what is dear moon?
Dear moon is a mission that was set to take 11 people to orbit the moon on SpaceX's Starship. It is fully funded by Yusaku Maezawa, a crazy Japanese billionaire who has previously visited the ISS, and he is taking 10 "communicators" with him. The "communicators" had to post videos justifying why they should be chosen in a public competition to be selected personally by Maezawa. The end result was a group of humanity's finest with everything from Kpop stars to youtubers or turbo woke writers . This is an unironic serious project, Elon Musk has talked about it and there were actual plans.
Here's the full crew:
Yusaku Maezawa
- Commander, crazy billionaire
Steve Aoki
- DJ
Tim Dodd
- YouTuber
Yemi A.D
- Dancer & grifter or something idk
Rhiannon Adam
- queer Irish woke writer & serial tweeter
Karim Iliya
- Unknown photographer
Brendan Hall
- Unknown filmmaker
Dev Joshi
- Bollywood actor
Choi Seung-hyun
- kpoop
Unfortunately for them (but luckily for God and any Aliens that would be forced to see them) the mission has just been cancelled. The original timeline was to launch in late 2023 but realistically there is no way for it to launch before 2028 . The official reason for the cancellation is due to the delays and uncertainty. 2023 was never a realistic target in the first place and delays are common in aerospace projects so chances are it might have more to do with him losing half his net-worth over the last year
Anyways, no matter the reason most of these "communicators" are left in shambles as their spaceflight dream is crushed from one second to the other. Maezawa didn't event bother to let them know before cancelling publicly in a tweet lmao
it's over
Tim Dodd
Tim Dodd, the everyday astronaut, commonly referred to as the everyday estronaut is probably one of the few with a genuine passion for space. He makes generally high quality videos on decently advanced rocketry stuff and is actually pretty cool. During his livestream of the first starship testflight he shouted "I'M GOING TO RIDE THAT THING!" which we now know he never will. Makes me kind of sad to see tbh
Tim then posted this to twitter
And just like that, the dreams of my crew are over.
I have such mixed emotions about dearMoon's cancellation. Of course I'm extremely disappointed, having dreamt about this mission since I first heard about it in 2018 and even more for the last 3 years since the selection process started. I slowly allowed myself to envision a trip to the Moon one little bit by little bit. On the other hand, I have guilt about being upset about a gift that was retracted. A part of me doesn't feel I'm entitled to grieve since I wasn't entitled to this mission in the first place. But the reality is, I'll need to allow myself to grieve this loss as it became a big part of my life, my dreams, and my visions.
Going to space has never been a thing I've actively pursued in general. It's not a goal of Everyday Astronaut. It was simply a cherry on top. Granted, a HUGE cherry, but I'll be just fine without this mission. I'm extremely fortunate to have the life and the career I have and this mission's cancellation changes none of that. In fact, I've gained new friends, had new adventures and learned more about myself in the last three years because of dearMoon. Unfortunately, I can't speak for everyone on the crew who all have different emotions, consequences and realities of this cancellation. For those who this affects the most, my heart goes out to them.
The one thing I have a hard time reconciling is the timeline. Had I known this could have ended within a year and a half of it being publicly announced, I would've never agreed to it. We had no prior knowledge of this possibility. I voiced my opinions, even before the announcement, that it was improbable for dearMoon to happen in the next few years.
I still firmly believe that, within my lifetime, we will see missions like this happen, and while I will never be the first to do such a mission, it brings me great joy to know the future is bright and exciting. And I'm proud to be able to continue to cheer those on who will do these exciting firsts! I'll still be here to help explain rocket science to anyone who will listen to me babble on about spaceflight.
In 2018 I started looking at the Moon and imagining artists going around it, then as the selection process narrowed, I allowed myself to imagine going around it. But unfortunately now every time I look at the Moon, it's a painful reminder of dreams lost. But I will continue on as I always have, one giddy rocket nerd who's here to witness history, absorb as much knowledge as I can, and break down what I learn for my fellow everyday person.
