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Bard spotting on Bluesky 22 January 2025 
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Aaron Ross Powell (@aaronrosspowell.com):
The rise of Curtis Yarvin is a good example of the value of expertise and the problems when it's dismissed. People with philosophy and history training recognize him as an intellectual fraud. But he was able to convince enough VCs and software engineers who didn't have the chops to see his errors.
The Compiler (@sixnein.bsky.social):
Software engineers should have received enough training in logic to be able to spot frauds. Fallacies or logical errors are the glue of the arguments of grifters.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Software engineers often just get the latitude to try a new iteration until the bugs are squashed, and work with a team where many eyes find bugs faster. Translating that paradigm to politics means they're all subject to normalisation bias because it's not a bug, it's a feature.
The Compiler (@sixnein.bsky.social):
You can sum up any profession this way, e.g., a writer goes through iterations with editors to quash errors.
Also note a software engineer in my view is someone with a background in computer science. It's not say a tech bro who was born rich and bought into a company in early rounds.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I used to code (I still do, but I used to, too) and managed coders circa 1999-2001. But even the coders I worked with who wrote their code in pen in octal on a punchcard tablature notepad were unable to translate Logic and Reason and Here Is A Fallacy from coding to politics.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
A lot of truly skilled hackers I knew in the late 80's & early 90's were still unable or unwilling to grasp "women aren't idiots or lesser", or to not break into other people's systems without permission
The Compiler (@sixnein.bsky.social):
The old school software engineers were mostly mathematicians and they belonged to a number of different camps. The people you speak of would have probably been called script kiddies.
The Compiler (@sixnein.bsky.social):
They were a unique bunch of people even all the way back to the Jon Von Numan days when the Standard president was bitching about his engineers soaking up the sodas. But I never knew them to be in the bigot community. Some of this shit is from handing a degree to everyone.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
To put it a different way: it took approximately thirty years — a generation — for germ theory to become widely accepted and the minimum standard of medical care.
It took two generations for people to widely quit tobacco use. There's a whole generation affected by TEL.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It is extraordinarily difficult to persuade people of subtle danger
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The dark side of TIMTOWTDI
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And "Code is Law"
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CS programs considered harmful
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