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EFFORTPOST The Military Dictatorship of Chile Part 2 - Golpe de Estado :marseyflagchile:

Greetings dramatards :marseywave2:

A Country in Turmoil

It's time for the part 2 of our story. Taking from last post, Salvador Allende is the President of Chile and in 1971 the Unidad Popular got big wins on the municipal elections (getting 49% of the popular vote), however because Allende and the commies activated the money printer :marseybux: inflation skyrocketed in Chile leading to a stronger opposition.

As mentioned in the other post, General Viaux along members of the right-wing paramilitary group "Patria y Libertad" and CIA glowies assassinated the commander of the army, General René Schneider.

The so-called "Schneider Doctrine" was a non-intervention principle by which the Armed Forces were to remain loyal to the constitutional order. The Chilean Armed Forces are composed by 3 branches, the army :marseysalutearmy:, the navy :marseysailor:, and the Air Force :marseyjetfighter:. Then you have the "Carabineros de Chile", the carabineros are the National Police but they're highly militarized and more akin to the French "Gendarmerie"

After taking office in 1970, Allende appointed General Carlos Prats as the new head of the army.

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General Prats was a fierce adept of the Schneider Doctrince.

In terms of the economy the currency reserves of Chile went from 394 million dollars in 1970 to 163 million dollars in 1971. In terms of trade the balance went from a surplus of 95 million dollars to a deficit of 90 million dollars after an abrupt fall in copper prices (Chile's main export abroad).

The raising of wages along the freezing of prices led to shortages of good, and by 1971 a black market had risen.

By 1973 the amount of money circulating rose from 173% in 1972 to 413%. Inflation went from 225% in 1972 and reached 606% in 1973. On the streets violent clashes occurred between sympathizers of Allende and the Unidad Popular and right-wingers/other members of the opposition.

The government blamed shortages on sabotaging by enemies of the people, however even unions engaged and benefited from the black market activities. They would oftentimes charge their remunerations in goods so they could trade them in the black market. Very wholesome and stable government :marseywholesome:

By 1972 the government created the "Junta de Abastecimientos y Precios", which were local "people's" committees to deliver basic food goods and combat the shortages.

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A pic from the breadlines :marseycomrade:

On October 9th 1972 the National Confederacy of Trucker's Owners went on a strike along with other trucker's associations. They had the backing of newspapers like "El Mercurio" (known conservative newspaper) and our glowie friends :marseycia:

On October 10th the government responded by arresting the truckers leaders, by October 12th the truckers responded by blocking the main roads of the country which led Allende to declare a National Emergency. By October 13th some 300 people had been arrested all over the country. In the following days other organizations joined the strike, among them the Confederation of Commerce and Production, the Confederation of Small Industry, the Association of minibuses drivers, the association of taxi drivers. By October 17th they were joined by the Medical Association of Chile (basically all doctors), the Federation of High School students of Santiago and all the Lawyers, engineers, and dentistry organizations. Then port workers, pilots, teachers, by October 18th the country was completely paralyzed.

The associations formed the "National Command" and published their demands on "El Mercurio", they asked for the end of nationalizations, end of expropriations, restitution of expropriated property, end of radio censorship and limiting the President's powers. The strike peaked on October 24th, a day known as "Día del Silêncio",

During the strike, 2 truckers, one soldier and a worker are killed.

The strike ended on November 5th after Allende appointed members of the Armed Forces to cabinet. Carlos Prats took over as Minister of the Interior, Rear Admiral Ismael Huerta as Minister of Public Works and General Sepúlveda as Minister of Mining. This cabinet lasted up to the midterm elections of march 1973 where the Unidad Popular got 44% of the votes vs 55% of the Confederacy for Democracy (all opposition parties ranging from the PDC to rightoids together).

By 1973 Allende tried to re-aproach the PDC, however Eduardo Frei Montalva and Patricio Aylwin demanded military ministers which would have left the UP out of too many ministries.

By April 17th 1973 a miners strike began at "El Teniente" triggering street violence and lasting for 74 days. By 1973 over 100 people had been killed because of political violence. There was a risk of Civil War by then. Meanwhile the Coup d'Etat was already being planned by the high command of the Chilean Navy.

On June 27th 1973, General Prats was being driven through an intersection in the fancy neighborhood of "Las Condes" in Santiago when his car was approached by a red Renault. The people inside the car begin to insult Prats who was paranoid about what happened to Schneider 3 years earlier. So Prats took his gun and told them to stop, they didn't so Prats opened the window and shot the Renault :marseymagdump:. Both cars stopped and the driver was a woman accompanied by her young nephew, a crowd then surrounded Prats, he apologized and everyone begin to insult him and threaten him. They proceeded to break his car apart and flatten his tires, a taxi driver passed by took Prats away, told him to get in or he would be lynched. On that same day Prats went to Allende's office and presented his resignation. On June 29th however a coup attempt happened when Lt. Colonel Roberto Souper rebelled along his regiment. The attempt known as "Tanquetazo" was quelled by Prats himself. 22 people died.

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By mid 1973 the Soviet Union was supposed to send weapons to Chile as part of an agreement with Allende, however they decided not too as they could see the writing on the wall, Allende wasn't going to make it so the Russians didn't want to risk arming rightoids.

On the Other front there was an institutional crisis going on. The mayors of the Unidad Popular along the central government were carrying out nationalizations and expropriations based on laws passed by a failed socialist regime in Chile which lasted for a few months in 1932.

By 1972 the courts were ruling against the expropriation as unlawful and unconstitutional. Between January and May 1973 the Supreme Court passed a number of resolutions asking the government to comply with the laws and abide by the courts instead of ignoring them, citing a constitutional breakdown.

presenting to the President for "the umpteenth time the illegal attitude of the administrative authority in the illicit interference in judicial matters

The government goons replied with a campaign calling judges "viejos de mierda" (old shits).

