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Machine learning or not, seo spam sort of killed search. It's more or less impossible to find real sites by interesting humans these days. Almost all results are Reddit, YouTube, content marketing, or seo spam. And google's failure here killed the old school blogosphere (medium and substack only slightly count), personal websites, and forums

Same is happening to YouTube as well. Feels like it's nothing but promoters pushing content to gain followers to sell ads or other stuff because nobody else's videos ever surface. Just a million people gaming the algorithm and the only winners are the people who devote the most time to it. And by the way, would I like to sign up for their patreon and maybe one of their online courses?

:#marseyhesright:

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!codecels This is why giving users the ability to block content is so important. Youtube only stopped being shit after I start blocking every single bulshit channel and scammer keyword.

Same with reddit, I've blocked 1000s of subs (literally ever gaming sub) and 10,000s of users and the site is now a lot less shit

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Ya, i might like a dude but if i see DESTROYED im not watching that video

!commenters

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I want an AI that IDs and block soyface videos

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this doesn't scale, the rate at which you see spam comments is just going to go up and up while you can only block/report users with a fixed capacity

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SEO spam isn't the problem, it's Google caring only about how much they can sell ad listings for. Half the results are sponsored, the other half are politically filtered to show what Google thinks you should see, rather than what you asked for.

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Thats why i exclusively seatch with yandex, then ddg if i cant get what i need for some reason, and lastly by google if heaven forbid im dragged to it

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I think that'll define the industry for the coming decades. I used to work in machine translation and it was the same. The older rules-based engines that were carefully crafted by humans worked well on the test suite and if a new case was found, a human could fix it. When machine learning came on the scene, more “impressive” models that were built quicker came out - but when a translation was bad no one knew how to fix it other than retraining and crossing one's fingers.

Cope lol, AI translation is infinitly better than your butt shitted out in the past decades.

Cant wait for AI to rule over humanity.

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:marseysnappyenraged2typing#:

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but when a translation was bad no one knew how to fix it other than retraining and crossing one's fingers

"We should go back to horses, I could fit a horseshoe but can't understand these darn combustion engines"

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Even better, the engineers who created them also can't debug them

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Maintaining software is very important, it's not just output, managing complexity is very important in these large systems

One of the examples was there was a random bug that was reordering results 15% of the time, if you have layers and layers of complex machine learning code, having someone going in to fix it is a major task. That will amplify as bugs build up, then the teams stop buildings new shit because the old stuff has such a backlog.

AI is going to be great but it's going to add a ton of unpredictablility, randomly shitty results and small details that get overlooked

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>open chatgpt

>Prompt: fix this bug

Easy

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how do I long term bet against google/alphabet?

Like not a degen option that goes x1000 next week, but when google goes down 20% in 2 years I want 20% money more

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Invest in Yahoo. :#platyrich:

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Yahoo is washed. AskJeeves is the real dark horse candidate.


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Long dated bear put or call spreads, or just outright shortsell the stock since the cost to borrow is extremely low for Google and will probably remain that way. I am considering doing it tbh, although leaning more towards direct short sale since really long dated spreads have generally bad bid/ask so you're already starting in the negative.

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I fear that their search results are shit because that shit is profitable. and consoomers tolerate it. as soon that changes, if a serious competitor appears and consoomers switch over in significant numbers, google search will rapidly improve again.

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Open ai is the competition. Google search is at least somewhat about answering questions. The rest is about news and you arent getting that if you use Google tbh

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Long dated puts

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Why would you? They're still the only game in town, their revenue is still growing no matter how bad search gets.

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You can trade long term options bb

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Shorts

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Apparently you can filter out SEO if you add before:2022 (or w/e year) in your search

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How would that do anything? SEO is just "optimizing" your webpages in a way that google indexes it well and gives you a good rank for relevant keywords; that has been the case since at least the early 2010s (actually way earlier but the early search rank algorithms were caveman crap), so I don't think this would be very useful. Or are you saying just adding this filter will "turn off" the search rank/page rank algorithm bullshit? Gonna hit that with a :marseyxdoubt:

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Google also changed it so the date of a webzone in the search filter matches the date currently listed on the page instead of the date the crawlers first listed it at.

Makes searching for actually recent results a pain in the tookus.

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SEO content that was created ten years ago still appears as created last week, because they constantly "update" it (without changing the actual content) to ensure it appears in recent results.

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Idk I tried it by setting it to 2020 and earlier and it does seem to return more relevant results :marseyshrug:

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It's probably when AI started doing the job and chatGPT is better at SEO than us

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I read that on youtube you have to add before:2025 (or any year in the future) to rule out certain spam.

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:marseytunaktunak: JEEZ I SURE WONDER WHAT THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IS :marseytunaktunak:

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