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why tf does anyone actually use python

this shit sucks lmfao "dynamically typed" languages are for :!marseytrain:s & cuckolds.


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b-word what are you on?

dynamically typed languages make you infer meaning from context and also make you take responsibility for your decisions.

:marseytrain2: hate python even more than eye contact. why do you think they invented rust?

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Umm no actually I can assure you trans ideology doesn't abide by dynamic typing, where anything is what it wants to be arbitrarily with the labels society places on them being completely meaningless

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Dynamic typing is for queers and r-slurs who can't organize shit (academia strags). Strongly typed languages are the only reasonable ones


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:marseygeisha: looks like a woman, acts like a woman, is actually a thai ladyboy.

dynamic typing :marseygigachad: happily fricks, :marseypass: seethes.

python obviously has problems, but 99% of the hate is skill issues and autism.

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!codecels

"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses" :marseymonk:


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And the third type where people have holy flame wars over trivial differences :marseyakshually: in the language spec (Common Lisp vs scheme :marseypunching:)

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That's not true, there are like 15 companies that use Haskell

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And will any of them hire you?

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Academicels aren't people


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You just have to read 10 volumes (unfinished) to understand the greatness of my type theory.


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Because it does everything and has like 1 million libraries which are c under the hood. Programercels be seething over research chads

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Why not just use C

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Does C have publication ready graphing functions? Or advanced network analysis functions? If you are a lab who wants to turn the data they analyzed into w publication level graph would you: make an entirely new function in C over a series of months? Or just use existing python functions likely coded in C anyway? Again programmercels can't comprehend not everyone is making drivers or client facing programs.

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C doesn't even have an agreed upon way to safely handle "strings".


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Arrays of characters with a null value :marseybigbrain: nothing can go wrong chud

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Was just about to say this. Python is used for science research. We use it for analyzing global landsat data

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The problem is software "engineers" who use it to build large software systems. It's fine for scripting number crunching, but using it for anything more complicated is asking for trouble.

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Alot of python functions are fast c code but you can extend it for extensive data visualization and analysis quickly

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Hey now, some of us aren't really devs, and are actually r-slurred when it comes to CS.

Anyhowwwwwwww it saved me like, maybe weeks worth of work. Not saying other languages couldn't do this better, or just do it at all, but the fact that it's easy enough for me to comprehend is a selling point and the libraries for it are well supported.

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Exactly, you can just do python without knowing jack shit about it, and I also really like it for that reason.

Edit: to add some context, it really reminds me of the glory days of PHP where you could just hack together a shitty website. I don't know one person who was actually good at PHP, but somehow all the programmers I know made websites with it circa 2000 or whatever. It was the language for lazy people, and now that it's dead, we have python.

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It's okay for quick scripts that would be awkward to write as a bash script. But yeah it's way overused for larger stuff.

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if you're making something that's more than 100 lines this shit becomes unservicable. sure I'm drunk as shit but jugling tuples around is fricking r-slurred. god gave us structs for a reason. relying on fricking variable order when passing around a data structure is unfathomably r-slurred and anyone involved in it should be shot


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structs and classes are the same thing :marseymindblown:

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Structs are better because python syntax was designed by fruity strags. " Oh tee hee you can't use != Were a bunch of strags so we are going to make you put "not" and "self" everywhere"

C# is better in every possible metric I care about


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Oh tee hee you can't use !=

You overload __eq__ and __ne__

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>r-slurred snowflake methods that have __special_names__

You're not making me want python devs to commit suicide less.


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:marseyshy: if you were my Friend I'd let you touch my Private members

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I'm not your friend and python doesn't have keywords so I wouldn't be able to tell it's private without trying it :marseydisconcerting:


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Just make a class and don't give it methods? There's your struct. If you don't like tuples don't use them

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The syntax for making classes is somehow even more gay.

