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Why was gnome ever the default on major Linux distros? It seems like there's literally always a strictly better option no matter your use case.
!codecels footstrags explain yourselves
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GTK was made for GIMP (It's actually the GIMP ToolKit) and was used as the building blocks for GNOME because Qt was originally "non-free" even though it ran on many Unixies.
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GTK may have started with gnome, but now it runs on all DEs. So why use gnome in $CURRENT_YEAR?
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I mean it's more of a paper cuts situation so GNOME's inertia still generally wins out, but lots of people aren't using GNOME in
$CURRENT_YEAR- like Katser said SteamOS uses KDE which has a huge user base and Pop_OS! is making their own Rust DE https://blog.system76.com/post/cosmic-the-road-to-alpha , they did actual work with GNOME's code too so that's an actual loss because the GNOME devs are such bellends.It's a shame though I legitimately enjoy the GNOME UX and design language, I the devs are just massive dickheads.
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no freedom
without rhel genocide. 
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FOSStards calling for RH genocide are like EUcels saying Death to America.
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Half the linux stack that makes a functional computer would stop working immediately lol.
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Unironically no one on RH deserves to make a living off their code since their work is made off the backs of FOSStards that didn't get compensated by RH for their code to begin with. It's a hypocritical position that goes against the spirit of FOSS which orgs like SUSE have pointed out.
No sense in supporting RH trying to Jew every dollar they can when they were perfectly fine beforehand.
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Red Hat writes millions of lines of code and maintains many essential packages.
They helped make the Linux kernel an ecosystem at all by contributing many lines of code in early days, you can audit the git history yourself or see the many articles showing how they rank in the top five contributors of the kernel even today.
The "Spirit of FOSS" is to release your source code for use by anyone for any purpose, which includes making money on it. Stallman is usually made out to be some sort of radical leftist caricature but is adamant you can and should make money on FOSS selling support for other services:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html
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Doesn't matter what they've done, their attempt at cutting people off their source code without payments is against the spirit of FOSS without a doubt.
I don't give af if RedHat goes under, their blatant attempts at Jewing their userbase should be looked down upon, not defended. No one should how hard those codecels worked anyways.
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All of their source code is available (including liberally licensed code they aren't required to release), the only thing that changed is they no longer offer an exact 1:1 packaged version of the code.
How were the clones "in the spirit of FOSS"? They take the code RHEL works on up to packaging and then undercuts them on pricing. How was that going to be sustainable?
I also don't get the use case of "I HAVE to have bug-for-bug compatibility for RHEL for my key business application" but also "I cannot afford to pay for RHEL."
I suggest you listen to some actual reporting and not a bunch of 4chan and reddit trolls https://linuxunplugged.com/517
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Based FOSS enjoyer BTFOs hoardercel
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Okay, do you hate disabled people? Do you hate people who are not neurodivergent? You know, the world is full of neurotypicals who love to use computers. I'm not sure what world you're living in but i mean, at red hat we support all sorts of customers with all sorts of needs What if you're playing openttd from an airplane and don't have our software override installed? The towns are going to get mad at you and you're going to cause a giant scene on the plane! Listen to me you little neckbeard, system V unix people and suckless people are a bunch of libertarian holier-than-thou nerds who have no grasp on reality. They don't talk to people outside of IRC. They still use mailing lists as their main form of communication! I mean, what world are you living in people?! At red hat we make Linux for the desktop. We support user interfaces, graceful fallbacks, we develop advanced software solutions that the unix standards people call ugly. Well, if you think Red Hat's kernel patches are ugly, god knows what they'd say about Microsoft Windows! How about Apple?! You know you people say you want progress, but what do you really want? If you have a better solution for the mean towns in openTTD i mean, it's free software, people! You can make your own changes! You get it for free! Send me a patch, I love patches. I'd love to discuss the issue in a github thread, so I can say No, and then lock and limit conversation in the thread, and put it on github-drama. I love getting downboated! I'm Lennart Poettering and I love getting downboated!!!one!1! I'm not done. We make software for real people. Do you know that I've never used fluxbox? That's right. I've never honestly used fluxbox by myself. If you alternate window manager people want to come up to me, and say fluxbox is more convenient, i mean, i'm all ears people. I'm listening. Why does fluxbox exist? Why do we have afterstep? Dear god... people still use stacking window managers? I'm sorry but, I use computers to get work done. My workstation is just a tool I use to implement the abstractions I've architected on whiteboards and IRC. I don't have time for making sure all tasks can