That is the primary reason why the west does not want Russia to lose completely at once, because if Russia loses that badly at once they are sure to use nukes in a we die together pact.

Instead what the west wants is to weaken Russian enough from the inside over time that the Russian state implodes internally. Allowing for the blame for the Russian collapse to not fall unto the west as the only cause, thus far lowering the chances of getting nuked as an outside enemy.

This is the reason while the Ukrainian troops are no being supplied with enough technological advantages to defeat Russia unconditionally, they are still being provided with enough resources and intel to bomb out and destroy high value Russian resources while both the nation states are stuck in the meat grinder war.

Russia will not fail due to the current war however. Here are the reasons why:

1. Russia has enough poor people in neighboring countries to replace the population losses by taking in immigrants from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan. Even if Russia's population losses in the current war went as high as 10 million, they would be able to replace the entire population with immigration from Central Asia.

2. Russian trade cannot be destroyed in current century. The reason for this is simple, Russia has ever increasing trade with two major powers of the 21st century, India and China, which makes it impossible for the Russian economy to collapse no matter how many trade restrictions the west places upon it.

3. Russian military apparatus will not collapse. While all their old soviet stocks may get destroyed over time, the Russians reportedly are more than capable of making replacement amount of tanks now, along with being supplied with the requisite artillery shells by North Korea, and further able to acquire medical supplies from China or India. Working with a distributed military supply chain allows for Russia to be powerful enough to support itself in the long run.

Thus the West fails to destroy Russia demographically, technologically, and economically. Which makes Ukraine's war against Russia a forever war where Russia only loses if the home population of Russia tires enough of the war as to turn against the Russian government, the likelihood of which happening within the decade is very low.

The only winning moves the west has are

1. End the war while giving up half of Ukraine and taking over the other remaining half of Ukraine as part of the EU.

2. Keep supplying Ukraine with ever more advanced weapons systems every year to make up for military personnel losses, and to keep doing so as long as the Ukrainian spirit doesn't not break down.

The current strategy is 2) followed by 1) when the Ukrainian spirit finally breaks.

The downside for Russia:

1. If you think Europe is being overtaken by Islam right now, it is far worse for Russia. At current rates by 2030 14-15% of Russians are going to be Muslim as all of Russia's primary immigration sources are Islamic nation states. Taking into account how well accepting immigrants from the middle east has gone for the European Union, you can probably guess why this isn't good news for Russia.

In the medium term we can probably expect Russia to break apart internally as the Islamic population share actively works to take over the nation state from the Christian Russian population groups. We can look at on the ground animosity between white Russians and Central Asians in Russia to support this claim.

2. The Russian military is codependent on supplies from outside the country. This gives up on the sovereignty of Russia and leads to Russia having lesser control of its own destiny.

3. On the economic side of things. The Russian economy is not just integrated with the Eastern economies, it is fully dependent on the Eastern economies. Russia loses power as the eastern economies would all grow at rates greater than Russia, and the Russian populace and tech and raw materials are going to become cheap supplies for nation states like India and China.

In conclusion:

Russia will not lose the Ukraine war in the sense of not taking over 1/4th to half of Ukraine at least, but the victory is going to cost Russia its independence in every way that it matters. China and India own Russia now. North Korea is equal partners. That's where Russia is right now.

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The office of Colonel-General Syrskyi is compromised by foreign influence.

Documents & messages indicate the Ukrainian Commander in Chief’s office is manipulated into ignoring the civilian chain of command.

President Zelenskyy & Minister Umerov must investigate. pic.twitter.com/1cL6KzsGo4

— Sarah Ashton-Cirillo (@SarahAshtonLV) August 3, 2024

He says he wanted to stay in Russia and fight Putin. He is Russian citizen

Just to add some perspective for people that are not from Ukraine: we have 120 000 policemen, but most of them (if not all) are not being drafted due to their position and ties, as well as bribes. People that have salary of 40k hryvnas (~1000$ which is a lot for Ukraine) won't get drafted as well, because they can just pay up to some drafter (around 2000$ from what I've heard). While improving Ukraine is still a highly corrupted country and this is an issue that was ongoing from 1991.

Brah, I do have a salary of more than 40k and I can't escape draft. All I can do is sit in my place and don't go outside. You need much more to bribe someone.

