I'm sure by now that everyone in /h/anime is aware of the drama that's unfolded at Nijisanji over the past few days. There have already been a couple of posts about it here in this hole should you need to catch up.

https://rdrama.net/h/anime/post/243148/another-vtuber-is-taken-out-back

https://rdrama.net/h/anime/post/243920/nijisanjiis-been-trending-on-twitter-for

But tl;dr the vtuber group Nijisanji EN (a brand owned by AnyColor/IchiKara/EniKara) has been under constant heat, losing fans and sponsors, since firing one of their top talents Selen Tatsuki (now known as Dokibird). In their press release, for some reason they decided to admit that they, the management and the other talents, had harassed and bullied her into trying to kill herself. None of that was known to the public prior besides as usual /vt/ speculation. She had asked a week earlier to be allowed to quit on neutral terms, instead they fired her publicly without warning. Genuinely baffling.

In the days since, Nijisanji EN sub numbers have continued to drop, while Dokibird managed to break 130k concurrent live viewers on her return stream. The official NijiEN subreddit and Twitter replies have been completely taken over by angry fans and antis (vtuber lingo for hater).

If you didn't know any better, you might think that this poses a serious threat to the company. Yet, in one of the previous posts on the matter, I was doubting this decline (I'm a niji anti btw ) because of the fan response I was seeing. @vegan_doggy_bottom asked me where I was seeing these comments, and I gave an accurate but incomplete answer. Now, I will finally give you all the truth. Let me lead you all into the land of the sisters

nyfco.org

(I've never opened this site without adblock btw so don't blame me for anything that happens if you do)

For long time vtuber fans, that link may cause you to raise an eyebrow, and it should. nyfco was once the largest Japanese vtuber doxxing site on the net until the admin got scared off by joint hololive and Nijisanji lawsuit threats and stopped updating it. These days you won't find a single Japanese commenter, but it's more active than ever before. Because it has been completely colonized by western female fans and Chinese & SEA fujoshi (collectively known on /vt/ as the sisters ).

If you don't know much about vtubers beyond the existence of hololive, that may surprise you. But yes, female vtuber fans do exist, and they mostly watch the boys in Nijisanji. Niji is perhaps the only well known agency that goes hard into pandering to the sisters and they repay that with the kind of blind loyalty only women are capable of. There are a lot more of them than you would think, and if I had to make comparisons to a more known group, I would say they're most similar to the kpop community.

But back on topic, why has a defunct and outdated Japanese doxxing site become the largest dedicated Nijisanji EN discussion forum you ask? Truthfully, I have no clue.

Most discussion happens in the comments (yes comments, it isn't even a real forum lol) of the doxx page for former Nijisanji EN liver Nina Kosaka (now VShojo's Matara Kan ). Why? I also don't know, but she was the first to properly graduate (and almost immediately join rival company and talk shit) and the sisters are notorious for turning on anyone who leaves Nijisanji, so I imagine they just stayed there after a colossal sperg out. Nina's page, at the time of writing, has 385K comments. For reference, disgraced former hololive talent, cheating whore, and possible cat decapitator Uruha Rushia's page has 507 comments.

"Blah blah blah, enough back story, let's hear the enlightened discussion of the fairer s*x. I'm sure they're actually quite rational and level headed." - Your thoughts, perhaps

Well let's take a look at how they're handling the whole Selen situation, shall we?

No links cuz they're just comments on a page.

Here's who we're dealing with

I can't support millie and doki at the same time, everytime I see her face it just reminds how frick up millie and enna getting beat up on the internet, rosemi losing her miles stone and sponsorship, I cant understand why some of you famillies still willing to promote that fake butt b-word. let say it all because the management but at least if she really care about her ex coworkers (you must be know how millie and selen before this drama) but she choose to keep silent after few days

I know millie is a strong girl but we never know how she felt and the damage already done

These are the fans of Nijisanji EN

Elira, Enna, Shu & Rosemi is the proof of good manners, have respects, understands your rules and work etiquettes can bring money more because the company also the 3rd party company trusting you as their PR and representatives.