Prats took over as Minister of Defense on August 9th. On August 21st in front of Prats house a crowd of angry military wives gathered to protest. On that afternoon Allende along his ministers and Prats second in command, General Augusto Pinochet, arrive in place to show their support. The crowd proceeds to boo them all. By August 23rd Prats resigns. He recommends Allende to appoint Augusto Pinochet Ugarte, a longtime apolitical officer with no affiliations, as new head of the army.

On August 22nd the Chamber of Deputies of Chile passed a resolution of the Institutional and Legal Breakdown of Chile. This resolution accused the government of totalitarian practices, ignoring the courts and attempting against basic liberties. They called upon the Armed Forces to act. The Medical Association also signed a letter demanding Allende's resignation.

In the Navy almost everyone in the upper echelons was part of the coup's conspiracy. A similar phenomenon in the Air Force except for General César Ruíz, the head of the branch. However after Allende appointed him as Minister of Public Works and Transportation, General Gustavo Leigh, a plottist, became the new head of the Air Force. In the Carabineros (Police) General César Mendoza was part of the conspiracy. The wild card was Pinochet.

In September 7th Admiral Merino sent a letter to Leigh and Pinochet asking them to dispose their forces on September 11th at 6:00am in Valparaíso.

Augusto Pinochet

Augusto Pinochet was born on November 25, 1915, in Valparaíso, Chile, to Augusto Pinochet Vera and Avelina Ugarte Martínez. He grew up in a middle-class family in a port city that was then a cultural and commercial hub. Pinochet was the eldest of six children and was raised in a devout Catholic household, which instilled in him a sense of discipline and hierarchy that would shape his later military career.

In 1933, Pinochet enrolled at the Chilean Military School, where he demonstrated a strong sense of ambition but was not particularly distinguished academically. After graduating in 1937 as a second lieutenant, he began a slow ascent through the ranks of the Chilean Army. Over the years, he developed a reputation as a competent and methodical officer, although he remained relatively unknown outside military circles.

During the 1940s and 1950s, Pinochet served in various units across Chile, gaining experience in different terrains and military operations. He married Lucía Hiriart Rodríguez in 1943, and the couple would go on to have five children. His family life was characterized by Lucía's strong influence on his personal and political decisions.

Pinochet's career advanced during the 1960s, a time when Chile was undergoing significant political and social changes. He continued his education by attending the War Academy, where he specialized in military strategy and geopolitics. By the mid-1960s, Pinochet had become a professor at the academy, known for his lectures on counterinsurgency, reflecting the military's growing focus on internal security during the Cold War. His academic contributions included a strong emphasis on maintaining order and combating Marxist ideologies, which were gaining traction in Chile and across Latin America.

In 1968, Pinochet was promoted to brigadier general, a significant milestone in his career. He was posted to various key roles, including commanding units in Chile's north and south. His administrative skills and ability to maintain strict discipline earned him recognition among his peers, though he remained apolitical, rarely voicing opinions on the country's political turmoil.

At this point in 1973, Pinochet's public image remained that of a quiet, professional soldier. Few suspected that within weeks, he would become the leader of a coup that would overthrow Allende's government and mark the beginning of his nearly 17-year rule as the head of a military dictatorship.

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THE COUP

Pinochet took 2 days until he replied to Merino that he was in. There's some irony on this famous tyrant becoming a dictator by chance, he wasn't even part of the conspiracy up until a few days before as they didn't know if he could be trusted. On September 9th Allende announced a plebiscite to solve the institutional crisis, but it was pretty much too late.

On September 10th Pinochet sent his family away to the South near the border with Argentina, in case they needed to escape.

In the early hours of September 11, 1973, military units began mobilizing across Chile. Communication networks and transportation hubs were placed under surveillance or neutralized. Key military figures, including Pinochet and Merino, coordinated from secure locations, ensuring that their forces were synchronized. The coup's success depended on swift control of Santiago, the nation's capital, where La Moneda Palace, the seat of government, symbolized Allende's authority.

At approximately 6:00 a.m., the coup began in earnest. Army units in Santiago and other cities occupied key military installations, broadcast stations, and transportation hubs. The Navy took control of Valparaíso, Chile's main port city, ensuring that reinforcements or communications from outside the country could not interfere. This action effectively isolated Chile diplomatically and physically.

One of the earliest moves was the seizure of radio and television stations, which were critical for controlling the narrative. Military forces occupied Radio Agricultura and other major broadcasters, replacing regular programming with martial music and announcements. At 7:00 a.m., a public declaration by the military junta was broadcast, announcing their intent to "restore order" and accusing Allende of undermining democracy. This marked the first public acknowledgment of the coup and was designed to disorient Allende's supporters.

Simultaneously, troops began moving toward critical infrastructure in Santiago, including airports, bridges, and major roadways. By 8:00 a.m., the military had effectively paralyzed the city, cutting off avenues for resistance or escape. These early operations ensured that opposition forces were unable to mobilize effectively, granting the coup leaders uncontested control over Santiago's strategic points.

La Moneda Palace became the focal point of the coup as Salvador Allende and his closest aides barricaded themselves inside. By 7:30 a.m., Allende had arrived at the palace, determined to resist the military's demands for his resignation. Armed with a small contingent of loyal security personnel and a few supporters, Allende rejected offers of safe passage out of the country, declaring that he would defend his presidency to the end.

The military issued an ultimatum to Allende at approximately 8:30 a.m., demanding that he surrender unconditionally. Allende refused, famously addressing the nation via Radio Magallanes around 9:10 a.m., in what would become his final speech. In his broadcast, Allende reaffirmed his commitment to the Chilean people, denouncing the coup as a betrayal of democracy and a tool of foreign imperialism.

