I am probably not the first person to notice 
this but I don't think I've seen anyone else talk about it in these terms before.
As we all know, the internet sucks compared to 10 years ago. Specifically, search engines and easily accessible information sources are much less useful than they were in the past. As many have pointed out (and as I like to bring up whenever relevant) a lot of the blame lies with SEOshit, and another sizeable chunk of the blame lies with the groomercordification of communities. 
In case you've missed all of my own and others' rants on the topic, what I mean by groomercordification is the currentyear+9 tendency of online communities to use groomercord instead of a forum or subreddit or wiki for everything from community organization (meh) to information archiving (very, very bad).
To use an example most of you incels should be able to relate to, take vidya gayme mods. A decade ago, developers of a mod would use either a legacy self-hosted forum, self-hosted wiki (usually in combination with a forum), or a dedicated subreddit to share general information with each other and with their users. Information such as installation instructions, community feature requests, compatibility details, current status of codecel efforts, details of codecel efforts (I believe the codecels call this "documentation"), et cetera.
In CY+9, it is increasingly common for vidya mods to have no web presence other than a splash page referring you to their groomercord. Want installation instructions? Refer to groomercord. Want to request a feature? Refer to groomercord. Want extremely basic FAQ-tier tech support? Refer to groomercord. Want to know some details about the code in order to diagnose compatibility problems with other mods? Refer to groomercord. Want to ask other users an extremely basic question about the mod? Refer to groomercord.
This phenomenon has taken over all kinds of communities, but modding is an example where I've personally observed it multiple times over. A lot of the types of information I listed above are going to be frequently requested by users. In the old times, we had these things called "installation instructions" and "FAQs" on static web pages. The best thing about these static web pages was that they could be retrieved on demand, at any time, with no action required by anybody but the requestor, by entering keywords into a search engine. Similarly, we had these things called "forums" where you could check whether somebody had already asked the question you're about to ask by searching for it before asking.
Finally, my novel (to me) point: why are we backsliding to a state where basic information is gated behind a login wall and mandatory interaction with other people?
One more sidestep: chatbots.
Chatbots are an innovative way for companies to outsource their tech support to a computer/not have to pay for call centers. They're pretty good for 90% of tech support problems, since 90% of tech support problems can be solved by walking the tech-illiterate customer through the process of turning their device off and back on again. Having a robot do this instead of a person saves a looooot of money. More recently chatbots have taken on a new meaning as the most common frontend for AIs, probably because they're easy to interface with even if you're tech illiterate. Can you see where I'm going with this?
The groomercordification of everything, and especially of things that should not be groomercordified (anything that would traditionally be on a wiki), is just another result of the normie takeover of the internet. A loooooot of people (apparently the vast majority) strongly prefer to consume technical information in a conversation style versus reading a document, so the state of things has drifted towards enforced conversation-style information consumption. This has had horrible consequences for the general availability of information that should logically be retrievable on demand from a static source.
Yes, this is rather galaxybrained and obvious in hindsight.
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I've heard this before (maybe from you) and I agree with it
Groomercord is a black hole and there's no way to get the useful information out of it
This is really what did make reddit great originally.. you could search for that stuff and only ask if you couldn't just find it.
And obviously wikis and forums.
Groomercord is going full circle back to the old days where people used IRC for this stuff. It's regressive.
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I've complained about it a bunch in the past but never put together why it was happening for whatever reason, probably because it seems like such a strict downgrade from my pov.
I wonder if you could measure the economic impact of this. Common sense groomercord regulation 2024
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Realistically it's probably a mixture of:
1. The weed dealer who will only sell to people who hang out with him phenomena
2. Wannabe janny types begging anyone with a modicum of clout to make a server (if you don't they'll make it without you)
3. Hyper online weirdos increasingly turning against reddit and large wiki sites for not being socialist enough or whatever
4. Everyone else is doing it, I will too
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I think part of it is convenience or laziness. Maybe it's easier to set up a Groomercord server than a dedicated wiki or forum, and it also only requires one account rather than 10 different accounts on 10 different websites. That's the same reason Reddit is popular. And as
@Cyberstalker mentioned, it's easier to "contribute" to Groomercord than a wiki, for example. I think it's mostly dedicated fans who edit wikis, while casuals can just write a few messages or ask questions and then leave. The reasons I wrote here don't explain why they choose Groomercord instead of a forum like Reddit though.
From my experience using Reddit and similar sites like rDrama, a lot of questions simply don't get responses. I don't know if it's the same for Groomercord or regular forums. Does the linear "conversation" format of Groomercord make it more likely for someone to respond?
