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Entitled schizochad :marseyschizochad: Seeks a "gui solution" to install wireguard and create "an encrypted tunnel between my computer and the internet browser" to prevent hackers using Kali Linux from creating malicious office macros to steal his passwords, demands to speak to the "CEO of Fedora", then literally kills himself after tranime profile picture codejannies fail to provide the needful

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gui-instructions-installing-wireguard-on-silverblue/74713

liamdev: I need graphical user interace (GUI) instructions for installing Wireguard on Silverblue - Fedora 34. I'm visiting family at the moment and evidently they have Avast - which I do not want to use and I don't want the VPN that they have set up with the router to interfere with mine.

I've read the 1981 internet protocol that was published by DoD. I'm so immeasurably frustrated that something like an encrypted tunnel from end point to end point is such a complicated issue.

The articles on Fedora Magazine are not sufficient for a beginner and only show command line instructions and the only video on YouTube that's worth watching is chaotic with a guy typing a millions commands plus he's using Ubuntu anyways. GUI instrucitons please.

computersavvy: If they are already using a vpn why add another layer. Since you are just visiting you can temporarily disable your own vpn, use the one they already have configured at router level and go with it.

liamdev: With all due respect, I was looking for GUI instructions on how to set up the Wireguard VPN on Fedora Silverblue, not advice on what I should be doing with a presumption that I had one set up before.

liamdev: I haven't come across anyone that has sucessfully set up a VPN on a YouTube tutorial or anything else via GUI. VPN's should be simple, point and click free solutions to protect your identity and information from being transmitted widely over the internet. There's literally no point in moving forward with any future releases of any distribution if a GUI VPN hasn't been developed.

Regarding a server - i don't have a personal VPN server - that's what WireGuard is supposed to be ? WireGuard is supposed to be both the VPN Server and the VPN Client for someone that has neither right now.

computersavvy: I think you are misinterpreting what a vpn is & does.

It securely connects you via a tunnel from one point to another, the remote being a vpn server and may be free, paid, or company owned.

liamdev: Thanks for the info. My use case is this - I want to be able to install a VPN so that anything I search for on the internet is encrypted. I want an encrypted tunnel between my computer and the internet browser.

The reality is, there are (from what I see) 1.5 million man pages that have 10,000 functions. In other words, there's 150 ways to do the same thing. The system is so broken that I'm shocked the DoD has even let it carry on the way that it has.

From what I understand, Gnome Box VM's don't even hide your physical IP address or MAC address or anything really? So if someone wanted to use the hacking cowtools that are in Linux - well there wouldn't be much stopping them from getting literally all of my passwords and information…

So if someone wanted to use the hacking cowtools that are in Linux - well there wouldn't be much stopping them from getting literally all of my passwords and information…

augenauf: interesting, I would be curious to learn how to do that, just for research purposes. could you share any insights?

liamdev: Gothca - thanks, Sure thing, I'll map them out. Here's how you:

Get Kali Linux -

Fingerprint Web Apps & Servers for Better Recon [Tutorial]

Clear the Logs & History on Linux Systems to Delete All Traces You Were There [Tutorial]

Haunt a Computer Using SSH [Tutorial]

How Hackers Can Find Hidden Wi-Fi Networks & Their Names

Generate Crackable Handshakes with the ESP8266 [Tutorial]

Watch Hackers Craft Malicious Office Macros (ft. Kilian from SecurityFWD)

I mean just follow that channel in general. Then look at:

How to HACK a password // password cracking with Kali Linux and HashCat - how to HACK a password // password cracking with Kali Linux and HashCat

You get the point.

So, regarding the VPN and just general freedom to have privacy haha… I'll check out the blog post again. I don't understand how it's so easy to find out how to track and airplane from a video tutorial but something as basic as a VPN seems to have so many different components to the workload that could break at any moment.

liamdev: With all due respect, it's none of your business why I don't just turn it off at the Router level. I genuinely mean that as well - I don't mean to disrespect you, but posting in a public forum why I don't do that shouldn't even be a consideration as a response.

I'm gathering that no one has developed a GUI to use this Wireguard VPN. I clicked through the link that you sent, and the link that was in there and the link in that one too. Thanks for the effort but it didn't provide an actual GUI answer.

I'm gathering that no one has developed a GUI to use this Wireguard VPN.

augenauf: It's integrated in Network Manager in Gnome, consider searching the internet.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NetworkManager#VPN_support

liamdev: okay so there's no way to easily install the WireGuard VPN via a GUI. The strategy here is to loop people in w/ Lenovo, offer them "free" everything that's not really free, offer tons of documentation to the point where people either give up or - the optimal outcome - they hire a company like Red Hat - that's using non-profits as a tax write off - or someone else that's anonymous but the risk in the anonymous folks is that they could be hackers ha.