By mid-morning, tanks and infantry units surrounded La Moneda, cutting off all access to and from the palace. Snipers were positioned on rooftops, while artillery was prepared to breach the building's defenses. The Air Force contributed by deploying fighter jets, a decisive move that underscored the junta's overwhelming firepower.

At 11:00 a.m., after another ultimatum was ignored, the military began bombarding La Moneda with heavy artillery. Hawker Hunter fighter jets strafed the palace, delivering precision strikes that caused significant damage. The psychological effect of the airstrikes was immense, as the explosions reverberated across the city, signaling the coup's seriousness and ruthlessness.

The Fall of La Moneda

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By noon, La Moneda was engulfed in smoke and flames. The small contingent inside, including Allende, was running out of ammunition and options. The military intensified its assault, with ground forces breaching the palace's lower levels. Despite the hopeless situation, Allende refused to surrender. Around 1:30 p.m., with the palace in ruins and his presidency effectively over, Allende reportedly took his own life with an AK-47 rifle gifted to him by Fidel Castro.

:#marseygunshotsuicide:

The military secured La Moneda shortly after 2:00 p.m., raising the junta's flag over the smoldering ruins. Troops conducted a sweep of the building, detaining any survivors and seizing documents. The junta immediately announced that Allende was dead, framing his death as a suicide to delegitimize any potential martyrdom or rallying cry for resistance.

While the siege of La Moneda dominated the events in Santiago, the military worked to consolidate power across the country. In major cities like Valparaíso, Concepción, and Antostragasta, military units detained leftist political leaders, trade unionists, and suspected supporters of Allende's Popular Unity coalition. By the afternoon, stadiums, schools, and other large facilities were repurposed as detention centers, where thousands of individuals were interrogated, tortured, or executed.

The military junta issued decrees banning political parties, unions, and public assemblies. A curfew was declared, and military patrols roamed the streets, enforcing martial law. The use of propaganda continued, with radio broadcasts proclaiming the success of the coup and the beginning of a "new era" for Chile. By the end of the afternoon, resistance had been effectively crushed, and the junta was in full control of the country.

The new Junta de Gobierno was composed by Augusto Pinochet, Gustavo Leigh, Tobías Merino, and César Mendoza. With Congress closed now they ruled Chile becoming effectively the executive and legislative power.

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So begins the Dictatorship

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!historychads !anticommunists !neolibs

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  • FriedFish : we already had like two popular posts on it when it happened dumb r-slur b-word
  • COAL_IS_A_CHOICE : @FriedFish but we didn't have a post about it from @kaamrev


https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/new-zealand-navy-ship-sank-due-human-error-inquiry-finds-2024-11-29/

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SYDNEY, Nov 29 (Reuters) - A Royal New Zealand Navy vessel ran aground and sank off the coast of Samoa last month as a result of human error, a government-initiated inquiry found on Friday.

HMNZS Manawanui, the navy's specialist dive and hydrographic vessel, grounded on a reef on the southern side of Samoa, on Oct. 5 while conducting survey operations. All 75 crew members on board survived.

"The direct cause of the grounding has been determined as a series of human errors which meant the ship's autopilot was not disengaged when it should have been," the head of New Zealand's Navy Rear Admiral Gavin Golding said in a statement on Friday.

he crew did not realise the ship remained in autopilot and consequently thought its failure to respond to direction changes was the result of a thruster control failure.

The reasons why the crew failed to notice the error would be part of a wider inquiry expected to be completed in the first quarter of next year, Golding said. :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy:

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https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/11/29/navy-human-error-caused-manawanui-sinking-disciplinary-process-to-follow/

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Disciplinary process to commence

Golding said that because human error was identified as the cause, a separate disciplinary process would need to begin once the Court of Inquiry had concluded.

The process would look at the officer in control of the ship, the supervising officer on the bridge, and the commanding officer of the Manawanui. :marseychainsmoker: :marseychainsmoker: :marseychainsmoker:

He said there were a number of other contributing factors leading to the grounding, which would be considered in more detail during phase two of the inquiry. These include training, planning, supervision, readiness, and risk assessment.

"To provide some immediate assurance, we have conducted a series of audits in the Fleet and looked to implement initial lessons identified from the interim report around training, risk management, and improving relevant orders, instructions and procedures," he said.

Speaking to media today, Defence Minister Judith Collins reacted to the report, saying: "I think we're all terribly disappointed by what happened and why it happened". :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed:

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The vessel's sinking raised concerns about damage to the local environment, with many worried that leaking fuel could taint their food source.

The ship was carrying around 950 tonnes of diesel, and earlier this month, local authorities said about 200,000 litres of fuel had leaked from the sunken wreckage.

Golding told media there was still a "persistent slow leak" coming from the Manawanui.

"We monitor it each day with our divers that are in place."

He said compensation for locals was a matter for the Samoan government but said the Defence Force was supporting Samoa in the process. [ :marseyxd: :marseyxd: :marseyxd: :marseyxd: :marseyxd: not our problem abos]

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"I want to reassure the public of New Zealand that we will learn from this situation and that it is on me, as the Chief of Navy, to earn back your trust.

"We have incredible people within our Defence Force who answer the call to serve every day. Much of their work is risky and involves decisions that can mean life or death. No one turns up to work to have a bad day.

[You lost a fricking warvessel to grounding you motherlover dumb frick :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: ]


I made a post about this!! :marseytrad: :marseywomanmoment: :marseywomanmoment2: :marseydarkfoidretard:

https://rdrama.net/post/306239/royal-new-zealand-navy-loses-first

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EFFORTPOST Carp Meets Bitcoin

I was asked for a "Bitcoin Redpill."

