seethe as more industry legends(Otomo, Oshii and Takahata) shit on nu-anime like Miyazaki regularly does.
Katsuhiro Otomo:
Mamoru Oshii:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/271158756/#271158756
Isao Takahata on Makoto Shinkai:
"He manipulates the hearts of socially inept young people"
From a newly-uncovered review of Hoshi no Koe:
I did not appreciate it at all, I think it's just a "tricky" one-sided deception for young people. But it seems to have tickled and touched the heartstrings of today's socially inept youth through its clever expression, so it sold well and won several awards. In short, the author was one of those who, by becoming a creator himself, succeeded in "living in reality without graduating from or escaping from such a world," and was supported by young people who did not want to "graduate" or "confirm their own non-growth," and this whole phenomenon was supported by the "information media industry" and its promoters.
I must hasten to say that this is an evaluation at this stage, and it is quite possible that the author, who has started on the path of an artist, will begin to create more socially conscious works in the future, thanks to his social life.
Isao Takahata, "Animation, Occasionally" (Iwanami Gendai Bunko, p. 208)
I personally find it weird 
. /tv/ hates nu-cinema, /pw/ hates nu-wrestling and even /sp/ admits soccer 
isn't what it used to be. But the anime fandom (be it /a/ or /r/anime) is the only community that defends nu-slop to this extent. Sure, there are some detractors but people nowhere what's happening in other media.
Funnier still is the right wing faction within the anime community 
. Amongst other things I've seen
1. Western weebs who want to protect precious Japan from the savage third worlders, Jews and wokes.
2. Third world weebs who want to protect precious Japan from the degenerate capitalist westoids, Jews and wokes.
Any criticism of nu-anime often gets you clumped together with either group 
.
Anyway, the anons in those threads are absolutely malding 
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Tbf anime has always had a bizarre fandom.
I'd put most of it down to anime fans being socially inept pariahs.
Were I to dig deeper, I might point to the fact that anime fans are fans of a specific form of video. That's a very peculiar thing to be a fan of.
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It's recursive fiction that gets further and further away from reality with each iteration. The thing is that otaku hate reality so that's the point. Weird that normie zoomers are starting to get swept up in it
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Reality into symbol into simulacrum. The viewer could step out at any moment, but they hold the construction as superior ("3DPD") and even hope it destroys reality ("Can't wait until artificial wombs and realistic gynoid models make roasties obsolete", and to a lesser extent, VTubers).
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Anime is the Maitreya Buddha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_in_Buddhism#Millenarianism
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Not that surprising, we have our own versions with comic books, pro wrestling, high fantasy, etc. Theyre just getting into the foreign versions just like a subset of american pop fans are now into KPop instead.
Its all slop anyways
(but no i wont give up my dramatic fake fighting even if it is slop, everybody's got a vice)
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Its effected everything. The whole gimmick of Spider-Man in the swinging 60s was Peter was a real kid who suffered real problems unlike the perfect cleaned up DC heroes. Now the spider-man movies are a self recursive string of multiverse slop and literal copies of a copy. Fiction has become universally about itself.
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Media is experiential welfare and we're having issues with welfare dependency
Fricking autocorrect
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reality is the best source of inspiration. Base your villains on real evils like people who force me to say palestinian lives matter like
@MoonMetropolis who is a fat male feminist devil man
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This isn't a TRVTHNVKE, it's a TRVTHHYDRVGENBVMB.
Up until some point in the early 00s most weebshit from Japan was written by authors who were somewhat grounded in real experiences. Nowadays even the real experiences that Jap authors draw on are submerged in the recursive layers of weebshit culture that's managed to become the standard over there. Even in older anime like Evangelion you could see the start of it all.
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It's an increasing feature of society, people use media as a form of emotional regulation, outsourcing certain parts of basic human satisfaction to artificial fulfillment. Podcasts offer simulated friendships, porn offers simulated sexual relationships, certain video games offer simulated purpose and place. These have a tendency to spiral into a universe increasingly separate from reality. Hikkimori(including alot of Otaku) are unique in outsourcing everything to media. Most people just use it as a crutch for the things there missing which is an increasing problem.
