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Israel has mounted...

>its different cuz...

way to move the goal posts

how do you think that scales to a border like ours, not even considering entry via the fricking sea?

simple, we spend more money on that, and actually deport/punish peoppe who come here illegally like mexico and israel do

is not, no matter how many times you tell this lie lol.

the border is open, youre the liar/one making spurious arguments. There's no specific definition of an "open border" anyeay so I dont get why youre zeroing in on that, except to make the conversation incoherent

What's the magic number for immigration?

there is no specific number, having tighter border controls is a direction to move and an ideal some voters want to have valued. Just like some think we should accept all immigrants and "no human is illegal". Unfettered immigration is hurting workong class people and killing the poor, not to mention the crime its bringing and so i believe that we need to direct resources fo lessen it. Its not that complicated thag others feel this way too.

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way to move the goal posts

Do you comprehend what I just said to you? you're comparing a tiny land border with an absolutely massive border, with mountains, sea entry points, all of that. You are completely deluded if you think these are even slightly comparable, and even in the case of israel, a border 100000x easier to secure, people still sneak in.

simple, we spend more money on that, and actually deport/punish peoppe who come here illegally like mexico and israel do

We do deport people though, we don't have enough immigration judges.

the border is open, youre the liar/one making spurious arguments. There's no specific definition of an "open border" anyeay so I dont get why youre zeroing in on that, except to make the conversation incoherent

How is the border open? Based on literalyl what, what metric?

there is no specific number, having tighter border controls is a direction to move and an ideal some voters want to have valued. Just like some think we should accept all immigrants and "no human is illegal". Unfettered immigration is hurting workong class people and killing the poor, not to mention the crime its bringing and so i believe that we need to direct resources fo lessen it. Its not that complicated thag others feel this way too.

Tighter how exactly, be specific, how is the border open now, and what policy agenda would somehow secure the border?

How is it hurting the working class, quantify this using actual data from actual sources. How is it killing the poor? What % of crime has it contributed to?

My point is you're thinking emotionally and just repeating things you heard right-wing extremists repeat. The poor aren't dying because of immigration, you made that up. The working class aren't even the ones primarily impacted by immigration, and immigration, illegal or legal is actually a net gain to the economy according to all relevant data.

Crime I don't know, convince me, I seriously doubt it.

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people still sneak in.

no place is 100% secure, butt ublike the US, Israel is trying to secure their border. All the things you just said, just means there are differwnt logistics to securing the US border. Also i only brought that up bc you said rhe US border is just as open as most countries ,which is false. Even african countries are harder on illegal immigranta than the US.

we do deport people tho, butt dont punsih them enough and publicly encourage them to come back. Then they commit horrible crimes

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/01/us/texas-shooting-suspect-manhunt.html

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-migrant-deported-8-times-11-arrests-now-charged-murder-ohio-border-broken

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-deported-3-times-returns-california-lights-deadly-house-fire-mom-children-inside-source

i wonder how often palestinians get away with shit like that in Israel aside from the terror attack on Oct 17

How is the border open? Based on literalyl what, what metric

plz define a word with a number for me, lol you dumbass. The border is open bc it is not secure and even people who are caught entering illegally are then let go into the US to maybe see an immigration judge. Many of these people receiveing taxpayer money and cellphones from the feds when they do.

tighter how exactly

send them to prison after the first deportation especially if found with fentnyl. Call them "illegal immigrants" when they are here illegally. Stop giving them money for coming here. Defund "sanctuary cities". There is a reason the illegals from other countries dont stop when they get to mexico. We just have tp be as inhospitable to people breaking the law as they are.

How is it killing the poor

when it isnt fentyl, its suicide. Illegal immigration destroys middle class and lower clas incomes. Illegal immigration lowers wages acfross the board for unskilled workers even for jobs illegals cant or wont take, this is just basic economics.

crime

linked already

illegal/legal is a nwt benefit to the economy

only foe the super rich who can take advantage of the influc of poor/unskilled workers and leverage the fact that they will work for less to then pay our native poor less.

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Neighbor the dems campaigned on saying theyd enforce the border more than maga republicans

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