Daily Bard Digest 2024-10-17

At 10/16/24 13:43:39 in RedditSafety with a score of 3 points:

-1.0% H/H ban rate on hate subreddit shuttering rate

There's the "dead cat" bounce. /r/AgainstHateSubreddits Mission Accomplished Banner

At 10/15/24 10:23:31 in ContraPoints with a score of 0 points:

We left that one up because her height is part of her public persona.

At 10/15/24 14:24:31 in TheRightCantMeme with a score of 9 points:

The Harris campaign put out a statement today that they have decriminalising marijuana on their agenda.

Which, I guess, is because she was pushed to the right -?

Just one obvious flaw. If you're going to put effort in to argue a position, put effort in to support your position. This isn't effort, it's just prolixity.

At 10/15/24 14:26:04 in ModSupport with a score of 18 points:

Many subreddits I run reject AI generated content. None of them have breakout rules explicitly forbidding AI; they all reject AI under the scope of exisiting rules about quality content, rejecting disinfo, truthfulness, etc

At 10/15/24 14:29:52 in transgender with a score of 6 points:

Someone who credibly claims to be a Catholic priest directed transphobic harassment at me this week, assisting a long running harassment campaign by neoNazis. I'm not feeling any empathy.

At 10/15/24 16:12:05 in garland with a score of 1 point:

Haven't seen them here; I'm pretty sure early voting hasn't started yet in Texas and mail-in voting here is limited to people who qualify for an exception to voting in person, which are the elderly, handicapped, late third trimester pregnant, disabled, etc

This is mostly just a PSA in case of shenanigans.

At 10/16/24 10:09:52 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 2 points:

we need to study how After WWII, Germany brought nazi supporting citizens back into their society.

Hi. I learned German in high school so I could get the answers that the English language textbooks didn't have about how Germany capitulated to Nazism and how Germany dealt with deNazification, reintegrating citizens who had been involved in the war on Germany's side.

You're not going to like the answers you find.

Mostly, it involved prosecuting a fraction of the Nazi officers and blatantly documented war criminals, keeping law enforcement files on the rest, watching a bunch of them escape to other jurisdictions, and the vast majority of Germans were just presumed to be able to reintegrate.

They hit a wall of diminishing returns and the rule of law, and upholding a justice system of law and evidence.

They reintegrated them because there had been a war that killed a significant fraction of them, made the worst survivors flee or unemployable or in prison/executed, and the rest had to deal with the Unconditional Surrender - the surrender that forced Germany to accept responsibility for the war and the loss and the crimes.

Nothing comparable has or is likely to happen in the United States unless the Republican party splits from the MAGA movement, citing terrorist violence, extremism, and abandonment of Constitutional order. Then the MAGA movement would have to be defeated militarily.

Or just by an unprecedented law enforcement operation that treats them as a criminal terrorist group.

At 10/16/24 13:53:57 in AgainstHateSubreddits with a score of 7 points:

The lessons learned from addressing hatred on Reddit — that denying hate groups and hate messaging the oxygen of amplification by providing a direct method of reporting violating content to Reddit Trust & Safety — are being used to combat CSAM / CSEM / NCIM as well, (which are now the prevalent forms of organised platformed abuse on Reddit, especially NCIM).

At 10/16/24 14:53:45 in ContraPoints with a score of yall:

Hey there

This is not directly connected to Natalie or ContraPoints, so we are removing it.

Sorry for any inconvenience

At 10/16/24 17:12:44 in RedditSafety with a score of 3 points:

And also, the percentage of Stuff Removed as compared to Absolute Stuff continues to go down. Which is good.

At 10/16/24 17:15:43 in RedditSafety with a score of 2 points:

Yeah, Community Interference is the term they use for the phenomenon colloquially known as brigading.

At 10/16/24 18:44:47 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 1 point:

Hi. Second moderator on the front page of the moderator list, here.

I'd like to take a moment to point out a few things.

1. OuterworldLV isn't the owner, producer, or employee of MeidasTouch;

2. OuterworldLV is a moderator in this subreddit.

3. please use the Report button to report things which you believe to be detrimental to the mission and purpose of the subreddit. Doing so prevents derails.

