This is my first reddit post, so please excuse any problems with the formatting!
For those who don't know, Hololive is one of the titans of the vtubing industry. Vtubers, short for Virtual Youtubers, are streamers who use a specially-made anime avatar for their livestreams, as opposed to the more traditional use of face cams. Many vtubers are also associated with the Japanese Idol Industry โ not only do they livestream, but they also dance, sing, and perform, selling out concert venues and occasionally appearing on the Japanese music charts.
Among its fans, Hololive is often-regarded as the Good TM Vtuber company. Fans love to dote about how kind, welcoming, and wholesome Hololive is, especially in comparison to its competitors. Clips demonstrating such values are widely popular among fans. This reputation has done much to buoy Hololive's success, but from a business perspective, it can also be a double-edged sword: any corporate decision which seems to violate said principles are viewed with immense alarm and suspicion, as fans fear losing the โlast good' vtubing company.
About three years ago, Hololive found itself embroiled in a major controversy. To describe it most briefly, it originated from everyone's favorite geopolitical conflict: the recognition, or lack thereof, of Taiwan as an independent country. At this point in time, Hololive was streaming to the Chinese market consistently via the Chinese streaming service Bilibili. Two of their streamers, Akai Haato and Kiryu Coco, were discussing their Youtube analytics, when they mentioned that many of their fans come from Taiwan. The backlash from Chinese fans was swift and immense. And it was, in large part, implicitly supported by Bilibili - or at least, many fans think so. To put a long story short, Hololive was forced to close its Chinese branch, and many of their remaining talents faced months of harassment. Eventually, Hololive decided to close itself off to the Chinese market completely, including, most relevantly, a decision to no longer stream on Bilibili.
A few hours ago, it was confirmed on r/Hololive that one of Hololive's talents, Kobo Kanaeru, has recently streamed on Bilibili. Cue the subredditdrama:
Some fans merely express their disapproval:
Yeah... It's legit. Not a fan honestly
Others are a bit more blunt:
Some see it as a betrayal:
Others, particularly newer fans, don't know what the big deal is:
A few even support the decision:
There's plenty more in the rest of the comments: https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1ddd13x/its_real_kobo_is_streaming_on_b2/
(And for clarification, you will see a lot of comments discussing Cover. Cover Corp is actually the name of the corporation behind Hololive, and Hololive is essentially their flagship branch. But since Hololive is a much more famous name to outsiders than Cover Corp, I used it).
https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ddhve8/three_years_after_an_explosive_controversy/
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You know this has to be the saddest thing that zoomers are into
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I just dont get it. Like that pippa one too that lulbertarian zoomers are obsessed with. Like aren't they all under companies and producers now that make asian moids sit around as virtual anime girls that constantly scream at each other thinking its funny?
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its no worse than the people worshipping regular ecelebs. the culture is a little different but also similar in the core ways. the online age in general is bleak as frick so i think maybe chill out and let people enjoy things from your glass house mr niche chud website user
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"NOOO my hecking loli p*dos are hecking normal!!! Let people enjoy things chud"
Keep yourself safe.
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nobody is normal. normalcy as a concept died out in the 21st century. were all hopped up on dopamine and slowly going insane from isolation and extremely fake conflicts. ironically the people most obsessed with the concept of normalcy are some of the most degenerate of them all. so yes, let people enjoy things, chud. said fully sincerely and unironically
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First they came for anime p*dos, and I did speak up because I wasn't a chud, I guess![:tayshrug: :tayshrug:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/tayshrug.webp)
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Most online take iv seen in a long time.
You think everyone's a freak bc you're one and that all you see.
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Where do you think you are r-slur?
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Im an elder sperg who has grown up tyvm![:marseyboomer: :marseyboomer:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyboomer.webp)
This is just the best version of reddit/4chan/what ever.
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ah yes the man who gets his personality from commie YouTube essays
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uh excuse you my personality was downloaded from 4chan and then extensively modified from there thnk you very much
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Even if this were true, this is not much of a defense
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this is an unironic reddit post
you're being catfished by a man or a fat woman, you know that right?
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I personally feel that it is way worse. Though worshiping ecelebs is also bad.
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It's a little worse, these people talk like these idols are their whole lives
They obsess over the lives of these women every hour of every day
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All streaming is subhuman, both streamers and their audiences. Doesnt matter if anime flavored or not.
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Kardashians
Allah forgive me for my dramaphobia ![:marseysalat: :marseysalat:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysalat.webp)
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