Forcing men to do their traditional role is the same spirit as forcing women into their traditional role

Wow look an feminist at war

This is a common problem for Ukrainians abroad as well - no answer to the phone or email, can't show up without appointment, never available time for appointment.

Ukraine has been doing wonders on the battlefield, given the limitations of manpower. They will overcome this, 100%.

No they won't. Unfortunately lack of manpower is Ukraine's Achilles heel. The Russians know it and will exploit it. I wish it it wasn't.

I mean Ukraine is on the defensive, they've been smashing the russians at a 10:1, 20:1 ratio.

Ukraine has fewer troops, but that's not an issue when for every Ukranian, 20 russians fall.

It varies of course, it depends on what is happening on the battlfield, sometimes it's 5:1 sometimes 20:1 - but I don't think it's propaganda, Zelensky and the Ukranian officials have been consistent on this.

Even Zelenskyy is humble enough to not sell this bs of 20:1 jfl

Tons and tons of Ukrainians did volunteer for the first year or even year and a half of the war. The issue is every Ukrainian who wanted (and had the physical capability) to volunteer already has done so and is either on the front line, on rotation, wounded or dead.

Hang in there ukraine 🇺🇦

Rope is tightening

I hope that when this war is all said and done, that those who stayed to fight get lifelong care and support to help overcome the trauma that they've endured.

Ufff govs love used soldiers

One way or another, they're going to have to fight. They can either do it as free men, or they can do it as Russian slaves.

And those who have fled to western countries will get drafted by them when we inevitably get completely involved.

can he says the same about Syrian ?

Wawaviva

Redditors now accept that khohols lost 100000 soldiers in 2022 ? I been told that this is fake in 2022.

Time for mercenaries. Is black water still in business? I know the USA is thinking about how to get mercs into the flight.

They were in Ukraine for couple of months then decided they prefer warmer climate

But my fav comment is

they should lose their citizenship if they don't want to serve !

They don't allow them to renounce citizenship and leave…

And to not end on negative note

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1ei5uwg/us_sends_cuttingedge_aim9x_airtoair_missiles_for/

Khohols getting cutting edge aim 9x

The AIM-9L max range is stated as 18km while the AIM-9X with an improved motor and reduced drag manage 25 to 30km max range.

Ukrainian mig29 missile

R-27EM: up to 170 km (110 mi)

🇺🇦🇷🇺 Ukraine and Russia exchanged the bodies of the deceased.

250 Ukrainians and 38 Russian deceased soldiers were exchanged.

The ratio hints at real losses … pic.twitter.com/JmXKUSma2F

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 2, 2024

Why every time Ukraine gets more bodies back ?

That guy is Ukraine, Zelenskyy is nobody without him.

But now that Ukraine is taking hard peepee

He is ready to let Zelenskyy talk with Putin and break khohol condition

In Pokrovsk direction things look very shity for Ukraine

They managed to get town zhelanne getting into pincer without putting a fight and they losing an settlement in that direction every day

With loss of zhelanne Russian will go south to komysheivka this move would let Russian pull soldiers from other side of river and force Ukrainian lose their fortified position. This move will also shorten the front for Russian since it's easier to defend from inner circle than from

Outside one. So this will just create a lot more problems for Ukrainian.

Nobody expected that this summer Russia would seriously move to Pokrovsk and Ukrainian were just focusing in not letting Russian capture chesiv yar but they now don't give a shit about it

ISW is also on coping mode

Russian progress won't continue indefinitely

Like homosexual you were telling this during last days of avdiivka

Khohols fresher soldiers and prepared defence positions seems to be very fresh

Back to leader of khoholstan

Zelenskiy is pushing to convene the second summit before the US elections in November with Russia potentially present at the table. The efforts come as Ukraine and its western allies fret about Donald Trump's return as president amid growing fatigue and lack of major breakthroughs on the battlefield.

"The most important expectation for the second summit is for it to shape major prerequisites for stopping the hostilities," Yermak told Bloomberg in an interview from his office in Kyiv on Wednesday. "We need to end this war as soon as possible to get a just peace."

Yermak said the gathering will be held in a country from the so-called Global South, probably in the Middle East, in a show of the "world's unity" amid Russia's attempts to divide it.

So far, the signs are not promising. Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba during a visit in Beijing last month that the time was "not yet ripe" for peace talks to end the war with Russia.