Where to begin?


Money.

Money is fabricated by the State.

The State controls the supply of Money. This is true whether or not there is a bank managed directly by the United States Federal Government. (The Federal Reserve.)

Now there are people who are Bitcoin fanatics.

There are people who are Trump fanatics

There are people who are Yudkowsky fanatics.

A reputation doesn't have to be deserved. It generally is deserved, in fact. (Believe Women.) (Not All Women.)

Bitcoin's price can be manipulated by anyone with enough real money to buy a lot of it, driving up the price, or sell a lot of it, buying down the price.

At this moment the United States Government could sell its Bitcoin. In this way it has power over the market.

There are too many false beliefs in the dO - G - M A of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is intended to be a libertarian's escape from the state's control over money. Unregulated markets are worse than regulated markets. Even regulated markets can't avoid capitalism's boom-bust cycle which is essentially just a continuation of the logical exponential-rise exponential-fall dynamic of nature itself. (the problem with capitalism is Capitalism: the capitalist ideology which obscures the truth of our situation from one another as one of the Boomer Mind Fogs: confusion in our politics owing to the Boomer Ideological Apparatus continuing to operate far past its useful functioning. We can't keep relitigating Communism the straw man and Capitalism the straw man because that's Cold War thinking.)

(leftists who are capable of working within the system tend to be socialist at best: committed to a firm public good, the funding of a better and more aesthetic life for our children through taxation.)

(Rich people view the state as a competitor when they should look at it as prey to a predator. Oh. They do look at it with that fear, that's why they want their man or woman on the government face.)

Point is Bitcoin poses no threat to any sort of world order because at its _best_ it's just Money, again, but with significantly more weaknesses and the weird strength of being Internet Money which just makes it more easily communicated as a fanatic point.

See like many god-darn self-righteous leftists, the crusade of Bitcoin isn't objectionable by premise. "Trans people should be allowed to do what they like with their bodies" is reasonable to most reasonable Americans. It makes our society more cyberpunky that drug deals are done with online money. There is nothing stopping the US Government from subpoenaing Coinbase. If you're a suspect of interest they will find the transaction point at which you purchased the Bitcoin with USD because the US Government _created_ USD! In this occult sense the US Government will always be capable of _finding where it goes_ because... it has to turn up somewhere, right? Coinbase has to tax it, account for it, whatever.

In this regard, Bitcoin is credibly a success. Drug deals.

But the crusade is about overturning the financial system to establish a new financial world order, and this is an incoherent concept because money only exists to further the interests of the state which prints it. Duh. (Rich people are merely servitors of the State.)

No state controls Bitcoin, so it's a money that any government can control simply by buying and selling it with real money.

It's like if we allowed Russia to print or remove USD from our economy and had no choice over the matter!

This would make Bitcoin an interesting failure.


Bitcoin is a speculative asset. It compares, then, to the model of a stock market: it has a price, which fluxuates.

But a _stock_ has inherent value.

STOCKS

PRINT

DIVIDENDS

You get money from a stock, like a little trustworthy cow you can milk, and you are now, if you own a stock, an investor: on your way to financial stability.

THIS

IS

COMMUNISM

The good kind: collective ownership of the public corporation.

all corporations should be publicly owned. end private ownership of corporations.

(The problem we face right now is wealth inequality. To reduce wealth inequality, take away the money from the rich people because they failed and the money doesn't belong to them it belongs to the state.

so you watch as the cabinet is filled with rich people

and the "isolationists" immediately think of war in Mexico

everyone over 65 out of government


Bitcoin prints nothing. It's a speculative asset without any inherent value. Gold is beautiful. Bitcoin is interesting, but valueless.

Because what has happened is a stupid rich person decided to try to control Bitcoin's price and drive it up. Without his support, Bitcoin would likely have crashed already.

Because Bitcoin will only ever be a speculative asset, it will be perpetually captive to an especially harsh and voracious boom-bust cycle. Because it does not print dividends, it's strictly speaking worse than having your money in the Stock Market.

Because Bitcoin's price is tied to the flow of money into Bitcoin, it must follow normal market cycles. It can neither cause a bust or be busted by the market itself. It is simply part of the market, and rises and falls with the market.

The stockmarket is overvalued. Inflation will return with tariffs. We just decided to put an old man back into power despite the clear evidence that this is just a bad idea which will lead to more people in the United States dead, not because any of us want it, but because the violence spiral which has passed through Trump (and therefore must be stopped at Trump) is only intensifying.

Vance is a reasonable compromise but it should happen soon. After the market has crashed.

I hope to God Biden drops Bitcoin just to make a point. Did you hear about that? Bitcoin confiscated by the US Government has passed to a wallet which can sell on Coinbase.

At any point Biden himself can drop the price of Bitcoin. I hope he does it. I hope he pardons Luigi. The longer Trump is headed towards the presidency, the more dangerous it will become. Be peaceful! God loves you!


:#marseyglow: :#marseyshrug:

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EFFORTPOST The time Jordan Peterson did a Reddit AMA

So, in case you need some contextualization, Jordan Peterson was born in Alberta, Canada and he earned his PhD in psychology from McGill University. It's important to note that Peterson is prolific in his field, and he has over a hundred papers published covering topics such as addiction, play, and personality.

Peterson taught at Howard University before returning to Canada to teach at the University of Toronto. It's interesting to note that during this time, Jordan Peterson began to change. He became more intense, more politically involved, and many of his friends noted this.