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I actually don't know what you're referring to tbh
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They're palestinian lives matter believers and should be all r*ped by big black men like
@MoonMetropolis was.
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I don't really watch anime which means that all my views are objective fact instead of nostalgia-clouded opinions. Having said that I absolutely agree with that Cat-sushi Otomoto neighbor from the first paragraph who said that old anime looks better. Berserk looks cool. GitS looks cool. Akira, Eva, Cowboy beep-boop look fricking cool. Something like CSM looks lame. No I will not elaborate on what this means or why it is that way.
The only thing I will add is that I think Kon's work which is relatively recent had a pretty unique style in that it didn't have this infantile stylization that many shows have and instead tried to appear true to life. I wish more anime did that.
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I think new anime tends to be glossy and washed out, older ones were much sharper. The shadows looked 1000 times better.
Also, older ones had more emphasis on machines (especially vehicles) and environment, now those things are often neglected and replaced by CGI. Characters are the only focus.
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This movie wasn't very good but it still mogs all anime from the past decade or two in terms of visuals.
Another thing is that I think anime just has shit direction nowadays. Shot composition is boring as frick (probably because it's easier to draw characters at flat angles) and as a result nothing is very interesting to watch even though individual frames can look pretty.
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Reminds me of the "stage play" problem that /co/ talked about with modern cartoons. Or the "netflix" look that streaming shows are trying to ape now. Cut costs and sanitize everything to appeal to wider demographics and reduce shooting time.
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This is my first time hearing this term but I feel like I know exactly what it means based on the clips I've seen from some modern cartoons.
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Which is?
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https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/144835151/#144845558
and
@Dlanor
Basically the background is unchanging and the characters move across it as if there's only one plane and play to the screen as much as possible.
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You just don't get 'em like this anymore
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This the original Bubblegum Crisis and anything by Masamune (Appleseed, etc) scratch an itch
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Thats because technology was still new and cool and the possibilities were endless back in those days.
Technology these days is mundane and essentially magic because the average normie wouldnt know how anything works anymore.
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Its funny how we claim technology nowadays is magic despite all the magic being drained from it. The problem as I see it isn't that the nature of technology has changed, but rather that corporations have managed to change our beliefs about technology. Look at apple, new apple phones that come out yearly have incremental improvements such that they can keep pumping better ones out each year without having to put nearly as much effort into them as they could be and people will still buy them for a competitive price. We could have forever advancing technology limited only by our imagination, but what we instead have is an illusion of gradual advancement given to us by our corporate overlords and that mundanity of technology has trickled down into our ideas about technology as a whole. The magic of technology was invented by tech overlords to keep us from figuring out the ruse by trying to make functional technology for ourselves. We think tech is impossible to figure out so we don't even try.
This is all to say frick society for being a bunch of lazy fricks who don't give a shit about anything and leaving me to rot.
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no way
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I love Ghost in The Shell soundtrack
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So much of the charm in old anime was the absolutely insane attention to detail
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Masaaki Yuasa is one of the few directors who I think really makes the flatter modern style really work. The Monogatari series does it really well also
!anime
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See but those are dynamic shots, you don't even get that nowadays unless you're watching shonenshit and shonenshit is its own can of worms.
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Tbh I have no idea what's going on with really recent stuff, I think the most recent show I watched was Eizouken and that was 2020
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Honestly a lot of people are right that media always has highs and lows, but I feel like it's been a particularly low period lately. Movies and shows are in a slump creatively. Which I chalk up to streaming services becoming the norm. The only way to get people to sub is by pumping out slop to inflate the size of the video library to make it look more desirable.
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I've never watched much TV but outside of the really big blockbusters I've always found a few films each year that I've really enjoyed.
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Anime was always pornographic, it's just it was better when the animators had a fetish for the machine.