Why they lying after that talk China banned selling its drones to khohols:

Big victory + Russia already told they ain't going to go to such peace talk and Saudis didn't gave permission for it

As Russia's assault stretches deep into its third year, some of Ukraine's international backers are growing concerned about just how much decision making is concentrated in the hands of 52-year-old Yermak, a one-time film producer, who has become the sole gatekeeper to the president with a direct say in everything from foreign policy to military planning.

"I'm not involved in every job, I'm only coordinating," Yermak said in an interview at his office in Kyiv on Wednesday. "Yes, I'm very proud that the president asks my opinion, but he asks for my opinion because I get results

Great result Ukraine is today more corrupt and weaker than in 2022

Ukraine is struggling to fend off a renewed Russian offensive and bracing for the next winter with its energy infrastructure in tatters, while the US election and the possibility of Donald Trump's return to the White House pose questions over how long Kyiv will be able to count on the support of its allies. The president himself is also vulnerable to accusations that he lacks legitimacy — his term would have ended on May 20 had martial law not postponed an election

Bloomberg stop you very Chudy

The idea that Zelenskiy lacks a proper mandate to lead the Ukrainian war effort is a talking point pushed by his enemies in the Kremlin. But like most of the best propaganda, it taps into real questions over how viable it is to suspend the normal democratic process over the long run, especially with signs of frustrations with the government starting to emerge.

Yermak isn't one to operate in the shadows of power and — at six feet, three inches (190 centimeters) — he towers over Zelenskiy. His social media profile is replete with one-on-one images of Yermak with Pope Francis, French President Emmanuel Macron and others — often with his boss nowhere in sight.

5' incel

Is controlled by 6'3 shadow leader Chad

A June 7 post on his Telegram channel showed Yermak shaking hands with US President Joe Biden, while Zelenskiy nearby greeted Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin — a protocol reversal that triggered wry commentary in Kyiv.

The personnel moves attributed to Yermak have raised concern that any further tightening among Zelenskiy and his inner circle could sap energy for badly needed reforms — even measures to fight corruption and bolster the rule of law, according to people familiar with assessments in Western capitals.

But Yermak's mandate is broader than that of any of his predecessors. He's been central in every key wartime decision: replacing Zelenskiy's top general, sourcing weapons supplies, negotiating security guarantees, overseeing prisoner swaps and — at the Swiss summit — winning over the Global South to Kyiv's cause.

Some officials have compared his role to a chief executive officer, with Zelenskiy acting as chairman.

The reason why some khohol politicians snitching Yermak like this because if they get rid of him Zelenskyy is nothing so they can frick him easily

Allies have been watching closely. The replacement of Ukraine's popular top general, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, in February raised hackles in NATO capitals over a shakeup just as Kyiv confronted a fresh Russian offensive.

In May, Yermak was instrumental in the removal of Infrastructure Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov, an official who once had a direct line to Zelenskiy and was close to the Biden administration, according to people familiar with the ouster.

The presidential office failed to adequately explain the departure among other personnel changes, leaving foreign governments to puzzle over the move, the people said.

So democrats are pissed at him

Zelenskiy's trust for Yermak was on par with that of his wife, Olena Zelenska. Yermak even used to join the couple on overseas holidays before the war, they said.

"Russia is not motivated," Yermak told journ*lists on a conference call. "In the end, victory is on the side of people who are motivated."

I never seen western media owning Zelenskyy this hard

!ranchers !edgelords !chuds

He was looking for special some one

And pressed r2

Julian Jihad mad one of his jihadist friends is now with 40 virgins

🇺🇸🇷🇺 REPORTER: "President Trump has said repeatedly that he could've gotten the hostages out without giving anything in exchange. What do you say to that?"

BIDEN: "Why didn't he do it when he was president?"

-> 3/4 were imprisoned during Biden’s term

pic.twitter.com/XHEWLsC652

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 1, 2024

Germany got some RUSSIAN opposition politicians who were labelled in Russia as foreign agents and jailed.

They just couldn't made a worse trading deal, not only Putin gets people he wants but he also got justification for labelling opposition politicians as foreign agents

Those politician are going to do an live stream on YouTube telling how bad Putin is on platform that is now banned in Russia

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/08/01/youtube-users-across-russia-report-sharp-decline-in-loading-speeds-a85902

At least when they trade that trany it was an entertaining personality that US traded the moment Russia told it was going to do gender test

This is bad news for Trump.