The professor rose to fame after protesting Bill C-16 and claiming that it legislated compelled speech and forced him to refer to transpeople using their preferred pronouns. Since then, many have debunked JP's concerns and have pointed out that absolutely nobody has been imprisoned as a consequence of Bill C-16. In modern day, JP is still fairly popular and he enjoys a strong following, as seen with the sales of his latest book, We Who Wrestle With God.

In 2018, Jordan Peterson was arguably at the peak of his fame, and he had yet to be completely demonized online. Consequently, he took to Reddit to host an AMA. It's actually quite a funny one because it highlights the main problem with JP - while he has some insightful advice to give regarding his core field (psychology), he exposes areas of ignorance when he delves into other topics he is not an expert on. He has a tendency to read obscure esoteric texts and to latch onto fringe ideas merely because they are interesting. He has also demonstrated that he is not the best when it comes to interpreting scientific papers and reaching logical conclusions.

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Jordan Peterson's Reddit AMA

Link to the whole thing is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/

Let's off with something light. Jordan Peterson makes a statement regarding antidepressants and whether they are overprescribed. An expert in the field quickly jumps in and points out an error in JP's message. You'll see this trend of experts popping up to disprove him recur.

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Now to dive into the deep waters. Postmodern cultural marxism! JP always uses this phrase, and it seems like a highly self-contradictory one at first. He gives a definition but many point out that his definition is bullshit.

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Fricking /u/Bardfinn appears!!1!

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Jordan also touches on Nazism, arguing that it was an atheist doctrine.

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Euphoric redditors don't take too kindly to this.

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Lastly, we have the topic of "enforced monogamy" which was a controversy at the time. When asked about incels, JP recommended enforced monogamy. When talking about a murderous incel, he states:

"He was angry at God because women were rejecting him," Mr. Peterson says of the Toronto killer. "The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That's actually why monogamy emerges."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html

He is asked about this in the AMA, to which he replies with the following:

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That is not enough to placate redditors who still see a problem with what the professor is proposing.

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Conclusion

So that's all for today regarding the adventures on Jordan Peterson. You can catch him on Ben Shapiro's The Daily Wire where he teaches his fans about marriage, Christianity, and conservatism. Personally, I think JP is an intelligent man who may have stumbled into a few psychological truths. However, he is bogged down by so much political crap and tangential bullshit including religion that anyone with some sense would avoid and go seek knowledge elsewhere. There is nothing JP exclusively offers that can't be obtained elsewhere without half the amount of bullshit.

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It has been revealed that this whole mess was actually a massive unprecedented attack by both Russia and China on NATO. While other disinfo campaigns in the West happened, they were basically just a warm up for this, an overwhelming sudden attack that was supposed to completely decapitate the country and wreck the whole eastern flank of NATO (we and Poland are the main NATO allies here, so with our collapse both Poland and Ukraine would fail soon). This has been prepared for years (since 2016) and failed because these r-slurs severely overestimated the whole 'Romania is a western democracy and a member of NATO and EU' while horribly underestimating the 'Romania is a semi-autocratic eastern european shithole' part :marseytroll:

Georgescu winning with the help of some secret services (yes the conspiracy theories were right) and generals and becoming a dictator was the main part, which failed because the idea of a democratic state cancelling elections while people were voting was preposterous (too bad nobody here cares about democracy). The backup plan was to either start a violent revolution with the supporters they gathered in all these years, or to at least cause so much chaos that the whole country will become ungovernable (too bad Romania is the laziest and most cowardly country in Eastern Europe) :angryvatnik: :marseycopeseethedilate:


The coup step by step

  • after communism we never cleaned the country and the institutions of russian agents and sympathisers, so they just waited patiently for an opportunity to strike and bring Romania back into Russia's sphere of influence

  • the attack was carried by Russia with China's help and with the contribution of some other countries (probably third world countries bot armies)

  • during the peak of the electoral campaign Georgescu :marseyhitler2: became the 9th trending topic on TikTok or something (don't use TikTok dunno how it works), and since no one really cares that much about Romania, this is proof that China was doing dumb shit with their algorithms :marseyjewoftheorient:

  • other disinfo campaigns that Russia is accused of (like Brexit) were basically tests to see how western countries react to online manipulations. Brexit is an important part here because of the whole 'you can't overturn the will of the people, so if a referendum passes you must honour it' conclusion. Russia was aware that they can't take over a western country, so they just focused on destabilising them, but they want to take over Eastern Europe, so the attack here was actually meant to be a coup and not just stirring shit for the lulz

  • this has been in the works for years, possibly since 2016; Georgescu has been living in Austria without a job all this time where he prepared for his esoteric messiah role and slowly gathered a following of conspiracy nutjobs

  • two weeks before the first elections an army of bots started to promote Georgescu everywhere on social media and especially on TikTok. Some accounts were older than the current TikTok, created when it was still only a chinese site. They got millions of people to vote for him.

  • the idea was to keep everything hidden until the elections, when Georgescu will be promoted suddenly and massively, and by the time the authorities will realize something is wrong he will have already won the first voting round, at which point no one would dare to do anything against 'the will of the people' (that part worked)

  • (at this point our secret services actually realized something is very funky and asked NATO for help without anyone knowing it)

  • the mysterious recount happened because the number of votes given to each candidate didn't match the votes that were presented on the election website and the authorities were worried that Russia somehow managed to get involved in the election process, but apparently they just hacked the website to mess with the numbers? :marseyhmmm:

  • anyway, since everything was fine, the first round of the elections was validated and the election season continued while multiple secret services, both ours and foreign were taking notes :marseyfedpostglow:

  • other weird things happened in the first voting session, like lots of ballots reaching the voting booths being already pre-stamped for Georgescu, but people assumed incompetency rather than foul play