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They just traced 3d models as soon as the technology became available anyway
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To take that further, most '70s-'90s (maybe early 2000s as well) anime used to be some flavor of sci-fi, with larger themes about technology and war and power. Now, like most fiction, it seems to be almost entirely about individuals and their minutia. A world of people obsessed with themselves and the people they follow. And if you read darn near any subreddit on books, tv, or movies, this is what all those goobers want.
OMG the characters!
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Sci fi is done to death tho, hard not to make anything not insanely derivative
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True, but even if derivative, getting some shows circa 2024 with larger plots that encompass philosophical ideas/debates would be pretty novel among all the "character driven" stuff.
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have you seen Kaiba? it's bretty good, science fantasy with a sort of early anime (think astroboy) style. The only driving forces in sci fi rn are japan and china, with the 3 body problem probably being the best recent hard sci fi(only ever read the synopsis tho)
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I did like Cowboy Bebop. That's a good one, maybe the only anime I've seen that I'd actually recommend to people as worth the time.
@Szrotmistrz There you go. 
DBZ, Gundam Wing/G Gundam, Rurouni Kenshin, and 
@inuyasha were also childhood favorites watching toonami 20+ years ago.
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I've been meaning to watch it for 2 years at this point. But instead whenever I get free time I watch euro, indie and arthouse kino slop because I'm just too good for it.
90% of it is trash however so in a way I do get the anime-watching experience.
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same. There's good anime out there but I dislike anime so heavily as a whole, I just stick to s*x-addicted french film makers and that works out good for me.
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Unfortunately rurouni kenshin neighbor is like the biggest p-do, had to drop it
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Well at the time that wasn't known (?) and regardless I'm talking about 20+ years ago when I was a minor myself. Forgive me my anime sins,
@R-slurredBackpack. Samurai X was really cool.
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Don't worry I ain't judging you, it's just easy DC to mention it
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Love you, pal. How have you been?
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Fine.
It always could be better, I could have a girlfriend, be rich and have a gun.
But otherwise it's fine. My grandma is visiting and that's always nice (for 5 minutes, after which she becomes unbearable). I got lots of cheese in my fridge.
Idk. Things just are.
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What are your favorite kinds of cheese, and what varieties are currently in your fridge? !goyslopenjoyers
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Imagine the cheese between her toes
!ranchers
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You are gross.
!moidmoment
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WE HAVE A MISOGYNIST HERE FOLKS.
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BIPOC why would you make @911roofer see this. Palestinian lives matter but yours doesn't
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I'd rather not.
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I don't have taste, I can tell probably 3 different types of cheese apart. But if I were to say which one I like the most it would be some mould cheese like the President, mild one though.
I didn't get any of those this time (this one can actually be bought in Poland), so I only have some sharp Swiss cheeses in my fridge.
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I like mozzarella kind of cheese, they work well in Indian dishes and some types of ramen
Mexican cheese is great for quesadillas
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You put mozzarella in ramen? I'm somewhat familiar with the different kinds of broth, which fits that?
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It's usually for the carbonara kind of ramen lol
!goyslopenjoyers
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A pack of kimchi ramen and an obscene amount of cheddar cheese melted it at the very end when you turn the heat off is v good
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I think my tastes are changing and I'm liking goyslop portions of cheese less and less.
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Only mozzarella - all other cheese is gross.
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You are going to be the first one up against the wall when the revolution comes.
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The best cheese is firm, mature, nutty, and Dutch.
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I'm a brie fiend now
never had it before this year
now I buy $10 wedges constantly its an expensive habit
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If you have an Aldi's near you they sell decent cheese for low prices, I think it might be a loss leader for them? Trader Joe's is also cheaper for cheese than normal grocery stores.
I love brie omelettes.
