical lookup algorithm) none of you would give a frick. If these silicon valley buttholes had called bitcoin AI Coin you'd all be bagholders
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But what if something marginally smarter than us then creates something marginally smarter than it and so on?
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that's the false belief in a linear intelligence
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