“OOHHH, they're bootlicking the company” NOOO!!! they understand they WORKS for company and actually read their contracts & rules. Enna, Elira, & Shu have beef with management before, but three of them still have common sense not ratting on social media especially the things that you're post clearly misinformation that force you to streams so you can clarify your words.

Thats show How Professionals this people.

The EN stands for ENGLISH btw

It seems the sisters are watching in bad faith

so for a second i was kinda disheartened to see she had 27k viewers, then i realized thats a 100k drop from her debut lmao. ppl really were watching just for the drama. and it'll continue to sink too!

dookieflop!

I don't know how she'll come back from that one!

“time to start your doki shrine” lol shes so egotistical

always has been, but I think its best to just forget about her at this point

Well if Nijisanji EN manage to clarify everything and restore their reputation its a godsent that they dont have to deal with more of the egoistic acts anymore. To be fair she is highly ambitious which probably leads to why some of her actions seem egoistic, but what she is doing now and previously by breaking company rules multiple time is super toxic. Bunch of illiterate people and bandwagon vtuber drama followers blindly believing her without any solid evidence is so ridiculous as well.

>if Nijisanji EN manage to clarify everything and restore their reputation

The site has visible upmarseys and downmarseys btw. Let's see how that's going.

“We almost lost Selen to suicide how can you support Niji!”

How can you support a manipulative b-word that even backstabbed her genmates and everyone in the branch.

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Ok, honestly? I'll accept this as genuine, it just took her so darn long to put this tweet together. There's even a hint of empathy in the second part. Like, if she had done this shortly after the accusations started, maybe I'd be open to starting anew and watching her. It's too late though. She's on my shit list.

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1755823842327449641

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Genuine or not, she could've done this on the day the news broke. She comes off as a two faced b-word and I hate it so much. Look at how fast it escalated. From the fake leaks to people jumping on the hate train for clout. I hope she enjoys the very peak of her career as Dokibird before she gets outed as a manipulative b-word.

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A genuine person would have posted this as soon as possible, she chose not to and only did the bare minimum. It took her this long to do this.

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Just so we're all clear, they're mad at her for not running damage control on the claims of bullying fast enough. You remember, those claims that she never made publicly? The ones THAT WERE MADE IN THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC TERMINATION NOTICE WRITTEN BY THE COMPANY THEY'RE DEFENDING. Can you believe the gall of this backstabbing b-word to not to do that before checking with her lawyer? Surely Nijisanji retracted this damaging statement that needs to be covered for?

selen was one of my oshis, i watched 3/4 of her streams LIVE and then came back to many of her vods but oh frick the whole thing she just did?? i lost all respect i had for her.. she started all of this and the silly ‘dont bully others' on that 2 hours fricking ad stream was funny.. girl your ‘nijien family pleading_emoji (?) sure enjoyed you sending your army to them. good sister enjoy these 400k+ dead subs from deranged incells.. literally sayu 2.0 and i dont care about her mental health. im mentally ill too but thats not the reason to be a SHITTY human being.

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>selen was one of my oshis

>im mentally ill too

>but thats not the reason to be a SHITTY human being

These people definitely support the talent and not the company

Hey quick question that's kind of off topic, but do any of you have Indie streamers that you like to watch too other than Niji Livers?? Sorry, I know this is random lol I'm just curious if you have any good recommendations :))

Not after they all turned against niji on a whim T – T

A whim? Replay the Selen cam:

the follow suite shit is so boring and tiring. so many of the livers have expressed the things theyd never be able to do without being in niji. claudes expressed feeling relief on being able to pay off student loans, fulgur has been able to pay for medical bills that would probably put someone into debt, doppio with his million and one allergies can buy food that doesnt give him reactions and help support his family, uki has been able to go to multiple drs appointments to help himself etc etc etc. I know most of these people are baiters but especially on twitter its so fricking boring. Being able to put 500k into something you love also? thats so exciting and literally the dream. being able to afford to make really good music you love? some livers wanted more and thats okay, but so far whos here currently are content with what they have and it sucks this situation could take that way. gtfo

Wow, joining Nijisanji sounds amazing! You can afford debt payments, food, and basic medical care even though they don't provide medical insurance or profit!

On the topic of finances, a lot of them are still coping about the 2% thing. (Nijisanji talents are only paid 2% of every merch sale. This has been confirmed by both current and past, English and Japanese talents.)

