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/a/utistic weebs :marseyweeb: seethe as more industry legends(Otomo, Oshii and Takahata) shit on nu-anime like Miyazaki regularly does.

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/271421436/#271421436

Katsuhiro Otomo:

>"I don't really like the art style of most anime these days, the ones that appeal to otaku tastes. So that means I don't watch much modern anime."

Mamoru Oshii:

>"I'm not watching anything. There are zero titles I'm interested in. I mean, I'm over 65. Trying to get into anime aimed at young people is impossible. That's true for Japanese films in general, not just anime. Everything is made for a young audience."

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/271158756/#271158756

Isao Takahata on Makoto Shinkai:

"He manipulates the hearts of socially inept young people"

From a newly-uncovered review of Hoshi no Koe:

I did not appreciate it at all, I think it's just a "tricky" one-sided deception for young people. But it seems to have tickled and touched the heartstrings of today's socially inept youth through its clever expression, so it sold well and won several awards. In short, the author was one of those who, by becoming a creator himself, succeeded in "living in reality without graduating from or escaping from such a world," and was supported by young people who did not want to "graduate" or "confirm their own non-growth," and this whole phenomenon was supported by the "information media industry" and its promoters.

I must hasten to say that this is an evaluation at this stage, and it is quite possible that the author, who has started on the path of an artist, will begin to create more socially conscious works in the future, thanks to his social life.

Isao Takahata, "Animation, Occasionally" (Iwanami Gendai Bunko, p. 208)

I personally find it weird :marseyshrug: . /tv/ hates nu-cinema, /pw/ hates nu-wrestling and even /sp/ admits soccer :marseydrum: isn't what it used to be. But the anime fandom (be it /a/ or /r/anime) is the only community that defends nu-slop to this extent. Sure, there are some detractors but people nowhere what's happening in other media.

Funnier still is the right wing faction within the anime community :wingcucks:. Amongst other things I've seen

1. Western weebs who want to protect precious Japan from the savage third worlders, Jews and wokes.

2. Third world weebs who want to protect precious Japan from the degenerate capitalist westoids, Jews and wokes.

Any criticism of nu-anime often gets you clumped together with either group :marseybrainlet:.

Anyway, the anons in those threads are absolutely malding :marseycopeseethedilate:.

!kino !anime enjoy :marseyagree:.

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This is one of the things I think western animation does better. Western cartoons have a ton of different unique artstyles while anime is so derivative you can literally tell the decade any given show was made because everything follows the exact same trends.

The west can learn more about storytelling and writing (every western comic is either superheros or political cartoon, and every western show is a family guy clone)

The east can learn from the west in art direction and style. (every fricking anime girl looks the exact same with the only difference being their hair style and color)

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western animation peaked in the late 80s and the newer stuff is ugly

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Anime did too.

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anime peaked with evangelion

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>peaked in the 80s

The 80s were one of the worst times for western animation. The only worse time was the 70s.

Watch one he-man episode and tell me that animation looks good.

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yeah youre right, i was just jerkin myself off over heavy metal

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It's actually pretty sad that no one in the west's animating gritty, gory and brutal shit like heavy metal, even though there seem to still be animators into that doing game trailers.

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This but peaked at Ed edd n eddy

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ok yeah nvm the other guy was right, if you look at all the big western hits they are way more varied. Ed ed n eddy, spongebob, rugrats, all super stylistically different

Captain Star was a trip

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90s for me. I think there's just so much variety and tons of adult shit too. MTV in particular had a lot of interesting and great animated series for older audiences.

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Westoid characters be like

:#marseychonker: :#marseyhomofascist: :#marseykween:

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:#marseycalarts:

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But also...

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17273586528913739.webp

How could you forget about her?

:#marseydespair:

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she isnt a cartoon :marseyaveri:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1727359217579103.webp

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I think he's talking about things like Heavy Metal and so on

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  • DEV0T10 : theres a lot more variation in manga art styles than anime. not as much as comics but you notice it

Yeah, I always found it really weird how despite slight differences, most anime ends up looking the same. I wouldn't say the west should learn from the East though since japan's 'improved' storytelling's literally just "let's make all the characters annoying teenagers that sexually harass women". I'd actually say there's more variation, even within the westoid comicsphere considering the Walking Dead was a thing.

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These are all mainstream batman comics from across the eras all radically different art styles:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17273673278513029.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1727367328313031.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1727367329501849.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17273673304395828.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17273673306677496.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17273673323249454.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1727367332505933.webp

This is just counting one of the biggest heroes ever and not even more experimental characters let alone indie and non corporate comics !comicshitters Like people shit on comics for using nearly 100 year old characters but there is more difference between two batman comics then two Isekai slop stories.

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Yeah, like I said, it's really weird how in westoid comics you can see lots of variations on a single theme whereas in manga the protagonist's been 'teenager who wants to frick all the girls' since time immemorial and the art style's just a slight spin on what's already done. Like sure, chainsaw man does look slightly different from other anime but it's not really All That.

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what about the Kevin Smith one where batman wets himself?

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You don't watch anime.

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I really liked devilman crybaby because it had a different art style than most anime.

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