be properly backgrounded and foregrounded without altering their program state, or reading the latest garbage that the X window people of vomited up on their way out of their latest homoerotic circlejerk. There are so much more important things to be done in computing like reaching more users, reaching the world, and opening up our ideas to people who don't use alternative window managers. Do you know what? I don't even know what window manager I use, and I don't care. And I'm not telling you what text editor I use because it doesn't matter. You people need to seriously focus on the real problems in our community, which is the discrimination that my software receives just because of who i am. Why do you hate systemd? why do you hate the convenience i've provided? My amazing contributions? Did you know that every other CVE that's released is related to systemd? Like, it's just software, people. And because my name is on it you need to hyperventilate and open up urgent security reports that have been there all along? It's not my fault that my software was the one to expose the problem. The problem is in the standard, we just implement the broken standard, and then break our contract with the standard when necessary. I don't give a flying deutschmark about about what's written in the standard, what I care about is what's in the Linux kernel. Real-world scenarios. It doesn't stop there. You people target me and incriminate me. You want to read how much 4chan-level trash is in my email inbox every day? Get a life. Move out of the basement. Start contributing if you really care that much. But jesus, just stop.... whatever this is
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Mommy is soooo proud of you, sweaty. Let's put this sperg out up on the fridge with all your other failures.
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Have s*x, suckless
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I used kde plasma because it was what was on my steam deck
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GNOME is pretty and intuitive.
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If you're an r-slured neurodivergent who shares the same brainlet workflow maybe. Normal people coming from Windows and Mac OS find KDE to be far more familiar. Nobody productive uses GNOME for its DE features.
GNOME wastes a ton of desktop space for no reason because it's trying to mimic tablets (it's a shitty ripoff of the terrible Windows 8 convergence concept) while being fairly useless for laptops/tablets because it drains battery like crazy. You also have way less functionality because the extensions that are supposed to make up for the lack of functionality break every other update. GNOME didn't even have thumbnails until recently, and other basic features like fractional scaling or HDR are utter garbage/non-existent.
tl;dr: GNOME sucks peepee and the devs continue to run it into the ground.
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KDE overwhelms new users with the Emacs of calendar software
GNOME Calendar does one thing and does it well
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It's prettier and more intuitive than most tiling WMs, XFCE and LXDE, but it's not the prettiest nor most intuitive. If you want a mac-style desktop (which I think is what Gnome is trying to emulate), then Pantheon, Deepin or Budgie seem like better choices.
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Gnome is uniquely elegant. FOSS developers consistently have the misconception that more configuration options = better and end up with "text editors" that can play Tetris. Gnome knows what it wants to be and consistently exposes only basic, relevant items and promotes an ecosystem of apps that do the same.
The starkest example is the gnome calendar vs KDE's calendar/contact/task manager/mail app. KDE probably made something that works great for people with niche requirements, but to normies, it looks like a scary clusterfrick. Meanwhile, Gnome's calendar app opens a simple calendar where the full breadth of functionality can be understood immediately
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Sure, but KDE isn't meant to be the easy-to-use option: it's for power users who want a shiny interface. This is elementaryOS' calendar:
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pantheon is fine for people who really want gnome 2 back, but gnome 3 has a nicer ux and is sleeker. it's the best choice for people that aren't going to learn how to use a tiling wm
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There are no graphical issues with Wayland. Wayland is ready. Switching all new major distro releases to Wayland was a good decision.
Name one issue with Wayland. That issue is irrelevant and only happens under rare conditions.
Name another issue with Wayland. This only happens because you are trying to do something you shouldn't be doing.
X11 has too many features, whereas Wayland is opinionated that's why it's good.
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so I see you're running GNOME
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Imagine using GNOME in 2011+13
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Why yes, I enjoy using a workflow that only makes sense to a random group of neurodivergents who like the idea of a tablet interface on a regular desktop, how did you know I was a GNOME user?
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What's insecure about X11 exactly?
In any case, GNOME used to be really good, they just started fricking up with GNOME 3 and never managed to unfrick it in the decade following.
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Windows in X11 can basically do whatever they want to other windows, from key logging to injecting their own inputs.
Fine for a UNIX workstation that was running first party software stacks, not ideal in the modern world of installing third party applications.
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Format C:
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