It was thought that Putin would hold on to them and "when" Trump was installed as president he will miraculously arrange the safe return of US citizens.

Maybe Putin is calculating that Trump is toast and it's not worth waiting.

Even Putin can see the writing is on the wall for the ex-President.

Redditors made this all about Trump losing

They also mad at this paper

I have no idea what it is.

Anyway what did they expected 2/3 Ukrainian children left Ukraine in 2022, 0 children died in that strike. Ukraine gov did a good job saying that day that x Ukrainian civilians died IN WHOLE UKRAINE they never specified about that hospital because 0 died but all people started donating that hospital instead of khrivi rig because children hospital sounds more noble despite Ukraine basically has no children especially no terminal children because Ukraine gov was able to send them to Germany and etc and made them a cost for Germany

It's cute that the you decided not to post that news in English so not many people see this

https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/zumutbar-in-die-ukraine-zu-reisen-hessen-verweigert-ukrainischen-wehrpflichtigen-ersatzpasse-12122777.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

https://www.the-berliner.com/english-news-berlin/protests-over-ukrainian-far-right-azov-brigade/

Slavs didn't

But it's legit waste of money because they assume that Ukrainian men would visit those events where they'll get automatically recruited.

At this point Zelenskyy says there won't be 1991 borders and end will be in November so for what exactly those guys will join the army ? For last chance to capture something ?

European Union requires more easy to assimilate immigrants to keep growing. The only major easily accessible group of immigrants remaining is Ukrainians and Russians.

Russia itself also requires a population boost, and the only accessible manpower are Ukrainians.

If Europe loses the Ukraine war they will begin to decline within a decade.

If Russia loses the war they will begin to decline within a decade.

EU needs Russia to fall into decline to increase its power levels. Russia needs EU to lose to increase its power levels. Both these regions don't have a large enough local populace to raise their power levels without winning a conflict or two.

The current Ukraine war is a war for survival between two major powers of the world, and whoever loses is set permanently on the path of stagnation and death.

This is why I believe the Ukraine war is going to continue till the end of 2030, as it is a war of survival so no power is going to give up the region until and unless a point is reached where it costs far more to keep the region than to let go.

This is why we are going to keep seeing a scaling up of the quality of tech that Ukraine receives year on year, meanwhile the Russian side is going to keep improving on quantity of weapons over quality as the quality has already peaked.

The F-16 released in 1978. So Ukraine still has decades worth of tech transfer left available to it for military applications.

Meanwhile the US is happy with a forever war, so as far as it is concerned this is the best possible result as a forever war where Russia might almost win is a war where it wouldn't escalate to nukes, but also a war where they will lose due to tiring out from all the fighting in the end, or until they run out of people willing to fight the war for them.

Every time Ukraine loses some land it will be supplied with even better weapons. With a major chunk of dead Ukrainians and Russians, Slav culture will decline even further, and it will become even easier for the EU to assimilate these territories down the line.

Long term expectation:

Ukraine wins the war. Assimilated into EU afterwards.

Russia loses war, replaces its population with Central Asians. Many women immigrate to Europe, US, and China.

✈️🇺🇦 The publication "Dumskaya" writes that this is the first photo of the F-16 in Ukraine pic.twitter.com/nJmsCfSB7h

— MAKS 24 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) July 31, 2024

From

Game changer to

And funniest part at this point f16 won't hold the situation. Since Russian started using 500 bucks foam drones

That Ukraine proudly told they shot 89/113

https://x.com/realstigh/status/1818633013850144887

There wasn't any explosions because drones were empty since goal was to waste Ukrainian ammo

So why do we have so many f16 stories around ?

Because it's

Anniversary

And

Russian basically separating the pocket of Ukrainian soldiers into 2 and now Ukrainian have to cross an chocking point of less than 1,5 miles and then an chocking point of less than 0,5 miles so it's pretty much no way out now so better ignore this and 2 cities lost and talk about F16

Also interesting fact, Germany has won against US a battle in December 1944, Germany had won a battle against Soviet Union and Poland in April 1945. Ukraine won zero battles in 600+ days and they are

And to make Ukraine look better they had to add Ukrainian raids that ended in nothing as "battles"

But my objective unemotional friend @Szia_uram is back he will tell me how wrong I am

This drone is made out of foam, loaded it can fly max 100km

Ukrainian told he flew 260km.