I cannot believe how many people still believe that 2% without any nuance at all. Do they sincerely believe enikara gets the rest without thinking of the money that goes to sourcing materials, paying artists, actual production process, packaging and then reinvesting the same amount to producing more merch? We don't actually know about that bc the only percentage we know is the 2%, and everyone is just running their mouth about it… (Now if I made any mistakes about what I said pls cmiiw)

The people who still believe that either holostrags/dramawhores, illiterate, never work a job in their lives or esl especially SEA. I'm SEA and the amount of people here who still believe about the 2% is concerning even some ex-id fans believe that its real (I'm also ex-id fan btw)

>I'm SEA

This part made me laugh so hard.

People didn't include context for it, there's a whole bunch of financial terms and definition thrown around but I'm way too tired to remember properly but the gist of it is:

Niji only gets 5% net profit from merch sales, the remaining 95% goes into creating the merch. From that 5%, 40% of it goes to the liver while the company keeps 60% of it.

Anons correct me if I'm wrong

Yup. Let's say merch cost them $95 to produce. They are at -95. Anycolor sells it for $100. That $100 is called gross profit. -95 +100 = 5 Now they are left with $5. That's the net profit. Anycolor takes $3 of that and liver takes $2. That's 40% of the actual profit. That's a really good deal.

For the record, Nijisanji merch is almost entirely mass produced cheap Chinese garbage like buttons, polaroids, and plastic cut out stands with different jpegs stuck to them. They might be too tired to remember those financial terms, but I trust their numbers!

remembering how kson was like omg” how evil 2% merch cut ” when she owns her own image and probably has a lot of decision to her merch while niji livers dont own their character or barely take any part if at all of the creation,planning,comissioning,design of the merch. like yeah ofc their cut will be way smaller like people need to think.im not a business person so maybe they should have more for being a constant promotion to merch even if they dont promote it (lol mysta) but like perhaps the rest is going to the other ppl who created it ofc LOL. (i do hope the nijien livers can do liver produced merch on booth like the others one day)

It is happening but it's a good thing

As sisters who live on a doxx site do, they've been digging up stuff from before her time in niji.

Will Doki ever admit to having BPD now? Or will she just go with “I went to a therapist only thanks to the depression Nijisanji gave me” angle? Her saying she has BPD is probably a bad look to her new fans.

only if she can sell it as a sobstory

There are so many comments trying to say all of the problems are caused by her BPD. I guess it takes one to know one?

i am actually in tears right now. i basically avoided this site after that announcement because i thought it would be 10x more toxic than twitter.. but it turns out to be the other way round. for days i've been tormented by the negative tweets on my fyp and from some of my closest mutuals. as much as i hate to say it but i don't see doki as completely “innocent”, considering her bpd. so can you imagine my feelings when i came here 5 days later to see everyone thinking the same as me T-T

seeing how everyone is so united and encouraging others to support the livers gave me the motivation too! you guys are amazing. let's continue spreading love to nijien <3

>tormented by the negative tweets

Luckily some of the sisters are positive!

A lot of people have already pointed this out but I will still say it's incredible to see us being this determined and united. After those horrendous and agonizing days to now seeing us having this frick you energy and the power rise back up. This will not be the end and karma will do its job so let's fully focus on supporting Niji livers

Horrendous and agonizing days will increase our ki

I used to be a one of those massively blind Niji haters but this situation opened my eyes to a lot of the overexaggerations and misinformation that's spread around the company and their livers. I really was a holotard and it's embarrassing to see how stupid my past comments on the company were. I see now Niji offers tons of wonderful things and includes really awesome people. Sure Niji does have issues, but so does literally every other Vtuber company. Bias truly can get in the way of how we see things. Especially now with all these people blindly supporting Doki while harassing others for no reason. They really think they're doing the right thing. Scary stuff TT

least obvious

Some final funsies

I'm going to use my tax refund to support our oshis

May I get some? Just 300 bucks, pleaseeee

With supporters like this, I'm sure the organs are gonna be juuust fine

I just want to ratio comments with my doppio piss kink propaganda but whenever I come back theyre always flagged let me have this guys

do u mean doppio has a piss kink or u have a piss kink about doppio anon

not op, but i think both

whats so fun about piss??

