https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40209382
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40214619
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40211027
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40222501
Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team
Electric-car maker's public policy unit also being disbanded as chief announces in memo hundreds more jobs to be cut
Elon Musk has shut down the division that runs Tesla's Supercharger business, dismissed two senior executives and fired hundreds more staff as the electric-car maker continues its restructuring amid a sharp downturn in the EV market.
Musk announced internally on Monday that the head of the superchargers group, Rebecca Tinucci, and Daniel Ho, head of new products, would be leaving along with their entire teams. About 500 people were in the supercharger group, the memo said.
Tesla's supercharger system is among the largest charging networks in the world, and was one the reasons the company enjoyed such a commanding lead over rival carmakers for so long. While the supercharger operations will continue, the move raises questions over the future of the charging business.
The entire public policy unit will also be disbanded following the departure of its leader, Rohan Patel, in the middle of April.
“Hopefully these actions are making it clear that we need to be absolutely hard core about headcount and cost reduction,” Musk wrote in the memo, which was first reported by The Information. “While some execstaff are taking this seriously, most are not yet doing so.”
Any manager “who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test” should resign, he added.
Tesla shares, which fell 5.5 per cent on Tuesday, were down another 2.6 per cent in pre-market trading at $178.53 on Wednesday.
Tesla did not respond to a request for comment.
[article continued]
The latest dismissals at the company come after Musk announced last month that the carmaker would cut “more than 10 per cent” of its total workforce, more than 14,000 jobs, in order to be “lean, innovative and hungry”.
The urgency of the shift was underlined by Tesla reporting a decline of almost 10 per cent in revenues in the first quarter of this year, its first year-on-year quarterly drop since the start of 2020. The share price has more than halved from its November 2021 peak of just under $410 a share.
The decision took staff by surprise. Will Jameson, who worked in the Tesla supercharger team, wrote on X that Musk “has let our entire charging org go”. Another employee of that division, George Bahadue, posted on LinkedIn confirming he had been let go.
He added: “What this means for the charging network, [North American Charging Standard] NACS, and all the exciting work we were doing across the industry, I don't yet know. What a wild ride it has been.”
When Jameson was asked by a reader on X why the entire division had been let go, he replied “your guess is as good as mine”.
Musk said in the memo that superchargers sites under construction would be finished and “some” new locations would be constructed.
The surprise move comes despite Tesla having built the dominant EV charging network with 50,000 sites globally and 15,000 in North America. Recently it has signed contracts with several rivals, including Ford, General Motors and Rivian, to use its NACS charging standard.
Models from other carmakers will be able to use its branded charging stations, potentially bringing Tesla a significant revenue stream, as well as establishing it as the de facto industry standard.
Tinucci, Ho and Patel are not the only long-standing Musk lieutenants to leave this year. Drew Baglino, senior vice-president leading Tesla's engineering and technology development for batteries, motors and energy products, resigned in April and Martin Viecha, its head of investor relations, said he would step down on the company's first-quarter earnings call last week.
In a post on X, Musk said the carmaker would continue to grow its supercharger network “at a slower pace for new locations”.
“More focus on 100 per cent uptime and expansion of existing locations,” he wrote.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I dont know much about much but firing the supercharger dept seems short sighted when the gov is trying to build a charging network
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Supercharger network is probably the main reason to buy a Tesla over other electric cars, not sure what their thinking is here
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
didn't it become a standard? can anyone make them? or is it still only tesla. Is there new development that needs to be done for that team?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
The connecter is becoming standard now but Teslas get a cheaper energy price at them I think. A load of them stopped working during cold snaps over winter so there's still some development needed
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Elon r dumb
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
This dumb butt neighbor could have used his X money to lobby congress to grant Tesla a fat butt contract, similar to AT&T with laying down fiber optics.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Right?? Either electric is actually a nonstarter or dude fumbled the bag
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Because it's kinda dumb to compete directly against government? Maybe he's betting that Tesla won't get those gubmint subsidies because he let the heckin chuds loose on Twitter. I'm not sure how the supercharger network really works, so
. If there's charging stations already at stores and gas stations for the EV dweebs, then why bother building a new one?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Since the 80s, everything is privatized, the government doesn't actually do anything, it just writes fat checks to private companies. You're not competing with the government, you're getting paid a cost+ contract to deliver some half assed unmaintainable shit.
It's baffling because SpaceX knows how to cash in on this action, so why not Tesla with their charger network. I don't get it, but maybe Musky knows something we don't.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
He probably realizes country
wide fast charging that's utilized in any meaningful fashion 
would 
collapse the grid lmfao
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yeah I read an article about how in Canada the government had to quietly back down from their "all electric by 2035" plans because the grid couldn't handle it on top of the projected demand from existing uses. I doubt the US is that much better off in that regard.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I loathe simplistic explanations like "because he is a dumbfrick", but I really can't find another one. I think he acted rashly after not getting his 55 billion dollar option.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Superchargers were supposed to be the charging grid as far as I understood it, that was the government program
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Hes gone on record saying that the white house snubbed tesla and jerked off other major car companies for their contributions to the electric game (lol), so hes not really wrong in thinking he wont get that contract.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
maybe he's replacing them with AI cyborgs?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Sorry carcels, rocketchads need more funding
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
hmm
Buy?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Literally cannot go tits up
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
I bought a bunch of Chargepoint years back, thinking ev would go up.
