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Three Years After An Explosive Controversy, Hololive returns to Bilibili. r/Hololive is not happy.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1ddd13x/its_real_kobo_is_streaming_on_b2/

This is my first reddit post, so please excuse any problems with the formatting!

For those who don't know, Hololive is one of the titans of the vtubing industry. Vtubers, short for Virtual Youtubers, are streamers who use a specially-made anime avatar for their livestreams, as opposed to the more traditional use of face cams. Many vtubers are also associated with the Japanese Idol Industry – not only do they livestream, but they also dance, sing, and perform, selling out concert venues and occasionally appearing on the Japanese music charts.

Among its fans, Hololive is often-regarded as the Good TM Vtuber company. Fans love to dote about how kind, welcoming, and wholesome Hololive is, especially in comparison to its competitors. Clips demonstrating such values are widely popular among fans. This reputation has done much to buoy Hololive's success, but from a business perspective, it can also be a double-edged sword: any corporate decision which seems to violate said principles are viewed with immense alarm and suspicion, as fans fear losing the ‘last good' vtubing company.

About three years ago, Hololive found itself embroiled in a major controversy. To describe it most briefly, it originated from everyone's favorite geopolitical conflict: the recognition, or lack thereof, of Taiwan as an independent country. At this point in time, Hololive was streaming to the Chinese market consistently via the Chinese streaming service Bilibili. Two of their streamers, Akai Haato and Kiryu Coco, were discussing their Youtube analytics, when they mentioned that many of their fans come from Taiwan. The backlash from Chinese fans was swift and immense. And it was, in large part, implicitly supported by Bilibili - or at least, many fans think so. To put a long story short, Hololive was forced to close its Chinese branch, and many of their remaining talents faced months of harassment. Eventually, Hololive decided to close itself off to the Chinese market completely, including, most relevantly, a decision to no longer stream on Bilibili.

A few hours ago, it was confirmed on r/Hololive that one of Hololive's talents, Kobo Kanaeru, has recently streamed on Bilibili. Cue the subredditdrama:

Some fans merely express their disapproval:

Yeah... It's legit. Not a fan honestly

Others are a bit more blunt:

Fricking yikes

Some see it as a betrayal:

I still remember the harassment Fubuki faced during the whole ordeal. I think it was almost a year or maybe more of constant bots flooding her chat. No collabs could happen during that time because the bots would flood other chats as well. It almost broke Fubuki as well till some members just disregarded it and started to play games with her on stream. Constant harassment just gets to you sometimes no matter how strong you may be mentally.

Others, particularly newer fans, don't know what the big deal is:

so I'm genuinely unfamiliar with what this means. could someone explain what the significance of this is, and why people are so upset? all I know is that bilibili is a video platform.

A few even support the decision:

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but I just wanna say that not all of the people in Bilibili are bad and I'll support Cover and Kobo in this endeavor.

There's plenty more in the rest of the comments: https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1ddd13x/its_real_kobo_is_streaming_on_b2/

(And for clarification, you will see a lot of comments discussing Cover. Cover Corp is actually the name of the corporation behind Hololive, and Hololive is essentially their flagship branch. But since Hololive is a much more famous name to outsiders than Cover Corp, I used it).


https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ddhve8/three_years_after_an_explosive_controversy/

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Bilibili dumped their stonks in Cover's rivals.

VTubing in China in general is dead because the CCP made laws that cucked VTubers such as limits on how much people can donate, how much money a VTuber can receive, CCP moderators and self-doxxing themselves. This as a result killed Chink VTubers and instead created the current Chinese livestreamer model of shilling products for that are somehow worse than Temu-tier products and as much soft-core pornography they can get away with even not being allowed to show cleavage.

TL;DR: Cover won the VTuber Wars.

All Chinks must apologize at the feet of Chammers. Artia and the rest of those backstabbing whores should have their fingers and elbows broken and then get karate-chopped in the throat by the Fubuki then Nanking'ed by Nakiri Ayame; the Ultra-Nationalist.

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Nakiri Ayame; the Ultra-Nationalis

Wait what?

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She didn't respond to/like a birthday art that my cousin; Ninomae Ina'nis, made of her, thus Nakiri Ayame hates Koreans and is an Ultra-Nationalist Jap who is too busy protesting in the streets against Koreans to actually stream as her hololive model.

The meme:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17182291145880241.webp

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I see. The only follow up I have is, what are tips for dating a Korean woman. I've been out to coffee once with one and she doesn't hate me.

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Sprinkle some emotional support, pretend to care about her day, give her a hug daily , dont be fat and poor; you can be fat and rich, but not fat and poor.

simple as

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