I love you all, thank you for the ongoing support and encouragement at this time.
Rhiannon Adam (histrionic foid)
This is the most insane, narcissistic & histrionic foid I have ever seen. Every single tweet in her 30 (that's right) long chain is absolutely deranged. It's hard to just pick a few but here are some highlights. Her timeline is also filled to the brim sneeding about this. https://x.com/blackbirdsfly/status/1796883320577376406
As a queer person too, it has taken a lifetime of unlearning to believe that I could be deserving, and in an instant, I have retraced 30 years. This is also deeply ironic considering today is day 1 of pride month.
NOOO NOT DURING PRIDE MONTH
A couple of days ago, I shared an image of Gaza. Or rather a pair of images. The first, in September 2023, and then later in October 2023. Side by side, they showed a bird eye view of Gaza viewed from space. The first, light filled, glowing.
This is just like getting bombed in Gaza
I truly believe that we need artists and writers in space, and that is a mission I will also be channeling my energy into. I believe it's worth fighting for. Heck, I even thought it was worth potentially dying for.
I guess they could be useful as ballast
This is why we need cultural critics to pay attention. Space becomes a dangerous place when a diversity of people and viewpoints are not represented. Diversity is our check and balance.
Less phallic rockets
And not so much as an offer of a therapy session to get over the shock. There has been no care at all towards the crew which is the most irresponsible and tone deaf approach I've ever witnessed. I'm shocked.
This mission was there to inspire world peace. Ironically, I write this as the world is falling to pieces. We needed our new earth rise image to unite us all. We needed a new perspective.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1d5fmi8/cancellation_of_the_dearmoon_project/
https://old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1d5sdvt/heres_why_a_japanese_billionaire_just_canceled/
https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1d5etik/dearmoon_has_officially_been_cancelled/
The reddit threads !spacechads
I'm not entirely convinced Starship will ever take off with humans on board. It has no escape system which could make it as dangerous or more dangerous than the Space Shuttle. Is more likely Dragon will be used to shuttle astronauts on orbit while Starship is used for cargo, at least for the 2020s and possibly 2030s. Still, having a reusable rocket that can carry 100 tons of cargo to LEO is incredibly useful.
!engineering
Nice resume @Platy
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We need to value human life less
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I would go with a 20% chance of catastrophic failure
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So true. Space is the final frontier, millions have died to explore every other frontier humanity has conquered, but now we are kitties who can't sacrifice less than 10 people to be able to say we set foot on Mars because “muh special valuable human life”
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The other frontiers had something to get, it's kind of r-slurred to sacrifice humans for an infinite empty void with 0.000000000001% inert worthless dust and rocks
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You could say the exact same thing about crossing the ocean.
Black lives matter.
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yeah crossing the ocean for literally the most bountiful and resource-rich fertile continent on the planet is just like going a million miles into space for sand and rocks
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See?
Black lives matter
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we're already on it dumbshit. the only stuff out there is space aids
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Whatever planet doesn't have your toxic attitude is an upgrade over our current one
Black lives matter
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Imagine SpaceX but with Soviet Russia levels of concern for the astronauts.
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Thats just SpaceX
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More Americans died in the space race than soviets did doe? Or even afterwards? The last time a cosmonaut died related to space flight (training, actual missions, etc) was in 1971.
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The soviet fired a rocket when there were still hundred of people on the pad so no way.
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More launches = more risk
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In just the space race the Russians had a lower fatality per launch to the US. Since then they've had even better odds. Remember that the US used and only used Soyuz rockets to send their astronauts to the ISS (among other things) until ~2021 after their space shuttle program crashed and burned (quite literally).
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count the dogs too
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T. White woman
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I hope all these artists and entertainers use starship for space tourism
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Odds of starship figuring out an escape system for their ballistic missile vs Boeing building more than 1 whatever it's called
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I will be in my late 30s towards the end of 2030s.