So Ukrainian blown tons of those.

And there media coped with phrases like this:

And considering how and from what the Russian "Gerbera" is already assembled, it is obvious that the Iranian drone remains the unattainable top of technology for the "Alabuga" employees, - analysts of the publication emphasize.

On the video you can see the drone was damaged from a fragment so an AD missile was used.

Blowing up a drone that cost no more than 1000 buxx with an missile that cost around a million

The yellow is what they captured after my post about them losing an city zaizne

It's very big deal because as you see:

Purplish zone is og line so in that direction it didn't moved even an inch because it's amazing defence line

And if being technically its less than 2,4 milled till encirclement

Yellow line is where the soil is useless for movements. So less than a mile Russian not to capture for gg.

Those guys that are about to get encircled (around 5000) are veterans and one of best Ukraine units. Ukraine now has dilemma pull and lose 50% of them or stay and let them fight by causing damage to Russian. Objective choice is second and it's seems like what Ukraine is about to do since not much media is talking about it. But this choice can easily back fire, what if they decide just to sit in bunker for months and the surrender ?

Ukrainian spirit ain't that high now

One Colombian group attacked Ukrainian position in chesiv yar then other came to rescue but video ended on Russian hands.

@Tonberry polskie brat we can out perdole khohols for Galicia

Who was right ?

@Tonberry do your commie thing about me not being right

North Korean Bulsae-4 anti-tank missile destroys a British AS-90 self-propelled artillery in Russia-Ukraine war. The missile has a 10-15km range and can perform top-attacks. pic.twitter.com/MKfiJWZv42

— LogKa (@LogKa11) July 30, 2024

Burgers javelin latest version has 2,5 km range.

Those Koreans can't build anything decent everything they build is shit

I bet one such missile cost 1/10 of price of an javelin missile

Also good news for khohols that bongs gave them 53% of all their artillery to Ukraine. They only have few older cannons so they have a reason to believe in bright tomorrow.

Don't forget only fans gdp is bigger than many countries including NK

As you can see in the map, it looks like their best defence line is going to be encircled a giga waste since it was impossible for Russian to attack them head on.

When Ukraine loses those 2 yellow circles it will be just gg for this sector

Meanwhile Zelenskyy

Getting prepared for attack from Belarus

Also there will be a trade between Germs and Weißrus

Germ wants that germ merc back that got death sentences in Weißrus.

for now

For a Russian citizen and the only Russian citizen Russian wants is that guy that killed some Chechen warlord. So Lukashenko made a bank

This is genius tittle so instead of accept Putin bad deal now of giving him fully Donbas, postpone it till he capture Donbas and hope Russia will just stop after defeating most of Ukrainian soldiers since they all mostly in Donbas and at that point not having problems getting last rich region of Ukraine

Ukraine is at last stage when they can use Donetsk as trading material.

Like all their strong holds are now getting encircled even their fav uhledar

This was a month ago

This is now

So that city now lost an vital road and if Russia launches now from south an attack the city will have only some small off track roads where Russian will easily pick up the cars especially if they start this in October. But it seems Russian want to get closer to those off track roads

Like capturing that yellow zone and it will be over for uhledar

Ukraine is at point where Russian attacking them in to many directions and Ukrainian forces ain't able to cope with all the attacks and started moving reinforcements around and when they pull soldiers from one direction than Russian attack that direction.

But no worries Zelenskyy told it will be over by end of this year, he will just make his talk positions stronger till November and than in November peace talk where Russia will take part (even tho they told no) they will accept Zelenskyy peace deal

As part of the new military aid package, Germany will transfer to Ukraine:

— 8 Leopard 1A5 battle tanks together with Denmark;
— 21,000 shells for Gepard anti-aircraft systems;
— 10 surface drones;
— 10 ground radars;
— 24,800 protective helmets;
- the Polish hospital. pic.twitter.com/i6MbRoofg3

— S p r i n t e r (@SprinterFamily) July 29, 2024

Oh never mind found the answer

Then the germs will tell they ain't corrupt when they send 100 broken tanks to Ukraine

and

The Leopard 1 is maneuverable but only has 70mm armor while later models of the T-72′s armor are 700mm at its thickest.

It barely has more armor than Bradley and it's slow so any drone will easily out chase it. No wonder khohols ain't ruching it to the front.