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TIL Intel annouced the specs for Thunderbolt 5 late last year - PCIe 4.0x4 support, 80Gbps
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When it works Thunderbolt is incredible. I have a very slick work setup that requires a single cable to my dock.
However it does hate sleep (Windows moment, I thought Linux was the one with broken sleep ) and my current laptop (T14 Gen 1) does not obey the TB3 spec and won't run my second display (4K@60Hz) unless I used a secondary cable on it's regular USB-C port
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I have a p15 and l14 gen2 thinkpads, both sleep fine when connected to my monitor/dock but I remember I did something to prevent them from waking up unnecessarily. I have this monitor https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/p/accessories-and-software/monitors/home/66c9uac1in which basically acts like a dock, even delivers power to the laptop over single cable while taking 4k60 display
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Yeah it seems to be a limitation of my Gen 1 - it just doesn't seem to run support for a second DisplayPort output - because it does work on the generic USB-C output. First world problems to have to have two cables connected lol
This is the dock I use https://www.anker.com/products/a8397?variant=41025924759702
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And the only consumer product to ever use this will be an external SSD
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nah, I think you'd see more effect with an external GPU.
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USB was pretty sweet in the 2000s and early 2010s, it's a shame how they've butchered the standard
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USB was always kind of meh tho.
FireWire was better.
Clearly the USB forum can't name for shit though, this Thunderbolt 5 standard support USB 4.0 V2, why not just call it USB 5.0???
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can't daisy chain firewire, also it sucked butt r-slur
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hi Soren
I believe a selling point of FireWire was daisy-chaining, hence Thunderbolt continued supporting that. I don't think USB even supports it now
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Literally any USB device can integrate a hub to support chaining. It isn't even rare if you look at devices like keyboards and monitors.
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Isn't a hub architecture different from daisy chaining?
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It depends on whether you mean spec-wise or functionally.
Spec-wise, it's different from a system that requires daisy-chaining (most original SCSI) or considers it an optional part of implementing the device spec. Firewire had, at most, the latter; the original iPod was Firewire but only offered one port. Can't chain with one port.
Functionally, though, bundling hubs into devices is similar in capability, performance, and complexity to a spec that allows devices to optionally daisy-chain. It may also be simpler, as it decouples device versus hub concerns in the spec. It also categorically avoids problem aspects of early device chaining, like addressing and termination (more SCSI issues than Firewire).
It's a better design to have devices with optional integrated hubs than auto-terminated, optional device daisy-chain support.
Integrating USB hubs also started really early on. The original iMac has a keyboard that plugged into USB on the back of the computer and offered USB ports for the mouse. This kept an import aspect of Apple's earlier serial bus, which supported connecting the mouse via the keyboard.
USB4 (basically TB3) considers each node to be a router with zero or more devices and zero or more hubs:
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I apologize, I was just trying to start shit, I don't care about cables
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all good!
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Snapshots:
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Should I hold off on buying a new pc or not?
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In context of Thunderbolt 5?
No, I don't think this would apply to the question of building a new PC.
What kind of rig are you thinking of? Desktop?
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what does that mean
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