Daily Bard Digest 2024-07-16

At 07/16/24 22:08:06 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 1 point:

I believe the term used in the literature is "LOL LMAO ROFLCOPTER".

They will never, ever, ever turn on one another until they've been removed from the levers and halls of power, or they've utterly secured those levers and halls of power.

They know that the only thing between them and failure on one side and world conquest on the other is not rocking their collective "LGBTQ commie atheists antifa boogeyman" vehicle

At 07/16/24 16:23:29 in GenderCynical with a score of 2 points:

a bit

Oh, no. More. Much, much more than just a bit.

It's been an expression of far right extremism, and comorbid with violent antisemitism, White Identity Extremism, misogyny, Islamophobia, etc for decades in general as a hatred of LGBTQ people, and specifically targeted for about a decade because of funding from right wing religious hate groups for TERFs & TERF groups, to act as a front for the right wing religious hate groups, to disguise their influence. They started before Obergefell was decided.

Reddit used to have very many subreddits that existed to platform hatred of transgender people. They all had significant support from, or operation by, violent white supremacists.

The white supremacists loved to stoke TERF hate, because the white supremacists wanted cis lesbians attacking trans women, and vice versa, instead of paying attention to the real problem - the intense misogyny and homophobia of the fascist groups gaining power and influence.

At 07/16/24 11:49:19 in ModSupport with a score of 3 points:

Advise the girl to block the harasser, and you should block the harasser.

At 07/16/24 09:05:45 in ModSupport with a score of 1 point:

what does it say about Reddit

That they're a publicly traded corporation now, and have to make do with the cowtools, tech, and people that they have.

That their AI expert system triage model doesn't identify transphobia because it wasn't trained on transphobia - just like it doesn't identify misogyny because it wasn't trained on misogyny. Both are "widely acceptable" hatred ideologies. They are the most overlooked hatreds.

It took Reddit a year and a half after adopting Sitewide Rule 1 before they banhammered MGTOW, and 2 years after before they banhammered SJiA & TiA, which were explicitly set up to promote transphobia. The people who ran those groups still have moderator permissions in other subreddits, including a still-existing similarly themed parent subreddit explicitly set up to promote misogyny, islamophobia, and transphobia but which was operated to restrict itself only to slur-free misogyny, to maintain a presence on Reddit.

They whisper their hatred instead of shouting it.

Reddit's AI expert systems that do triage for AEO don't read English (or any other language). They are just a kind of powerful automoderatoresque filter. And the AEO employees that process reports are, by necessity, not veterans who can spot the subtle hatred and action it accordingly, because those employees (despite protections) burn out and have to move on.

That's a phenomenon that's industry-wide.

What does it say when a comment criticizing the Christian right is actioned before mods ever see the report

Reddit doesn't just action items because of content; they can and have actioned items because of actioning the author of the content. But, also — religion is an identity that can be targeted for hatred, and I've seen subreddits that explicitly targeted Christians for hatred and harassment. And seen Reddit close them, for hate. A speech act can be both critical of Christianity and express hatred for Christians. But that's a general principle.

And finally: the messaging they use for ticket closes conspicuously lacks "we didn't take action on this item becsuse we took action on the account in a way that encompassed the action we would have taken on it for this item, because of another otem kr behaviour". They have an "already reported" variety of close ticket messages to let you know your ticket was closed because the item was already handled, but the system that fires off those close messages doesn't differentiate between "didn't action this item because it doesn't violate", "didn't action this item because our assessor couldn't see the issue", and "system automatically closed this because at this time, a warning / temp ban / permanent ban had already been issued to the account and nothing more will be done to the account at this juncture, and this automated system is garbage collecting open tickets attached to this account".

That confounds figuring out how well first-tier is doing their job, from this side of things.

It will never be perfect. It will never even be good - not as long as society isn't. Not as long as Reddit remains open-registration.

But it isn't 2015-2018, when a cadre of White Identity Extremists choked everything worth doing off the site, in an attempt to mafia-control it.

Individual subreddits, and subreddit networks, can be good.

Individuals, individual subreddits, and subreddit networks don't get traction for being evil, and eventually get shuttered for being evil.

At 07/16/24 09:16:02 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 1 point:

Ding ding ding

At 07/15/24 23:33:29 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 2 points:

Yep.

The "Lone Wolf" model is better explained by idiopathic schizophrenia and paranoid ideation, and we get legit cases of it roughly once a decade a continent.

At 07/15/24 23:46:47 in ModSupport with a score of 1 point:

If you use the modmail form in this post to request an escalation, it helps modsupport admins triage and track the escalations.

99%+ of the escalations I send to modsupport using that modmail format are resolved satisfactorily.

Separately, you may want to look into making a standard ban appeals guide in your wiki pages, and when you ban someone, directing them to the ban appeals guide using standard language (a macro) - it saves having to read and process their follow-on abuse, and reinforces the boundary that the behaviour they were banned for is unacceptable.

At 07/15/24 23:48:22 in conservativeterrorism with a score of yall:

Hey, we aren't a meme subreddit. Please avoid posting memes here.

Can we talk about how the perma chud award is applied to white users at a disproportionate rate?

There are multiple users on this site who have been permanently chudded for reasons that are questionable at best. 100 percent of those users are Caucasion. How is this okay? Mayocide stopped being funny years ago and everyone who makes that joke is just an unoriginal little bugman. Sorry if you look in the mirror and realize that it's you (statistically it probably is because 75 percent of this site's userbase are clones of each other who use the same jokes over and over and over and think peak humor is changing their names to match the holidays or site events) then you can take the first step to becoming an individual who matters by calling the jannies out on this shit.

Now is the perfect time to make this happen since Carp has taken another leave for attention. Jannies please unchud my main as well as anyone else who has been permanently chudded.

Snapshots:

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