If there was a "CEO" of Fedora, who would that be? Who is in charge of operations? Who is in charge with the Lenovo relationship? Who is in charge with the financial side is probably the most important in this question. I don't want to reach out to an anonymous profile and this VPN is arguably one of the most critical elements of the research I'm doing. If this is seriously the end result - the messages on these threads and recommendations - then there is a massive problem that needs to be addressed.

augenauf: So, you tried to set up the wireguard between your Fedora Workstation and your EC2 instance?

Where are you stuck? What are the error messages? Any logs?

liamdev: No, I'm hopeful you can help me find some way to connect directly with the Fedora leadership team. What is the best route? I believe whoever would be equivalent to the CFO would be the most appropriate.

augenauf: So, I am going to close the topic if you are not interested in technical support solving your problem. You're wasting your time and our time by discussing useless stuff. Had you ever posted a link to the guide you are trying to follow, the commands you had executed, the conf files you used, and error messages or log files that were generated, we could have long solved your problem. Instead …

As for the contact to Fedora Council and its Chair, I am sure you find that in Fedora Docs or by means of a search engine.

Do you actually call Jeff Bezos if your EC2 instance doesn't install an update?

I can only second @ilikelinux comment; get a professional IT consultant. He or she will setup wordpress and a store within a couple of days, including a wireguard connection for you to mess up the installation.

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https://www.mcgorray.com/obituaries/LIAM-J-BIRT?obId=27828780

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!schizomaxxxers press :f: to pay respects to our fallen king

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>read scary stuff about hackers :marseyschizowave:

>learn about VPN being the best defense, but don't really know how it works

>Try to configure wire guard - no idea what to put into all these text fields

>give up and open support ticket

>incorrectly formed question results in people not being able to hel.

>ragequit

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>try to do some shit on Linux that should be really simple

>search forums and the only solution is some obscure script that randomly breaks other shit

>ragequit

:#marseymanysuchcases:

>be me

>attempt to install qubes on my thinkpad a few days ago

>it's completely fricked, can't even boot into the installer

>give up and install Ubuntu LTS because I want something that just works

>don't even make it through the login screen before I get spammed with notifications about some kernel error

>idk what was broken and idc, if shit is broken out of the box I'm done with it so I wiped it again and installed fedora kinoite

>open up some minesweeper app that was part of the default install

>wayland bugs out, my cursor grows 10x in size

>give up, return to :chadstevejobs: iPuter

!schizomaxxxers !codecels

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Your fault for using ubuntu. Ubuntu is so bad lmao. !linuxchads its funny how people just get random unknown mystery errors the second they try to use linux. Like darn it sounds fun to have silly errors like that instead of just my cracked copy of 2012 word stop working

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What do you think about MINT Linux?

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All versions of linux are inexcusably broken and you linuxcels should be embarrassed of your operating system.

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Wincels stay seething at linuxchads.

:marseyjam:

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At least us wincels admit that our operating system is shit.

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:marseyconfused: Because it is shit.

Meanwhile, Linux is the best!

:marseyjam: !fosstards, @Unbroken cannot even.

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This is the average experience using any linux system.

If you think this is acceptable you are a stain on humanity.

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>podtard

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735307646EQGdURpZjlrSDg.webp

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If you watch whatever garbage is behind this awful thumbnail, all of your opinions are bad

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No such thing as mystery error in Linux. Learn hoe to understand error/ log file.

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Nah it can definitely happen. I've dealt with servers that just randomly lock up until you reset them out-of-band (like via ilo or similar). Nothing in any of the application or kernel logs, they just fricking freeze.

We wound up tracking it down to a bad NIC driver but there was really nothing in any logs that pointed us there, it was more of a "let's try uninstalling vaguely related shit until the server stops crashing".

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you need to understand people that use Linux have something wrong with them, that's why they are using Linux

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I still think Ubuntu is the best version for a lot of people.

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I hate Ubuntu its all the crust of Debian with Cannonical BS. Fedora or OpenSUSE for me. I think my next PC will be Kinotite

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My homelab runs ubuntu because proxmox needed an ethernet connection to do any networking shit and that was annoying so I just have a bunch of docker images behind caddy :marseyzoomer:


dude bussy lmao

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I gave up on OpenSUSE TW after finding out that packman will just be out of sync on some days and there's nothing I can do about it. Same with the YaST gui, I'm more comfortable using the terminal but like the whole "stable rolling release" concept it all just felt like a bait.

Fedora KDE has given me 0 troubles so far. It just works.

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Having an LTS and massive package repos are just really hard to beat.

