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US to Resume Trump-Era Tariffs on Graphics Cards Assembled in China
The tariffs add a 25% duty on graphics cards, motherboards, and desktop PC cases.
PC builders, beware: The Biden administration is preparing to resume tariffs on graphics cards and motherboards assembled in China.
Over the past year, the US Trade Representative (USTR) has delayed restoring the Trump-era tariffs, which added a 25% duty on affected Chinese goods. The goal was to gather feedback from the industry and consider modifications as trade associations lobbied the White House to end the tariffs, citing the costs.
But on Wednesday, the USTR issued a notice, saying it had recommended to the White House that the “tariffs on covered products be maintained.” On Thursday, a spokesperson for USTR then told PCMag: “We are maintaining tariffs on products currently subject to the action, including the two tariffs you've inquired about.”
Those tariffs use the codes 8473.30.1180 and 8473.30.5100 and cover graphics cards, motherboards, and desktop PC cases. Other components previously covered under the Trump-era tariffs include trackpad units valued at over $100 and power supply units that output more than 500 watts.
The Consumer Technology Association had pushed the White House to end the tariffs, but CTA VP of International Affairs Ed Brzytwa tells PCMag, "They're not getting rid of anything. There are only tariff increases."
So far, the USTR hasn't officially issued a federal notice to continue the Trump-era tariffs or said what date they'll resume. But the White House already announced it's preparing to increase tariffs on select Chinese manufactured goods, including semiconductors, lithium-ion EV batteries, and electric vehicles, in some cases to as high as 100%
Brzytwa adds that the US is signaling it'll continue protectionist trade policies against China, but at the cost of rising consumer prices. “It seems like there's a competition between the Republican Party and Democratic Party on who can be tougher on China, and who can be more protectionist,” he said.
The tariffs are designed to punish China for unfair trade policies and alleged intellectual property theft. But in late 2021, several tech companies—including Nvidia, HP, and Zotac—urged the US to exclude their products from Trump-era tariffs, citing the lack of electronics manufacturing outside of China.
“Efforts to create new capacity in countries that presently do not manufacture such products (such as the US and Vietnam) were unsuccessful and were severely hampered by the fallout from COVID-19,” Nvidia said at the time.
Meanwhile, Zotac told the USTR: "China remains...the major manufacturing base of video graphics cards and personal computers in the industry. The major reason is due to the upstream supply chain remaining mostly in China."
!g*mers prepare yo bussies.
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No shit that's what the tariffs are designed to rectify r-slurs
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They can't even bring it all back to the US because the companies have to waste so much money on DEI moneysinks, it's just so much cheaper to import white people to work in Asia than it is to pay for thousands of women and BIPOCs.
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Are you trying to claim the people who make graphics grads arrest diverse? Almost none of them are white.
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Asians are white.
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Vewy twue and a most honaburu
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Even if that was true there are a bunch of other Allied countries wher they could do it in.
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TSMC had the right idea.
Chink menial workers, Jap/Gook/Mayo managers whipping the chinks.
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So much this
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That's the point of the tariffs, to subsidize BIPOCs and cute twinks in american tech
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Oh great, another r-slur.
(they'd subsidize it to be built elsewhere, r-slur. It's for the tax revenue).
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Building elsewhere is probably fine to them as long as it's not China
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Tariffs are designed for generating more tax revenue from local consumers (you). The other shit is window dressing.
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Not when they're applied to specific countries lmao
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zoz
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yes because welfare for TSMC and Nvidia to make it here for 2x the cost is superior to just buying them and making your own great industries
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So let me get this straight: Biden's economic policy was to let China frick burgers for the past 4 years, and now they're trying to reverse that at the last minute because Trump is campaigning on it?
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Americans have a gold fish memory
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This is why even the founding fathers, radical proponents (for their time) of Democracy, knew to strictly limit who was allowed to vote.
Rentcels get no say.
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I think you are forgetting another demo in the "no say" camp
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Lmao
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Huh? Biden let Trump's tariffs remain in place as soon as he rose to power.
I think you're r-slurred.
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This epitomizes every policy of Biden admin. Energy, border, you name it. Just trying to change course for show then will resume if reelected.
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It is pretty funny they left out Biden's name and instead just said "US" but made sure to have Trump's name in the title
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They targeted g*mers...
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Well yeah, thats the point of tarrifs. Make foreign products more expensive to decrease their competitive advantage over domestically produced products that cost more.
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No, r-slur. It's for tax revenue.
And none of that other nonsense happens if the other country imposes a tariff on our goods. You people are dumb dumb dumb.
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The entire point of these tariffs is to try to nudge companies away from basing all their operations in China because doing so is bad for the US in terms of national security. We don't want our supply of high-performance computer chips to get cut off if China decides to, which they can on a whim. ("nooo it would wreck their economy too" you realize the CCP isn't actually in power by free and fair elections, right? they'll just make their populace suffer it doesn't matter)
If China enacts counter-tariffs that doesn't actually hinder the true purpose of these tariffs since it would only further decouple our economies.
Some tariffs are designed to basically subsidize local producers but these aren't - if they were, they'd apply more broadly, and not JUST to China. The tariffs can be avoided by, for example, moving your factory to Vietnam. And arguing that they're actually just to shore up tax revenue might be the most r-slurred take. Like you're literally more r-slurred than the mass of redditors linked to in OP, which is ngl impressive.
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My negro, their tariffs cancel out the advantage we'd get. Local consumers are left worse off. Where's this extra magic money for your magic factory outside of China going to come from?
I know how industrial policy works with tariffs, but it doesn't play out how you think it does. If it's about transferring production centers from China, they'll do it for subsidies (but that'll cost a shit ton because the US has r-slurred laws). So, production will go from China to not-US, and that's still a maybe because it depends on how high the tariff is. What's the point, from the US consumer's perspective after all is said and done?
(It's for tax revenue, you dingus. It also gets the economically ignorant really excited about dumb shit they make up to justify another tax on their own wealth).
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The advantage isn't straight money. Obviously China will counter with its own tariffs on US goods. For once this is literally not about money - which is why all the industry spokespeople are screaming against it.
It's about disentangling China from the US supply chain of advanced electronics. It's not really about moving it back to the US specifically because the US isn't concerned about the rest of the world going to war against us, just China and possibly Russia and their close allies. Subsidies are obviously another option but (a) we'd have to print even more truckloads of money and (b) subsidies only make sense for moving production to the US, not for moving production to a third country that is neither the US nor China.
Not every single economic policy is to directly benefit the US consumer. This is a great example of one that isn't.
okay bb pls show total US tax revenue from personal and corporate income taxes and FICA taxes and compare to what this tariff would raise thx bb
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I thought there was a whole thing about we had to make the chip manufacturesr leave china and taiwan and shti and come home?
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Brazil tier r-sluration
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Surely this will bring manufacturing back
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Attacking G*mers with a G*mer Tax, once again.
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Good. Less oriental shit the better
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