Thanks and have a great day.

At 10/16/24 20:59:34 in texas with a score of 13 points:

Good!

At 10/16/24 21:08:50 in RedditSafety with a score of 1 point:

I'm not sure that's good.

I know exactly where you're coming from. Every improvement Reddit has made to the sitewide rules / content policy / acceptable use policy / sitewide enforcement / moderator code of conduct, I've been completely skeptical of.

There's an adage, "Trust, but verify". I didn't. I distrusted until verified.

The vast majority of spam — unsolicited content, unsolicited commercial communications, inauthentic engagement — has long been automatically detected and actioned by Reddit's own algorithms, using signals only Reddit's own systems have access to.

Only a few years ago, we were still relying on volunteer moderators to do a significant amount of spam detection. BotDefense was one of their cowtools. Ten years ago, it was almost all volunteer moderators efforts, across subreddits. Now the teams I work with usually only encounter spam as already-flagged, removed content.

It never should have been up to the volunteer moderators, and it might swing back to being a necessity that volunteer mods step up to handle an unbalance in the cold war shifting towards spammers - but as of this past 18 months, there are people whose whole reason for being a Reddit moderator - fighting spam - who've found that they suddenly have a great deal of free time, and have re-evaluated their priorities accordingly. They're not human cogs any longer. And that's wonderful.

At 10/17/24 09:46:09 in u_Bardfinn with a score of yall:

"It's not enough to point out a fire. Someone has to put it out. Someone has to think it's their job to."

― Dan Kaminsky

At 10/16/24 17:31:04 in RedditSafety with a score of 3 points:

They interpret CI according to the effect it has.

Most people and communities welcome the participation of /r/BestOf. SRD, they may or may not welcome the participation of.

The question comes down to,

Does SubredditX referencing SubredditY have an effect of participation that breaks SubredditY's rules, boundaries, standards — and/or Sitewide Rules.

Do SubredditX's audience and/or operators continue to reference, despite knowing that such action violates SubredditY's rules, boundaries, standards, and/or Sitewide Rules.

In general, "This is cool / awesome / super / great" isn't CI. In general, several instances of "These People …" is a red flag that CI is occurring.

There's a lot of stuff that happens on Reddit that draws legitimate, good faith commentary on it, in and out of a given community. There's also people still using this site after having been kicked off it over a hundred times, in a spiteful crusade to harass specific groups or individuals.

There's a spectrum of such speech and actions, and there's not yet a clear, bright line between "that sucks" and speech acts that have the effect of reasonably causing someone or some group to cease using the service - but it's clearer and brighter now than it was a decade ago.

At 10/17/24 11:41:29 in ModSupport with a score of 2 points:

I run the Ban Appeals on a bunch of subreddits I moderate on.

I handle it by having a written ban appeals document posted in a wiki, which outlines exactly what they need to do to appeal their ban, noting that bans aren't permanent, just indefinite - until the banned person chooses to make the effort to rejoin the community on the community's terms.

I also have a macro for modmail that directs banned users to the ban appeals document.

At 10/17/24 11:44:33 in Frickthealtright with a score of 2 points:

They have a point. Leave faked tweets to the other guys.

At 10/17/24 13:20:26 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 4 points:

There's no remedy. There's a stack of case law about how no one can deduce or infer or reconstruct the contents of ballots. There's no backup, no error correction coding, no checksums, no hamming codes that let mathematicians sudoku solve for the contents of lost ballots. Once they're destroyed, they're gone forever.

At 10/17/24 16:05:32 in conservativeterrorism with a score of 2 points:

Shamelessly

I am certain you do not wish to argue that several years ago you assaulted me at Tanglewood Forest. Several of your fellow company members have chased me and thwapped me with Amtgard -legal boffer weapons on Company Road while I was making announcements on behalf of Kingdom Officers.

Snapshots:

https://old.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/f8y9nx/spring_forward_into_reddits_2019_transparency/fiosz3y/?context=8:

• undelete.pullpush.io

• ghostarchive.org

• archive.org

• archive.ph (click to archive)

/r/AgainstHateSubreddits:

• undelete.pullpush.io

• ghostarchive.org

• archive.org

• archive.ph (click to archive)