Shoutout to shit like default values fricking you if you make a dict or list or whatever :marseyxd:


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its easily the best scripting language, especially because theres literally a package for everything. just dont expect it to be performant unless youre using pandas/numpy for literally everything and learn how venv works

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its easily the best scripting language

Lua

especially because theres literally a package for everything

Only actual appeal


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Do you actually like Lua?

My friend grew up learning programming with Lua and I asked his opinion about it. Bro went scorched earth on the shit, I thought he'd have nostalgia for it but, no.


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It'd be pretty well perfect if it didn't start indexes at 1. I've embedded Lua into random shit before for fun :marseyexcited:

Ideally it'd be better featured, and have less shit syntax but considering that it's not used nearly as often it's not that bad.

I think it's mostly due to academicels being scared of it. It's still dynamically typed which is gay AF and there's the same issues python has

But Lua is Lua. Nobody tries to pretend it's le heckin future of cs, and they just embed it in Minecraft or a 3d printer or something


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Basically it's good at what.it does (embedded custom logic that's fast and expandable) while not being too feature heavy as a result of pandering to academicels

1 indexing is annoying, and so is the lack of classes or whatever

But it's not meant for that. I've got it running card logic in my card game so hypothetical future users can make their own cards easier :marseyexcited:

I'd kms if I had.to do anything super big with it, but there's no reason to and nobody's r-slurred enough to force it

Unlike with python where spergs made love to it and made all the libraries there


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To artificially pump up the numbers of foid devs.

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"bro just be pythonic"

lol no that's gay as frick

"bro just use spaces bro"

spaces are gay as frick and implicit scopes via spacing is ungodly r-slurred

The only reason to use this language is because spergs already made libs for the annoying shit.

Frick pythoncels. Academics and webshits should get the rope


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Skill issue

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It's for small :marseytiny4: children :marseykermit: who can't learn :marseybowing: c

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Quick and portable to Windows, Linux, Mac scripts

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javascript is a better language than python in literally every way

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js has improved a lot since python 2.7

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horrifying but probably accurate sentence


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Sad but true

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Because lots of other people use it

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Honestly, what do you think is better for a web API backend? Python is easy, I'm barely functional with it and can still program a backend. Doing the same shit in Java used to be an extremely high effort task in comparison, and that was a programming language I was actually good at.

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everything in java is high effort because its a corporate language. you can do 99% of web with nginx config and html files - if you want to write code for it just frickin use node cause it already infests your frontend. ruby is a pita to install anywhere, go tooling is just as gay as pythons, c/cpp are non=sequiturs, and its not like youre gonna use anything else. maybe .net, but at that point youre probably sold on blazor which makes it fullstack which is too much for just an api. fastapi/flask or even just pythons http are okay, but theyre not gonna be _fast_ fast.

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What's wrong with Go's tooling?


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I've posted my love for Go before but that's mainly as an ops guy.


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You'd have to pay me half a million dollars to willingly use Python.

I've been using it for the past couple years.

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>Dynamically typed

Just use type hints bro

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I've found that if you use type hints "data scientists" just get confused and think it's a different language.

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That's even more gay.

Type "hints" are massively homosexual. There shouldn't be "hints", it should be goddarn law. I shouldn't be able to assign an int to a string without the compiler pissing and pooping at me until I buck break it Into submission via casting or explicit conversion

Instead of how it is in python where it just goes ignored until you try to run the thing at glacial speeds

Anyone who supports dynamic typing is probably a :marseytrain:. "Bro I'll just assign myself as a girl tee hee :£"

Keep yourself safe


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If dynamic typing is trans coded why do they love rust :marseyshapiro:


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There's a hierarchy of :!marseytrain:s based entirely on autism blood content


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Its the best lang for me and to automate DSO and basically print money.

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DSO?


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Strag


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im a rich strag tho for little effort.

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Peepee sucking operator :marseysmug:


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Python is mostly useful for quick shit when I don't wanna try setting up a c++ dev environment (especially in windows), and I do what I can to optimize it but I don't need hyper efficiency just enough that what it's doing takes half a second instead of 10.

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Cause they're too homosexual for perl :cool:

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Format C:

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