(op) you just dont get it… and thats okay…

This is not at all relevant, but it felt important to include. There is a surprising amount of horny posting.

So, there you have it. Nijisanji EN is going to be fine. Well, I wouldn't go that far, but their downfall won't be because all of their fans abandon them, of that I am sure.

And I hope that next time you go to support that BPD back stabbing traitor b-word who waited 2 whole days before even trying to end the witch hunt that the company that fired her started themselves for no reason, you actually stop and think for a second. Think of the poor sisters who need their anime boy parasocial relationships. She didn't even kill herself anyway, she only tried ffs.

And of course, you should absolutely leave them alone and not go post anything in the largely unmoderated Nina Kosaka doxx page's comment section.

Link to the Twitter post to Archive it

For a bit of backstory, Mikeneko was a vtuber who was formerly know as Rushia from Hololive. Who was well known for being Menhara, in ways that make Matsuri look entirely sane. Well she got kicked from Hololive for directly chatting to fans for a Girlfriend Experience, leaking company info, and it was leaked she was dating a Japanese singer which caused a fan sperg out, Hololive doesn't give a shit about that

Link to summary here.

Well as of two weeks ago it was confirmed she married that singer, was pretty much more Menhara irl, and that they got divorced in like a year. The good little jannies cleaned the thread up because it was "baseless rumors." And the thread from her blog wasn't locked.

That the latest release has shown the rumors were basically correct. Which makes me wonder what the impact on her attempt at becoming a voice actor. She is a character in a five minute ecchi about hotsprings, its confusing on why it got made.

#JJKSPOILERS #JJK250

GOJO CAN 100% COME BACK:

It’s hinted in the recent chapter that Yuta and Yuji had somehow “cheated” their training. People are speculating that Miyo may have aided in training, the same way he aided Maki during her battle against Naoya.

This chamber may… pic.twitter.com/IZStIivIE1

— baeli 💫 (@BIGDADDYGOJO) February 9, 2024

He's not coming back. The author literally hates him.

FANZA Bans Doujinshi Creation for "Sousou no Frieren" Franchise

FANZA has enforced a ban on doujinshi artists, including Hentai creators, from producing content related to the "Sousou no Frieren" franchise, with other Hentai websites likely to follow suit. pic.twitter.com/EpSvFg4ku1

— Tachiyomi (unofficial) (@iiTachiyomi) February 8, 2024

Continuation of this Drama

They've been trending with the term "Black Company", for you nonweebs its a shitty company that burns out and abuses employees.

Several well known artists, and vtuber game creators have commented including Kay Yu, Pako, frel, etc

Multiple merch groups have decided to stop doing business with Nijisanji, most notably HYTE

Nerds have been mass unsubbing from other talents channels.

The next bit of juicy drama is that ANYCOLOR doesn't expect this to impact stock prices.

Their stock is down over the last week, though is still up a year to date.

There is a forum of JP bros on a stock forum for part time traders and small time investors talking about how they are selling now, though I need to find the origin of the link and get a translation done.

Rrats submitted to /vt/ and reddit

Nijisanji is hiring for a tard wrangler in Canada, Where Selen was a talent.

Internal Leaks by a member of Nijisanji or a lot of effort into a troll:

More Leaks

Edits as I find shit:

One of the artists who did work for Nijisanji didn't actually pay him and the talented ended up having to pay him

What the fuck are these clowns doing? The war in Ba Sing Se was a huge part of the story: pic.twitter.com/UkHCXLuvp8

— SierraWhiskey (@SierraWhiskey9) February 7, 2024

Nhentai subreddit discusses this tragedy

https://old.reddit.com/r/nhentai/comments/1aiwndt/favorites_issue_possible_purge

!anime !coomers

I know that most of them are garbage bur are there any good ones?