  • well, it turns out that a big part of our authorities, from secret service agents to politicians to cops and army officials, tried to stage a soft coup and manipulate the elections to get Georgescu :marseyhitler2: elected as president (and his other :marseyauthright: friends into the parliament). They tried to hide evidence from their colleagues, tripped up their investigations when they noticed something was wrong, distracted people, lied etc. The only reason they didn't succeed was because someone was smart enough to notify Burgerland first and only then tried to sort through all this mess :marseybigbrain:

  • when they noticed the scale of the infiltration, the heads of some secret services tried to resign in shame but our president didn't accept because everything was already too chaotic and destabilised

  • NATO came up with the 'cancel the elections' plan which was supposed to be a last resort if everything else failed

  • two days before the last election round, when the diaspora was already queued up to vote (and a few hundred people already did), the elections were finally cancelled. Coup effectively ended :lelolidk:

  • surprisingly, despite being a corrupt shithole and despite all this chaos, we survived what is now described to be the worse hybrid attack on a NATO/EU country :marseyletsgo:

  • (but seriously, imagine the russian guys responsible for this. People were already voting, no democracy will ever do anything to disturb the voting process at this point, all pieces were in place, your agent was two steps away from winning. All these years of work will pay off handsomely. This was supposed to be the first type of all hands on deck attack and it was a resounding success, one NATO country down, Ukraine finished, whatever else... And then, casually and without hesitation the elections were cancelled and everyone was told to go back home. And there's nothing you can do to save your hard work from being trampled :marseylaughpoundfist: )

Funny detail. That burger plane I mentioned in my last post? The elections were cancelled just 40 minutes after it landed and most of that time was spent in traffic not in some meeting room :marseylaugh: Anyway, before that Merica also sent some specialists or something during these deranged weeks (and probably some CIA agents). Possibly the reason why the coup stated to progressively falter, there's one thing to fight our own secret services, a whole different thing to do this with CIA breathing down your neck :marseysaluteusa: Still, I have to give credit to our own (non-traitor) intelligence agents too, they fought with all they have and did their job well and managed to drag us all away from the cliff's edge :marseyclapping:

Yesterday evening, or night, another murican plane landed in Bucharest, probably to help us with the potential upcoming civil unrest and violence that will totes happen just because Putin wants it :marseysmug:


The 'revolution'

Since Russia is a slav country surrounded by other slav and muslim countries they dumbly assumed that all these people that were convinced to vote for Georgescu :marseyhitler2: would also be willing to get beaten up by the cops for him. Clearly they have no idea what country they're messing with :marseygiggle:

  • obviously, all his supporters (and bots) were wiped into a frenzy because of the now lost elections, screaming about rights and democracy and fascism and communism and whatever :marseyraging:

  • on top of all this anger came some weird conspiracy theories: Biden wants to use Romania to drag NATO into war in order to remain a dictator forever, Moldova declared war on Transnistria and we'll join them with our army overnight, the state will start rounding up men to send them to Ukraine, martial law will be declared so our president will become a dictator etc. Anyway, lots of scary shit and these morons actually believed it :marseybrainlet:

  • a huge mass of angry and scared people are the perfect recipe for a nasty protest right? Add our actual nazi groups (armed and trained militias) and some mercenaries usually fighting in third world shitholes joining in and you get an actual revolution :marseyclueless:

  • yesterday, the funniest shit happened, and that was the last part of this plan, the final moment before the bloodshed will start. Georgescu :marseyhitler2: appeared in some livestream and said to his supporters that the elections weren't actually cancelled, because in some purely freeman of the land fashion, the decree from the Constitutional Court wasn't signed properly and wasn't published on their site therefore it's not an actual binding declaration. In fact, the globalist state is lying to them all, the elections still happen normally, just that his supporters are tricked to stay at home so he can lose the elections. So, they must all still go and vote.

  • the idea here was: hundreds if not thousands of people gather in the streets to vote, they can't vote because the elections are cancelled, they get angry and the police (already tense due to the whole coup thing) panic and start beating up people, the nazis then jump to defend them with guns and swords and everything descends into violence

:mar#seyputin:


The actual results?

...a huge army of supporters have gathered to to vote for Goergescu! Fear them! :marseyrise:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336693333326604.webp

(notice that messed up flag)

  • 20 in the country

  • 100 at Viena

  • 30 at Paris and Rome

They seem more confused than angry... yeah civil wars aren't exactly our thing... :tayshrug:

In the meantime, all the hardcore nazis that came to Bucharest to fight the police were arrested before crossing into the capital :marseyfluffy: As soon as the elections were cancelled the cops descended on all the known nazis (both the infamous ones and new r-slurs that posted threats on TikTok after Georgescu's :marseyhitler2: rise to fame). They confiscated lots of weapons (mostly knives and swords because guns are rare here). And the ones that managed to hide have been caught now.

Even some actual militias tried to join. We have a relatively large number of mercenaries fighting in Africa and the Middle East for some reason (large for a balkan shithole that had nothing to do ever with other continents anyway). Some leader active in Congo has been arrested for trying to bring 'dozens of weapons, two guns and lots of explosives' into Bucharest during the night.