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I would say distrobox but I guess thats not accessible tho Fedora + flatpak is never lacking in anything I need tho. For anyone whose a g*mer I would 100% recommend Fedora or an arch derivative over a debian one

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If they're a g*mer and likely using Nvidia I would 100% push them towards Pop_OS! Where Nvidia drivers are first class supported. Zero chance I'd recommend Arch or Fedora with all the kernel version churn.

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I have 0 issues with nvidia kernels that arent bugs with nvidia itself on fedora

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I use popos and it's really user friendly, to the point where I'm considering installing it on the new laptop for my parents

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BSD > Gentoo > Arch > Ubuntu.

And if you can't figure out Arch you shouldn't even be allowed to use a computer.

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Meme opinion. No one who seriously used BSD thinks it's a viable OS.

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A friend recommended me Mint to try and troubleshoot my PC when I was having windows issues. I guess it's built on top of Ubuntu, but so far it's been idiot proof (I haven't managed to break it)

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Mint is okay I just feel like the value add is a tad small compared to Ubuntu and they are getting increasingly hostile to Canonical over snaps and such.

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I wanted to be able to play vidya, thats why she recommended it. The included AMD drivers are nice for clueless people like me :marseygigaretard:

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AMD drivers have been in the mainline kernel for a while now thankfully. Nvidia is the out of tree one and can cause headaches.

>she

>:marseypenguin:

:marseytrans2: ?

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No its unironically one of 5 biofoids worldwide interested in linux

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Ubuntu has not been a good recommendation to anyone with a working brain for like 10 years.

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Disagree. The LTS support cycle is still unmatched, package repositories are huge, everything third party supports it and you don't have to faff with proprietary stuff like in Debian.

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It is crazy. It's one thing to say, my WiFi card doesn't have proper drivers, my NoVideo card doesn't play well with Wayland and multiple monitors, I can't play the gameslop I like playing because I don't mind spyware anticheat, my Bluetooth solution doesn't work, I need photoshop/excel for work to make money, etc.

It's always the generically omniscient "just started throwing errors and my machine crapped out" waving of the hand as if computers are still machines of the Eldritch gods we must pray to like in 1990.


Alright m8 it was just banter no need to write a short novel ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°) https://media.tenor.com/UJMVGyibznAAAAAx/halloween-dog.webp

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>be me

I found the issue. This user is r-slurred.

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:#marseyhesright:

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>use a windows computer like a normal person

>dont look at illegal shit :marseywink:

>just keep a hatchet nearby in case the computer goes full skynet, or the feds come knocking

Why are all you nerds making it so hard on yourself?

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I look at illegal shit :marseycocaine: and I'm fine on Windows.

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With 0 linux experience, I figured out Mint in less than an hour.

Been running it for half a year now and haven't found anything major that I cannot get working. Autocad and some music programs/hardware is the only thing not working.

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haven't found anything major that I cannot get working.

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Autocad and some music programs/hardware is the only thing not working.

:#chadcopecapy:

I started using Linux in 4th grade dual bootmaxxxing on my windows xp machine. I have yet to find a distro that doesn't get irrevocably fricked every six months to the point where it requires a reinstall

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What are you doing to the poor computer?

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:#rape:

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Sounds like a user issue :marseysurejan:

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#YearOfTheLinuxDesktop

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my cursor grows 10x in size

That's just a default KDE behavior if you shake your cursor lol.

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what did dmesg (kernel log) say?

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If you buy a brand new car from the dealership and barely make it around the block before the power steering stops working do you crawl under the hood with a socket wrench and some pb blaster? No u call a tow truck and send that piece of shit lemon back where it came from

!tradies back me up

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So what did dmesg say?

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You didn't buy a brand new car, you got a used car and installed a third party mod on it.

The guys making the third party mod have no idea what proprietary crap is coming out of the factory until someone tells them. If the first party manufacturer makes changes in a new revision of the car to the intake or something that leave no room for your aftermarket intercooler, then whose fault is it? The producers of the mod just published what works for them in the hopes that it it would help others, with the expectation being that you may need to tweak it yourself for different hardware.

So unless you bought a thinkpad with a linux sticker on it, there is no guarentee from anyone that it will work.There's no one who has looked at the system as a whole and given the thumbs up that all the parts work together.

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t. :#soysnootypefast:

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copie and anthony

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but u downloaded the car for free my dude

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I pride myself on being able to fix shit but no way I'm touching something when someone else will take responsibility and do it for free.

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the reason linux is such a goddarn mess is the same reason communism didn't work,

we just don't have the balls the cooperate to the degree necessary

:ma#rseysigh:

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Linux is for developing code to run on servers, literally nobody should be using it asnthe OS for their personal computer

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