It didn't.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Elon does this all the time. He purges then rehires. It's a smart strategy, because it makes proles Seeth
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Tesla have had years to improve their build quality and servicing while they have a massive technology advantage and don't appear to have made any progress based on the Cybertruck launch. The traditional manufacturers and the Chinese are now catching up to them on range and price so I don't see Tesla maintaining anything close to their current market share in the coming years
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Unironically I feel like Elon spends too much time being a chud on Twitter and he kinda lost the plot.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
EU is enforcing a worse universal standard charger, so not much point in putting too many resources into their own charging network.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
I remember when this meant twitter was finished
That being said people are waking up to the fact EV tech isn't ready yet, and the industry is starting to lag.
Teslas are fun cars but when Avis gave me one and it turned a 4 hour drive into a nearly 6 hour drive I knew I wouldn't be buying one anytime soon. (And in Teslas defense i could have charged it less but why would I want to show up to my hotel with only 6% battery left. The hotel didn't have a charger sadly)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Twitter kind of is finished tho? Last I saw they were still down 50% revenue compared to before the takeover. He cut a lot of costs by firing everyone except
but his investors are gonna be pissed they were tricked into buying a shitty, low-cost, low-growth fringe discussion board for furries and journos.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
They're still operating though, and with less operating costs than before. Not sure if that makes up for the loss in advertisers but we'll see how they do when election season really ramps up, twitter is
Either way it's not losing enough for Elon to jump ship
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Imo it was the switch to X that made it a flop. Elon has this really weird aesthetic that literally only appeals to immigrants from thirdie countries (like himself
) that completely upended Twitter's shit and will reduce it from the mainstream. Instead of trying to steer a sinking ship towards help he decided to throw out half the ship, yell frick you to any would be rescuers, and paint it black
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
100% agree, calling it x was an neurodivergent move. Luckily no one fricking cares and still calls twitter
What the frick does he expect a tweet to be called? A Xeet? It's dumb which is why only journ*lists say X (formally known as Twitter)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Seems like there's not much of a point to keep it around. There's some new charging standard that you can use an adapter with the current Tesla's, and most of the network has already been built out so you can just subcontract maintenance.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Should I wait to buy a M3P?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Oh, you "use arch BTW." Do you expect a Reddit gold? Naw, I ain't no kind stranger. If you brag about your operating system online, then I can't even imagine how much of an butthole you are in real life. Great, you know how to read a fricking manual, and you know basic English. Jesus fricking Christ, you arch-kiddies are so toxic saying "I use Arch BTW" as if it's tough to install. Oh wow you're typing simple commands into a fricking tty. You do realize that Arch Linux is just a binary distro, that uses systemD (a shitty init system for n00bs). The Arch Linux community is full of edgy 15 year olds who act like they're superior. If you actually want to learn the inner workings of Linux, you should use Gentoo. Gentoo is a source based distro with OpenRC (an actually decent init system), that is actually hard to install. There is no manual for Gentoo, so you actually have to use critical thinking skills instead of copying and pasting commands into a tty. For Gentoo you have to fine tune the system to your exact hardware instead of just running "pacstrap" like a n00b on an archiso. It takes a long time to install Gentoo. It took an entire decade to compile the kernel from a stage 1 tarball onto my IBM Thinkpad 69420 (bought from my local used-thinkpad-store for 10 cents) with and the Core i-21 ultra-supreme extra-spicy CPU literally turned into ionized plasma and burnt my entire neighboorhood to the ground and the kernel took an entire decade to compile. After that I had to manually write the wifi-driver in ed ( a good text editor ) and compile them with -O7 gcc compiling flags. After the entire installaton I booted up the Gentoo installation and it used an entire 1 kilobyte less of RAM than Arch Linux. Arch-kiddies like you wouldn't have the patience to compile Gentoo. The Gentoo community is very nice and humble and doesn't brag about their OS (unlike you elitist buttholes). So instead of saying "I use Arch BTW", just shut the frick up!!!
Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1cgq5j6/elon_musk_goes_absolutely_hard_core_in_another/?sort=controversial:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40209382:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40214619:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40211027:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40222501:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://old.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1cgmcmt/tesla_conducting_more_layoffs_including_entire/?sort=controversial:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://old.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1cgta3a/musk_lays_off_tesla_senior_executives_and_entire/?sort=controversial:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://old.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1cgt3v8/musk_lays_off_tesla_senior_executives/?sort=controversial:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://old.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1cdsie7/tesla_lays_off_more_than_3300_california_workers/?sort=controversial:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1cgvu6r/tesla_to_lay_off_everyone_working_on/?sort=controversial:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context