Here's the badass action hero guy:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336693342552927.webp

And here is him obediently following the cops to the police station:

So, the whole thing was a massive failure and a huge waste of money, resources and time for Russia :marseysmug2: The authorities are still in high alert for tonight, but it seems that the worst has passed :marseyjam: To our surprise, and delight, America reacted immediately when we called for help and held our hand throughout all this nightmare :marseyblush:


Best part for the last :marseyexcited: In the most embarrassing turns of events ever our presidential candidates decided to all send love letters to Trump for frick knows what reason :marseypaperbag:

First our nazi russian agent

Then his gypsy nazi friend

And then our LGBT Soros feminazi candidate

I literally never felt such a bone deep second hand embarrassment since middle school :marseycringe: The only parties who didn't pull such an r-slured move were our status quo parties and I think I'll vote for them next elections because they're the only ones who understand how diplomacy works in the first place :marseyfacepalm:


All in all, EU is pissed, NATO is worried, after all if such a hidden network existed here then other similar networks could be planted for other countries, all waiting to be activated at the right moment, and according to some diplomats even Trump is pissed. I mean, imagine starting your presidency with all sorts of ideas for your country's problems only to have to sort through multiple eastern european conflicts because Russia can't keep it's hand to itself :marseyunamused:

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4cope thread that will be deleted soon and has jannies comments: https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/696433012

Archived thread: https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/696433012

Mexicans on leddit react: https://old.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/1h7mje6/street_fighter_6_mai_teaser_trailer/

KiNeurodivergents chudlebrate: https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1h8l9sr/while_some_western_studios_are_struggling_to_keep/


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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185129670856.webp

So she is the peak fanservice fighting character character that has an exposed fat butt in a 2024 video game, but are /v/irgins happy?


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185131279845.webp

:#marseyitsallsotiresome: these neighbors will never be satisfied with anything


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185132211328.webp

:#!hesrightyouknow:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185132639596.webp

:#chadno: https://i.rdrama.net/images/17016226881468322.webp Mai has the most BBC anal-coded butt in vidya history https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733102383126777.webp


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185133199356.webp

:#speechbubble:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17333680936371212.webp


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https://preview.redd.it/boy-i-love-m-e-t-h-v0-cxroud9sey9d1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b8eb74837414827f50d1afdc710bf58473875681


Anyways, time to talk about the duality of the nu-4cuck:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618513458057.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618513516026.webp

https://media.tenor.com/7OiU3LE-RPAAAAAM/barack-obama-what-the.gif

Is this game globohomo jewish chad DEI poz wokeBIPOC shit or based gigachud hentaiGOD anti-woke aryan gemstone? :marseyconfused2:


Either way, some anons appear to have unveiled the reason behind so many AAA games going woke these days! :marseydetective:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185135764809.webp

:#marseytunaktunakinvasion: :#marseydarkxd:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185150036054.webp

:#marseyindiarentfree:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185151045299.webp

:#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke:


Either way, since this is a thread about 4cuck reacting to Mai Shitranui, and not about the character herself, then I would prefer to spoil my effortpost talking about the background of the most famous PAAG in vidya history!

https://preview.redd.it/1pal0v8kz45e1.png?width=780&format=png&auto=webp&s=400f677308a5a7a495db89b747a9d7646877da91 https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185151459613.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/173361851557899.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618516697506.webp

Also reminder that in 1994 there was a KoF anime where they fricking drew Mai's anus! :marseydarkxd: :!marseykneel: :marseychingchongsupremacy: :vegetakneel:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136844258959.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841368449772596.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841368457753625.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841368464189255.webp

And here is a rare deleted scene showing her tits while she was showering, as a response to the most famous scene in SF anime history where Chun-li does the same:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841368470626113.webp https://i.redd.it/v5gti7pkej3a1.gif

Either way, the history of Mai Shiranui:

Mai Shiranui is a certified and fact-checked ricebunny PAAG coal burner mudshark BIPOClover built for the most vantablack darkest BIPOCcoal sub-saharan African mandingo BIPOC BBC, they should change the name of the game to King of BIPOClovers, or Fatal BIPOC, or BIPOC Fighter 6, because of how much BVILT for the most vantablack BIPOCcoal sub-saharan African BIPOC BBC its ricebunnies are!, Mai Shiranui is BVILT for the most vantablack BIPOCcoal sub-saharan African BIPOC mandingo Congolese BBCs, she is THE biggest mudshark BIPOClover coal burner in vidya history, it is astounding how tiny-peepeeed Japs were able to handcraft and make character designs that screams "I FRICK BIPOCS!" more than that, her perfect coal burner butt coded for BIPOC anal, her exposing mudshark tits.... frick, it is unbelievable how much they intentionally made her look like a peak BIPOClover, not even the most BBC-obsessed Amerimutt would have come up with such explicit and perfect Ricebunny design that is undeniably coded for s*x with sweaty African Nigerian African migrants, I love when Mai get creampied by the most vantablack dark BIPOCcoal Sub-Saharan African BIPOC Congolese BBC, Imagine the most gorilla looking mandingo BIPOC you ever saw, blackest gorilla BIPOC ever, big, dumb, and sweaty with a meaty BBC tittyfricking this slut and spraying his load all over her. Making them lick the remains from his BBC and then he takes these whores and shoves his meat inside their kitties and pumps them for an hour before he roars a jungle gorilla roar after he empties his balls inside them and lets his Mandingo seed fertilize their BIPOC-bearing wombs. Then he keeps them as his personal cumsluts were their lips are sealed to his BBC. Their bodies craving for a big, dumb, and violent gorilla BIPOC who will create BNWO with his BBC. White and Asian slutty women getting bred like farm animals by big black peepees that jackhammer their fertile pink kitties like there is no tomorrow. Furthermore, I've been a union contractor for over 20 years now and I have the experience to say just by looking at those pictures without a doubt, in my expert professional opinion that, these women were constructed in such a way that they conform to the rigorous set of building codes and standards that make them not only legally but also judiciously built for BBC. They are BVILT for BBC, architected for africans, erected for ebony, stacked for black, created for coal, materialized for melanin, slave for sambo, spawned for spades, anointed for BIPOCs, shaped for apes, toned for Tyrone, custom equipped, manufactured, artisan crafted, formed by nature, smithed, created and consecrated for BBC. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185171894064.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17337656851107485.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618517509286.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618518039295.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618518598639.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336220864686272.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185191418593.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733618525845238.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185267411332.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185283854373.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17337656848502674.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17337656845680351.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17337656842565656.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185200802557.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185220928323.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185244701872.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185289940753.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185324195824.webp

That was a whole lot wasnt it? :marseysmug2:, it took me two days to write this effortpost about her history!, let me see what you think of it!