Joever for me
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Stfu zoomer
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it's a scam. there is this nerd youtuber called Thunderf00t and he goes in depth into all of Musk's claims about it. The things Musks says are comical, total nonsense pretty much it's all a giant scam
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He's full of shit as well like most deboooonkers
I wouldn't call it all a scam, the Falcon 9 is a fantastic rocket, the dragon capsule is reliable and shuttles astronauts to the ISS on a regular basis. The Falcon Heavy has delivered military satellites and will launch the Europa clipper probe. Starship was selected by NASA as a Lunar lander.
Yeah, it's very unlikely we'll have Mars Colonies this centuries like Musk says but the Starship project can definitely be useful for large cargo, larger space stations, lunar infrastructure and better probes. Human Missions to Mars and a Mars base are also in the realm of possibility of the coming decades.
SpaceX is not hyperloop or Boring company.
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Yea most debunkers are gay so I figured he prolly is too, but he points out countless techincal things that Musk is simply wrong about. Or blatantly lying. Even the cargo load he claims is like half or less of what is even possible. This is just regarding Starship btw not all of Spacex.
ok but those are blatant bullshit scams so just because SpaceX sent a couple rockets to space u think they are any better?
btw the Starship won't EVER take astronauts to the moon, even if it was selected by NASA. look at where the cabin is and how high up it is. They gonna use a giant ladder to get down or what?
Listen to Musks takes on escaping nuclear war by evacuating to Mars or the Moon. Guy is a moron
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100 launches (more than any country in the world) in a year including crewed launches and some of their rockets reaching 20 reuses is quite impressive and retropropulsive landing for reuse was seen as a pipedream in the 2000s, so yes, they're massively better and is not even close.
They're supposed to use an elevator platform but that's the smallest concern with Lunar starship, SpaceX themselves admitted the big issues are with in orbit fuel transfer. The idea is that the astronauts will go to the gateway platform on board the Orion capsule launch by the SLS, Starship is supposed to serve as a lander. I think Blue Origin's lander is more practical but because Starship is still in early stages I wont rule out their success.
Yes, but just because he's moron doesn't mean every thing he does is bad, that's just wingcuck mentality.
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an elevator? lol wonderful another giant point of failure. We'll see huh? I think everything Musk ever touched is gonna go up in flames but we'll see
also call me a conspiracy theorist but I dont know if I even believe in that retrolanding bullshit. looks staged to me. even if it wasn't how much money could it possibly save over just dumping the trash in the ocean?
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The first time they did it they didn't land on the droneship at the ocean, they landed at Kennedy Space Center. The droneships at the ocean were used to save fuel for larger cargos. Anyways, most Falcon 9 landings in the past months have been at a ground pad at Cape Canaveral or at Vandenberg, not at the ocean ships.
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Ok I'll eat my words that was pretty cool. But even still..... what benefit does that provide? Is it really cheaper than just dumping the crap in the ocean? And don't come at me with some bullshit environmental take either plz
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SmarterEveryDay did a good video on a similar topic to this with the NASA Artemis program. He's a savvy political communicator so doesn't attack anyone directly or single anyone out so you have to read between the lines. But I'm convinced SpaceX is just a massive grift to extract as much government contract money as possible from a government that doesn't have the strength it once did.
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It's cheaper because you can use the same first stage again. If you dump it into the Ocean you need to build another one. Imagine having to built a new plane for every single flight, that's why space travel is so expensive. The second stage is not reused and they have to build a new one for every flight.
The debate on reusability was related to whether it was worth the R&D. ULA did a study in the 2020s that retro-propulsive landing would be worth it if the booster could return at least 6 or 7 times I think? Now with Falcon 9 passing the 20 threshold it has probably paid off. Plus now competitors like Blue Origin, Terra, Rocket Lab and even China are developing these types of boosters. The chinese Long March 10 which will be used for Lunar missions is supposed to be the first of this kind.
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