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Elon makes an elementary school physics statement. RedditorsContext: Ion/Hal thrusters accelerate a propellant (i.e. a fuel) using electricity . Calling this electric propulsion is not really an epic own (though most redditors prefer to just argue against high school physics instead)
A rocket can't be electric since for it to be a rocket it needs a rocket engine, but this just semantics and has nothing to do with Newton's 3rd law. Elecric propulsion is possible using an Ion Thruster.
I love when people who actually know shit call Musk out. As a professional software dev I always had this hunch that what he said in his interviews about cars, rockets, trains, etc. was BS but never was in the position to prove it.
Elon is right but it doesn't count becaaauuuuse 
his semantics and this hunch i have
Starlink satellites use hall effect thrusters. Musk not only sucks at engineering but he doesn't even know his own product line.
Redditor completely BTFOs musk by pointing out that his companies already use these technologies 
But we could use a balloon to reach the sky, and then some sort of electric propeller.
What if we launch a giant air balloon into orbit 
Hi, actual physicist here. He doesn’t know what the frick he’s talking about. Also my father was a physicist and it so happens he worked on researching electric rockets for NASA in the 1960s.
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Because apparently you can't use electricity to create propulsion directly. Oh, wait [ion propulsion wiki link].
proceeds to link something that doesn't create propulsion directly
In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
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it's all so tiresome
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I guess we can thank their father for all the electric rockets we have today.
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For our next debate, is a Physics BA a real physics degree?
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I remember when reddit invented a whole new branch of maths to prove how bernie could still win
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Match me brother
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Did he win ?
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Not yet but he still can, here's how
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Trump/Bernie 2024
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Stochastic terrorism?
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I hate this weird cope that a billionaire is actually an idiot.
Unless some neighbor straight up inherited a billion, he has to be at least above average to get to the big b club.
These people couldn't turn 10 dollars into 20, let alone an inheritance of a hundred million into billions.
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noooooooo Apartheid Emerald Mine noooooooo Emeralds nooooooooooooo
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It's like the "Trump is only wealthy because his dad gave him a loan when he was 20" cope
Even though the biggest meme about rich kids is how they are all useless and squander their money within a generation, unless it somehow stays in a trust or as stock in a company they didnt directly create.
These people have zero concept of hard work, ability, and putting yourself in positions of opportunity
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Nah Trump 100% just inherited a vast intergenerational wealth(he got way more than the small loan) and then put that massive seed money into a real estate economy that his family was already established in which is literally just printing free money. Whether or not he worked hard doesn't have any real bearing on how rich he is.
Elon on the other hand did legitimately build himself up with nothing. If you look hard into his past you'll find that his dad Erroll was an early investor in paypal for $20,000 but thats the extent of what Elon recieved from intergenerational wealth.
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Trump made a lot of money before he cashed out on his dads buildings. He was always going to be a rocket from his personality alone
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What was he doing that made him that money before he cashed out?
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He invested in a series of shitty buildings that turned into cash cows when Manhathan blew up from a shithole into a nice place in the late 1980s->early 90s. It was a gold rush. Then he invested in Atlantic City casinos then his dad died and he was able to use his $$ to rescue from the bankrupcy hole he never fully recovered from when a deal when sour.
Then he turned into a media-driven brand that he licensed all over the world
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Yes that is literally what I just described in my initial post. Im sorry but using your family's vast wealth and pre-existing real estate company infrastructure to buy some properties isn't what being a hard working self made man is.
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That's a big difference from a rich kid living off the success of his upper-middle class father, which is what we're talking about.
If you think that's all he is you know nothing about business.
Just list how many people 100x'd their family "fortune", let alone 500-1000x.
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Yeah if you want to dunk on Trump there's numerous other aspects of him that make sense to go after.
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yeah srsly, he was born to be an American brand name, in the hollywood/media sense. That always mints money. But most of all he cared more than 99% of people.
but he was always the media rich-guy vain caricature villian for a reason. Cuz he was a giant douche who made his entire apartment out of gold like a Euro-trash Scrouge mcduck. He's legit r-slurred. But still loveable.
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CHUD
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its terminal
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They really think it was hard to get a loan before 2008?
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It's literally just jealousy. This dude is having the time of his life by dunking on libtards and making billions so r*dditors have to cope by pretending that his objectively impressive accomplishments actually don't mean anything because of meaningless qualifiers they pull out of their butt at random.
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Also 10 children.
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Oh, man. I had no idea he had so many. This only makes him all the better.
Someone make an /r/HaveMoreKidsElon sub to maximize the seethe.
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And it's probably because he does it strictly via IVF which tends to result in twins and triplets, so that he genetically screens them for various bullshit.
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So IVF helps to forecast things like autism or Downs etc.? How does that work?
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Down's work by literally noticing an extra chromosome. Autism and shit, idk, I suppose that billionaires have interesting experimental options available to them.
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Probably just /r/pronatalism if that's not already a thing. I wouldn't know I don't Reddit.
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noooo he's rUnNiNG tWitTer InTo thE GroUNd!" it's crashing^TM and burning^TM!
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And Musk didn't start with $100M, but a couple $100k. He would have eventually inherited $5M at most.
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what's wrong?
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A couple one hundred thousand dollars is an awkward way to say it, that's all.
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oh. yeah
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Source? I thought he started with almost nothing during the Zip2 era.