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That's plausible, but I think it's because it's easier and cheaper to setup a groomercord channel as opposed to buying (renting) a domain, setting up DNS crap, and creating and maintaining a webpage.
Others have forums and all that already there for modders, but then you can only control your single thread. Groomercord gives you full control over your strag station or whatever they call it, but the former sounds better because who wants to janny a chatroom?
Jannies want to. The janniefication of America is what's ruining the internet. Their numbers have increased significantly over the years. They run rampant, banning people and locking threads unjustly. We must stop them. We must hunt down and kill every single janny that has ever touched a keyboard. Leave no basement unturned. Nail them to crosses, prop them up, and watch them asphyxiate in the broiling sun. Then cut them down and drop their bodies over a cliff onto more jannies. Log out and kill a janny today.
!chuds, Save the internet. Destroy the jannies.
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Explain the r-slurs who set up a github repo and then link to groomercord for info instead of just typing it into the fricking README
WHY DO THE ZOOMERS DO THIS TO ME
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They could not.. commit.
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!teaparty AJAB
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If I could do it in half an hour at the age of like 15 with no real codecel ability beyond script kiddiedom these people have no excuse
You're right though, the real enemy is and has always been the busybody wannabe jannies
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Late to the party
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I had a feeling I was but I've never personally read anybody articulate it like this as far as I can remember
Edit: specifically the causality. The phenomenon itself is widely known and complained about.
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That's because you said the silent
part, the part that was implicitly understood by those who care, out loud. Just like no one really 
expounds on cars replacing horses because we all implicitly understand why
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I am a little special sometimes
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NOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ARGUE WITH ME FOR 60+ COMMENTS NOOOOOO
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When the options are between someone else being wrong and me being an r-slur, it's usually me being an r-slur (or both)
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Bro I used to play gacha games and each character had their own groomercord so if you want to find out how to beat build or play a character you have to first find the groomercord dedicated to them, then find the channel with info, then look through the pins for any guides. It sucked
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If we want to continue with the video game/game mod example, we could add stages to this process defined by the form which the community's online documentation takes (including all documentation within the game could be stage 0, but it's difficult to include everything, although minecraft modpacks are getting very close to doing this via in-game books).
1: independent forum/wiki just for the mod itself (not a fandom wiki): If the forum/wiki isn't replaced by something lower on this list but more popular, the most likely reason it would die is if the game itself loses it's active playerbase.
2: long-running thread/subforum on a public forum not exclusive to the game: At least it doesn't have infinite scroll and can usually be searched without verifying an account. These kinds of forums also tend to discourage off-topic interactions that are common on groomercord.
3: fandom wiki/fextralife wiki: These are different from independent wikis due to having mandatory features added by the owners of the wiki service used (such as ads or embedded twitch streams), and they have a tendency to be rarely updated until long after the information is relevant. Importantly, the comments are a major feature of these wikis instead of being on a talk page that normoids don't know how to access, but on larger wikis they are either locked or made irrelevant through infinite scroll. Also, they can technically be modified by site-wide moderators, which is usually not an issue for video games but has been abused for other wikis in the past.
4: groomercord: no explanation needed.
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The nerds who know all of the info that would go into a wiki/FAQ are already hanging out in groomcords with their neet buddies, answering questions in real time. Creating the faq using pinned messages naturally follows from this.
We were blessed with faqs on indexed web pages only because this was the path of least resistance at the time.
If you're struggling to keep up you should just start searching for the groomercord link
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I guess I'm already an out of touch boomer; I refuse to use it on principle
If you're not going to put your documentation somewhere that I, the end user, can easily find it, then I can't really be bothered with it
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I have also wailed and gnashed my teeth
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T. Indian
!totaldiscuetwinkdeath
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R-slurred zoomer detected.
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I associate the word with 🤢millennial🤮 thinkpieces more than anything, and as much as I despise millennials I find it to be a useful phrase for the specific variety of decay it refers to.
It appears the term was popularized by a genxer.
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Whenever I see someone use the term on orange site I can fairly accurately predict their account age and discard their opinions.
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I also associate it with millennials, specifically the kind that claim tumblr's attempt to clean itself up in 2018 was bad for a reason other than "it spread the users to every other site", use Bluesky or a fediverse instance with a more r-slurred URL, and are proud to be a somethingawful user but make sure to say they weren't one of those "icky pre-2014 forum users".
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I am new to GitHub and I have lots to say
I DONT GIVE A FRICK ABOUT THE FRICKING CODE! i just want to download this stupid fricking application and use it https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock#installation
WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FRICKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfricks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don't understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FRICK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FRICKING SMELLY NERDS
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