Particularly goulash threads, quoted lazy style:
Replies: (translated from israli hebrew)
If you are a citizen and this is your opinion, then you should know that I tend to agree with you, but at the same time I thank God that I am not in a place where I would be asked to make such a terrible decision.
I'm an Israeli and I agree with him. It's a hard choice to make but if you make the wrong choice every time, they'll just keep doing it.
It's not my choice to make you are right but it's obvious to everyone that Israeli society is willing to make the dumbest choices decade after decade.
There is no hostage as valuable on this planet than an Israeli hostage because Israel will throw away every objective to get them back.
Turns out israli lives aren't as valuable as palestinian deaths
Do I see this wrong, or does Israel look like the loser of this deal / war?
Then somewhere braindead ethnonationalist garbage. Yeah. Israel really lost with its 1:100 KD ratio.
They should not be rescued except by military action even if it means they all have to die.
I hope everyone who insisted that Trump was a great friend of Israel who will surely have the Jewish people's backs feels pretty stupid now. A whole lot of American Jews were trying to warn you that Trump was completely untrustworthy, and Israelis just refused to hear it.
๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ NOOO our greatest enemy...brokers a peace deal for us :(( we want blood
Trump (and his sycophants) will just blame Biden on this whole deal
???? He took credit for it
Another translation from modern Hebrew:
What do you imagine that continuing the war will achieve? Do you believe that "complete victory" is just around the corner? If we continue to fight there for another year or two or five years, Hamas will disappear and we will have peace forever? And that we can leave Gaza and forget about it? Or do you think we will have to stay there forever. If so, are you serving in the reserves, and are you prepared to continue doing plus or minus six months of reserve duty every year, until you are 45? Are you prepared for your children and grandchildren to live like this?
Enough with the illusion. Hamas is not going anywhere. After a year+ we are no closer to taking down Hamas than we were at the beginning. The most that can be done is to take their heads off, but as soon as they are allowed to, they will recover, and if it is not Hamas, it will be another terrorist organization. The only difference is whether the kidnapped people will return or not.
One commenter mentions their desire for "the chanpiom program" in Hebrew. No such Wikipedia article exists, and English mention is almost impossible to find online, but here's the Wikipedia article: Click here for israeli genocide plans
Here's the english wikipedia article
It is kinder
Generally if you see Hebrew in the thread it's because they don't want the reddit admins to see their comment. Not always.
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It also comports with their practices. If the people who eventually backed Hamas just wanted dignity in the form of something like a two-state solution, they could have had it. It was on offer at least once in the past generation. It was, of course, on offer from the UN in 1947/1948 as well.
You might argue that Israel is simply incapable of upholding peace with her neighbors, but obviously Jordan is a counterexample, and an Islamic one at that. Jordan gets along fine with Israel and even participating in defending Israel from an Iranian attack.
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there has never been an offer of a state since fatah accepted two states almost 50 years ago. zionists also rejected the 1948 plan on the grounds it left israel not demographically jewish enough so haganah/irgun pursued a policy of expulsion after the declaration of statehood.
this is because egypt/jordan are have both close relations with the u.s. the coup again morsi was even welcomed in 2013 by the americans.
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Maybe those other places should stop hatin' on the USA then!
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in all fairness those offers were bullshit tho and Israel never intended too keep their side of the bargain
Trans lives matter
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