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yeah, i meant "at most." his dad invested 200k in zip2 afaik, and he definitely got some material benefit growing up not poor.
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He didn't say electric spacecraft, he said rocket.
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It's obvious what the question was asking.
It wasn't asking can we use an electric 'rocket' to slowly turn a small satellite already in space
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Unaccomplished r-slurs smugly claiming Elon doesn't know anything about rocketry make me seethe. If they weren't just pulling it out their butt to own chief chud, they'd know how involved he was in engineering decisions especially for the first few years. The Merlin engine lead designer and one of the guys they try to give all the credit too, Tom Mueller, has repeatedly said Elon was calling most of the shots engineering wise.
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Imagine trying to dunk on musk and then confusing newton's 3rd law of motion with the 3rd law of thermodynamics
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From the little I've read about him, his actual talent beyond generating massive hype
is properly interacting with his engineers.
I'm sure some of his technical skills have entrophied over the years, but he can recognize talent and look after talent.
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autism recognizes autism
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He's not gonna suck your peepee bro
Transform your Marseys!
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You're right, I'm going to suck his.
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Getting off Musks rocket, without electricity
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This donger has hypergolic ullage boosters
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It's OK. If the amount of Redditors who hate a person crosses a certain threshold, the person is immediately clueless about absolutely everything even if they specialise in it. It's Newton's Fourth Law. Not as well known as the third, but more important.
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Leftoids, shitlibs, and chuds all love to believe that their personal bad guys are or were idiots. Most people of note in history were of above average charisma, intelligence, and motivation, and many people hate to acknowledge that they're never going to be remembered.
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All the interactions are electromagnetic
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"HUURRRRRRR HURRRR HURRRRRRR" this is what you sound like right now. Be a good r-slur and shut the frick up
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Hi mimw happy Monday
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Also bulk properties of metal are caused by the Pauli's exclusion principle, which is not your father's EM interaction.
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If an Ion thrusters and electric rocket then a prius is an EV
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A rocket can't be electric since for it to be a rocket it needs a rocket engine, but this just semantics and has nothing to do with Newton's 3rd law. Elecric propulsion is possible using an Ion Thruster.
It requires a gas
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Even then, an ion thruster has very slow acceleration ramp. That kind of thrust is good for long distance journeys when you’re already in space for higher masses, and much more practical to be used on a lower mass probe.
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Elon musk should say trans women are women, let redditors prove him he is wrong
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"Hello everyone, this has nothing to do with the post, but I am a professional software dev."
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EM radiation could be used to propel a rocket if you really felt like doing that.
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All definitions I found speficially mention combustion or at least jet propulsion.
It's definitely feasible in space, is it theoretically possible on earth without destroying the planet?
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No idea, not my problem tbh.
Ok, but actually if we do some back of the napkin calculations:
Assuming all the EM radiation is pointed in the right direction,
E=c*p for light. Rearranging:
We get 3.352×10^12 J per kilogram of payload (https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=%28%281+kgescape+velocity%29speed+of+light%29)
or 1.4×10^-5 times the energy released by the Tsar Bomba (https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=%28%281+kgescape+velocity%29speed+of+light%29%2Fenergy+released+by+tsar+bomba)
So we can launch approximately 71 tons for 1 Tsar Bomba explosion worth of energy which we know does not destroy the earth.
(https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=1%2F%28%28%28escape+velocity%29*speed+of+light%29%2Fenergy+released+by+tsar+bomba%29)
For reference the ISS is 445 tons but it was launched in many separate pieces, so it's easily able to launch comparable loads to the heavier things we launch.
Is a spacecraft able to withstand such radiation though? No idea.
I spent 2 minutes thinking about it though so I could easily be making some rslurred mistake.
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Yeah, in broad strokes it's just
E = pc/ radiation pressure.The main engineering challenge here is you can only launch very highly reflective things this way: abnormally/impossibly reflective things. Putting terajoules into a kilogram of anything is going to turn it into a plasma, so the radiation needs to get reflected rather than absorbed. This is symmetrically true regardless of if the craft is emitting its own radiation or being propelled by an external beam.
Also, the pesky atmosphere in the way is going to severely reduce efficiency for the first few kilometers of the launch, because you're also turning the air into a plasma. But ignoring all of that… it at least wouldn't destroy the Earth, probably just whatever you're launching.
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what about electricity generation? Is there any hope of reactors that could create the needed power without weighing more than the payload? Or would we need to shoot the rocket with lasers from earth?
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snakes said it better than i ever could. very flattered you would put me in xer league considering there's much smarter people than i,
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You and snakes are the 2 others dramatards I think of when physicstrags are relevant. I know we have a ch*míst somewhere too.
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closest thing i can think of is solar sails, but it still requires momentum conservation. under most regimes where forces are in the form a acts on b and b acts on a, this then implies newtons third, so
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Yeah, I'm siding with Redditors on this one. Musk is a tard yet again
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Accelerates a plasma propellant in the video r-slur
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electrically, r-slur
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Newton’s third law r-slur
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Doesn't apply.
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Lol
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Lol. Lmao.
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But if you run out of propellant it's useless
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Just put more electricity in it.
Trans lives matter
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Just put more electricity in it.
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My car is electric because it has spark plugs.
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Unfortunately there are no gases or air in space
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