【Notice: Termination of Selen Tatsuki’s Contract with ANYCOLOR】
We hereby announce that we have had to make the difficult decision to terminate our contract with the NIJISANJI EN Liver ‘Selen Tatsuki’ effective immediately, due to repeated breaches of contract and misleading… pic.twitter.com/arIds68TZu

— NIJISANJI EN Official (@NIJISANJI_World) February 5, 2024

Selen from Nijisanji

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1754459958119432664

I will not be silenced anymore. On Dec, I was hospitalized for an attempt that was caused by a built up of bullying from within&being in a toxic&poor environment for numerous months that led to my breaking point. I requested to leave first but on more neutral terms on 26th Jan.

I honestly don't think nijisanji is going to get away unscathed from this

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1754460581955051656

I am still me, every memory and achievement I've earned is still me. They cannot take that away. Please let everyone know that this is where I am now, I hope you all find me again and we can laugh together again.

Konami think it's easier to make pedome than videogayms

Another week passed, another week I barely watched anything

Maybe this evening Ill make some progress with fruits basket.

!anime

@A pin pls

The chapters are relatively short so it's worth checking out. The humour is often surreal contrasted by a realistic drawing style. The art itself is very good. Unfortunately the manga was axed although the author is still drawing new chapters for free on his Xitter.

Cubari link for convenience

https://cubari.moe/read/mangadex/5896e05d-3900-4947-baf8-403a9d8fa5ec

There's thread up on /a/ right now if you're interested.

https://archived.moe/a/thread/262461285

https://crazyforanimetrivia.com/netorare-is-the-most-popular-genre

!anime !kino !fellas

Tsundere childhood friend

Bossy older sister

Sweet younger sister

Perverted cousin

Proper lady

The innocent

The goth

The slut

The older slut

The yandere

The crazy b-word

The athlete

The cool girl

The nerd

Tsundere younger sister

The bookworm

The idol

The Rei ripoff

The tomboy

The feminine tomboy

The headmaster's daughter

The milf

The aristocrat

The stepsister

The manipulator

The class idol

The airhead

The ditz

The adopted sister

Big tiddy goth girlfriend

I was looking for cute queer slice of life show and someone suggested Onimai. I don't know if there are actually any LGBTQ characters but as a trans woman who didn't come out until her 30s, the idea of getting to start my life over as a woman is the ultimate dream. Plus, what I've seen of the animation looks gorgeous and super adorable. So I was disappointed to learn that she show has a reputation for being really creepy and has tons of fan service. I tend to feel any fan service is a lot of fan service so I was hoping to find out if anyone had seen it and if so, how bad and prevalent is the fan service, and is the show actually creepy?

yes.

>is the show actually creepy?

This one is entirely in the eye of the beholder, I think.

There are plenty of people who think that the show is a spiritually beautiful, uplifting celebration of life and a powerful message to male Otaku about how the female life experience is both different yet not so different from the male one, and about developing empathy for that experience.

There are plenty of people who think it's borderline pedophilic pornography (although these people haven't watched that much of the whole series).

>how bad and prevalent is the fan service

Mostly just big, bouncing boobs sort of stuff but in a very soft and gentle palette and moe artstyle that causes it to raise flags for some people.

There are a few scenes relating to peeing and wetting oneself, but at least two of these are critically integrated into the plot and the themes. To expand on that, many ecchi anime/manga often use female incontinence as pseudo-sexual sort of thing, and the act of wetting often connected to being an orgasmic sort of thing. OniMai sets up this situation and then baits-and-switches, cutting from actual act of self-wetting to turn it into a moment of supportive bonding.

>as a trans woman who didn't come out until her 30s, the idea of getting to start my life over as a woman is the ultimate dream

In many ways, the OniMai anime is about gender fluidity, which means it may not mesh very well with your own experiences. It's not about Mahiro developing an identity as a girl, but instead he is fairly explicit about maintain his identity as a boy (in a girl's body), it's just he increasingly enjoys many aspects of what being a girl entails, as well as discovering some of the biological experiences.

That might well be quite unrelatable in some ways, although it obviously very much depends on your own personal experience of those issues.

That said, it is very much a celebration of those things, and all about rediscovering joy that's been lost and repressed and it may be immensely relatable and emotionally moving if that's what you connect with.

@TranstoyerCarbine as someone who has read the manga, is this true?

Its not a show that represents transgender experience. Its an indulgent fantasy that happens to use a gender switch.

this

It's an anime

also this

The Japanese version used in the film.

!anime !kino