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the aldi ís where the walmar is I jus´t made a post about how I canst stand driving there
I've never seen a trader joes in my life
i get the cheese at HEB
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Based on the facts that:
A. Me and my family are all Mexoids (and also from an area far enough from the border - and closer to the sea - where a lot of norteno/Tex-Mex ingredients aren't popularly used)
B. That me and my siblings all possess varying degrees of lactose intolerance/general dairy sensitivity (which was apparently much more severe back when we were young)
C. My parents generally wanted to avoid goyslop and other generally unhealthy excesses/cooking of the nation (i.e. they want to keep us nice and lean, of which cheese was thought to stand against that)
It all contributes to the outcome that we don't really eat a lot of cheese, or at least a variety of cheese. Basically, it's really just mozzarella/queso fresco to eat with beans/quesadillas/tacos/other entrees, or slices of American for when we are cooking burgers - along with the occassional charcuterie platter of cheddar/gouda/haverti/all that stuff. And also fancyish goat cheese, and also cream cheese for bagels/toast/desserts, if that counts.
...that being said, we are cooking more and more with stuff like cheddar or Monterey Jack, mainly on the grounds that we developed a stronger tolerance for dairy (or at least just ignored it lol), so that's pretty cool lol
And basically, I just like all cheeses (except for maybe the one with maggots in them lol)
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Not one single person is gonna read all that
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get a room you fricking cute twinks
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I think Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist, Gunsmith Cats and Jin-Roh are worth watching too
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Cowboy bepoo has adults in it. Current anime is all cgildren that palestinian lives matter supportees want too have s*x with.
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The colors and settings were darker and edgier, in the literal sense. Nowadays, it's very bright and sterile.
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100% correct btw. Even shinchan has more soul than 99% of current slop
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This is one of the things I think western animation does better. Western cartoons have a ton of different unique artstyles while anime is so derivative you can literally tell the decade any given show was made because everything follows the exact same trends.
The west can learn more about storytelling and writing (every western comic is either superheros or political cartoon, and every western show is a family guy clone)
The east can learn from the west in art direction and style. (every fricking anime girl looks the exact same with the only difference being their hair style and color)
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Westoid characters be like
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But also...
How could you forget about her?
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she isnt a cartoon
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I think he's talking about things like Heavy Metal and so on
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Yeah, I always found it really weird how despite slight differences, most anime ends up looking the same. I wouldn't say the west should learn from the East though since japan's 'improved' storytelling's literally just "let's make all the characters annoying teenagers that sexually harass women". I'd actually say there's more variation, even within the westoid comicsphere considering the Walking Dead was a thing.
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These are all mainstream batman comics from across the eras all radically different art styles:
This is just counting one of the biggest heroes ever and not even more experimental characters let alone indie and non corporate comics !comicshitters Like people shit on comics for using nearly 100 year old characters but there is more difference between two batman comics then two Isekai slop stories.
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Yeah, like I said, it's really weird how in westoid comics you can see lots of variations on a single theme whereas in manga the protagonist's been 'teenager who wants to frick all the girls' since time immemorial and the art style's just a slight spin on what's already done. Like sure, chainsaw man does look slightly different from other anime but it's not really All That.
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what about the Kevin Smith one where batman wets himself?
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You don't watch anime.
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western animation peaked in the late 80s and the newer stuff is ugly
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The 80s were one of the worst times for western animation. The only worse time was the 70s.
Watch one he-man episode and tell me that animation looks good.
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yeah youre right, i was just jerkin myself off over heavy metal
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It's actually pretty sad that no one in the west's animating gritty, gory and brutal shit like heavy metal, even though there seem to still be animators into that doing game trailers.
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This but peaked at Ed edd n eddy
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ok yeah nvm the other guy was right, if you look at all the big western hits they are way more varied. Ed ed n eddy, spongebob, rugrats, all super stylistically different
Captain Star was a trip
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Anime did too.
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anime peaked with evangelion
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90s for me. I think there's just so much variety and tons of adult shit too. MTV in particular had a lot of interesting and great animated series for older audiences.
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I really liked devilman crybaby because it had a different art style than most anime.
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