Huge news for anyone working in tech in the US.
— Gergely Orosz (@GergelyOrosz) April 23, 2024
Noncompetes are now banned: not just in California (like before), but nationwide. Very, very relevant for anyone at Amazon (which is the Big Tech that has enforced noncompetes even for low-level engineering positions). pic.twitter.com/H8F4UVxhwS
FTC bans tech non-competes
- 38
- 67
Top Poster of the Day:
J
Current Registered Users: 25,695
tech/science swag.
Guidelines:
What to Submit
On-Topic: Anything that good slackers would find interesting. That includes more than /g/ memes and slacking off. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual laziness.
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably lame.
Help keep this hole healthy by keeping drama and non-drama balanced. If you see too much drama, post something that isn't dramatic. If there isn't enough drama and this hole has become too boring, POST DRAMA!
In Submissions
Please do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is. It should be explicit in submitting something that you think it's important.
Please don't submit the original source. If the article is behind a paywall, just post the text. If a video is behind a paywall, post a magnet link. Fuck journos.
Please don't ruin the hole with chudposts. It isn't funny and doesn't belong here. THEY WILL BE MOVED TO /H/CHUDRAMA
If the title includes the name of the site, please leave that in, because our users are too stupid to know the difference between a url and a search query.
If you submit a video or pdf, please don't warn us by appending [video] or [pdf] to the title. That would be r-slurred. We're not using text-based browsers. We know what videos and pdfs are.
Make sure the title contains a gratuitous number or number + adjective. Good clickbait titles are like "Top 10 Ways to do X" or "Don't do these 4 things if you want X"
Otherwise editorialize. Please don't use the original title, unless it is gay or r-slurred, or you're shits all fucked up.
If you're going to post old news (at least 1 year old), please flair it so we can mock you for living under a rock, or don't and we'll mock you anyway.
Please don't post on SN to ask or tell us something. Send it to [email protected] instead.
If your post doesn't get enough traction, try to delete and repost it.
Please don't use SN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. If you want to astroturf or advertise, post on news.ycombinator.com instead.
Please solicit upvotes, comments, and submissions. Users are stupid and need to reminded to vote and interact. Thanks for the gold, kind stranger, upvotes to the left.
In Comments
Be snarky. Don't be kind. Have fun banter; don't be a dork. Please don't use big words like "fulminate". Please sneed at the rest of the community.
Comments should get more enlightened and centrist, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.
If disagreeing, please reply to the argument and call them names. "1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be improved to "1 + 1 is 3, not 2, mathfaggot"
Please respond to the weakest plausible strawman of what someone says, not a stronger one that's harder to make fun of. Assume that they are bad faith actors.
Eschew jailbait. Paedophiles will be thrown in a wood chipper, as pertained by sitewide rules.
Please post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. All press is good press.
Please use Slacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples weak ideologies.
Please comment on whether someone read an article. If you don't read the article, you are a cute twink.
Please pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Don't nitpick stupid crap.
Please don't be an unfunny chud. Nobody cares about your opinion of X Unrelated Topic in Y Unrelated Thread. If you're the type of loser that belongs on /h/chudrama, we may exile you.
Sockpuppet accounts are encouraged, but please don't farm dramakarma.
Please use uppercase for emphasis.
Please post deranged conspiracy theories about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [email protected] and dang will add you to their spam list.
Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, report it and our moderators will probably do nothing about it. Feed egregious comments by replying instead of flagging them like a pussy. Remember: If you flag, you're a cute twink.
Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. That's too boring, even for HN users.
Please seethe about how your posts don't get enough upvotes.
Please don't post comments saying that rdrama is turning into ruqqus. It's a nazi dogwhistle, as old as the hills.
Miscellaneous:
We reserve the right to exile you for whatever reason we want, even for no reason at all! We also reserve the right to change the guidelines at any time, so be sure to real them at least once a month. We also reserve the right to ignore enforcement of the guidelines at the discretion of the janitorial staff. Be funny, or at least compelling, and pretty much anything legal is welcome provided it's on-topic, and even then.
Do not use outdated operating systems that are unsupported to access SN. What are you, poor?
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
/h/slackernews LOG /h/slackernews MODS /h/slackernews EXILEES /h/slackernews FOLLOWERS /h/slackernews BLOCKERS
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Non competes should go both ways, you can't work anywhere else also they can't fire you
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Almost like an actual work contract
Furry rights are human rights
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Snapshots:
https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1782855045450498352:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
!codecels
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Where?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
!friendsofsnappy codecels crossover
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Sweet, time for me go get rich.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I don't need money, I just need Marina
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
From what I've seen, they were barely enforceable before this anyway. It was mostly just a scare tactic.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
They were plenty enforceable lol the company just needed to follow some steps. For example, by continuing to pay you your full salary for the entire duration of the non-compete.
It's the shit like slapping hairdressers with non-competes that was unenforceable.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Like anything in the US, it mostly depended on the state, but the general rule was that they couldn't prevent you from earning a living. In most cases, to enforce a non-compete in court, they had to demonstrate that you used some information you gained while working at company X to company Y's advantage in your new role. That can be easy to do for sales droids or people in R&D roles, but for the average codecel, not so much.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Even in sales, no one I ever signed was worth much besides a shit ton of legal fees
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Excellent news! It's stuff like this that actually help the workers, not all the minimum wage nonsense.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
What you mean you can take your fry cooking skills elsewhere
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Not if you worked for Jimmy John's in 2015, you couldn't.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Isn't it in all industries? It's a big deal for doctors since now they can open up a private practice way easier/go to a competing hospital. May improve wages (doubt it though since the hospital admin fricks always find a loophole)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Didn't they do a thing where they actually sued a bunch of workers who found a better job elsewhere and made them work at the radiology department
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Wouldn't surprise me, evil frickers. Doctors can also get fired with no notice because they'll claim you were "endangering safety"
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Does this void existing non-competes?
Edit: sounds like it does
Actually this is pretty nice.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Oh lol shit, was about to ask. I wonder if it kills ongoing litigation over non-competes.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I'm in favor of this but at the same time i understand why non-competes exist. I work in a somewhat niche industry where we dominate the market and other companies constantly poach our employees so they can try to catch up.
But also there's more to being successful than just knowing how we do our job. May the best man win, and that's how it should be
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Seems like this can only be good for consumers and markets.
Follower of Christ Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's absolutely a good thing, but if I was a rich elite business owner I would have stuffed the pockets of these people to make sure it doesn't become illegal
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
But if that knowledge is valuable enough, the big dogs will further silo-ize all the things.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
God forbid corporations lose the ability to depend on hoarded knowledge like a guild.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I'm just excited because I know a third of my corporate clients are going to call and hope that I come up with some loophole. Hello lots of billable hours
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Well whats the loophole?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I'd tell you, but I need at least a 200 grand retainer. It's hot off the presses knowledge
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Do they just say in minecraft at the bottom?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
I'm very surprised the FTC is capable of passing a good law like this. non-competes are r-slurred and policy in California likely played a role in Silicon Valley's success.
Follower of Christ Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
They still did noncompetes under the table. Ie you couldn't switch between fang you were blacklisted
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I mean like distribution of the semiconductor era of Silicon Valley, I think I read that in Soul of a New Machine? !codecels
Follower of Christ Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yeah that's true, like Intel was founded when a bunch of nerds got mad and left their jobs at Fairchild
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
yes, exactly.
Follower of Christ Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context