And as one last surprise, I bring to you a rare unused sprite from KOF 98:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185341727154.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17336185344092727.webp

!coomers !2dgooners !fightclub @Christmas_waifus_shill

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EFFORTPOST How Quebec cucked Canada | A historical tale of how some french incel irrevocably shat on gun rights and promoted the federal funding of a group of feral white women to shit on them more :francenice:

Mutts know that Canada is cucked in regards to gun ownership, but can't comprehend the actual context behind it. hopefully this helps :marseyjam:

A long standing political tradition in Canada is milking the shit out of events, the most potent of this is the Polytechnique Massacre (pictured below) which has cuckolded canadian gun owners for well over a third of a century at this point.

:marseyblops2#cel: :space::marseytradragin#g::marseytradragin#g::marseytradragin#g::marseytradragin#g::marseytradragin#g::marseytradragin#g:

(this isn't an exaggeration, the resembelance is uncanny https://i.rdrama.net/images/17335281171328301.webp )

The shooting itself wasn't anything spectacular. it was Today (happy anniversary, i wish he got them all!) :marseyexcited:, all the way back in 1989. Some incel (named marc le pine :marseyxd!: ) was beaten enough as a kid to get literal brain damage to the degree where they were refused from the army for being antisocial :chudspin:, after failing to flunk out of school despite no effort in his studies :marseybigbrain:. Let's check his suicide note for some content :marseyexcited:

Please note that if I commit suicide today 89-12-06 it is not for economic reasons (for I have waited until I exhausted all my financial means, even refusing jobs) but for political reasons. Because I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. For seven years life has brought me no joy and being totally blasé, I have decided to put an end to those viragos.

I tried in my youth to enter the Forces as an officer cadet, which would have allowed me possibly to get into the arsenal and precede Lortie in a raid. They refused me as [I was] asocial.

:marseybl#ops2celtalking:

Thus it is an obvious truth that if the Olympic Games removed the Men-Women distinction, there would be women only in the graceful events. So the feminists are not fighting to remove that barrier. They are so opportunistic they [do not][note 2] neglect to profit from the knowledge accumulated by men through the ages. They always try to misrepresent them every time they can. Thus, the other day, I heard they were honoring the Canadian men and women who fought at the frontline during the world wars. How can you explain [that since][note 3] women were not authorized to go to the frontline??? Will we hear of Caesar's female legions and female galley slaves who of course took up 50% of the ranks of history, though they never existed. A real Casus Belli.

:marseybetauprising#talking:

Of course, while this incel slop is innovative for the time (not really, everyone hates women), the shooting wasn't really that remarkable. It's not even the most deadly shooting in Canada, especially not nowadays. the actual impact of this is far worse: Feral white women.

And even worse: Feral french white women. Because women be crazy, and because an incel was the one shooting, Mister Mark Le Pine (:xd:) catapulted white women into relevancy. The survivors formed together like a bunch of maggots on a corpse to form PolySeSouvient, the single biggest contributor to every dogshit arbitrary gun law Canada has, up to and including reading off guns from a copy of guns and ammo to put on the list (there's a shared typo :marseyxd: )

The biggest example of this blatant foidery is Nathalie Provost, unremarkable white woman.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17335281171746511.webp

:marseyyikes: :marseyeggless:

She's the reason it's federally funded, as she's paid by the glowies to be on the gun advocacy board :marseydicklet: - of course, there's no conflict of interest here, and she can't be considered a lobbyist as she's not directly paid by the group she helped found :marseybigbrain:

Functionally every bill they've contributed to has been r-slurred in more ways than can be counted by man, with the literal only pushback being from the only group Canadians hold more dear than white women:

Heya Hoyas :marseycherokee#:

natives in this country LOVE huffing gas and LOVE gubmernemnt gibs, but the only thing they love more is god's chosen slav slop: the SKS, meaning that's probably the only gun Canadians will ever be allowed to have, which is for some reason considered less deadly than can plinkers like 22lr 5 rounders :marseyeyeroll:, thankfully the white women are on the case, and are going to carve out exemptions for our heya hoya friends :marseyletsgo: I love being a second class citizen! yipee!

To give context as to some r-slurred weapon bans that're explicitly named:

The Walther WA 2000: an 80k USD (so about 8 trillion CAD) semi auto rifle. there's only one in Canada and I don't think anyone was ever shot by one in north america :marseyxd:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733528586435119.webp

The 22LR Kriss Vector (5 round mags :marseyxd: )

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733528612683373.webp

Semi Auto Conversions of the PPSH

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17335286346963317.webp

The GSG-16

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17335283201083605.webp

And more dumb bans :marseyexcited: Keep in mind that they previously had to fit within magazine limits (10rds for pistols, 5 for rifles) and have maximum muzzle energy capped :marseyjam:

This is also on top of the mounties calling said GSG16 a semimachine gun :marseyxd:

Remember leafs! no matter how much you hate quebec and white women it isn't enough!

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The recent Destiny drama has been the gift that keeps on giving. Not only have we seen pictures of his gross peepee, video of him sucking someone else's gross peepee, and smoking gun evidence that he truly does frick every woman he associates with professionally even if he tries to be coy about it, but it also flared up a slapfight on Destiny's Kiwi Farms thread where most of these leaks first got posted, and the thread regulars had to deal with the Kiwi rank and file taking new interest in his thread.

Here we're focusing on one Kiwi Farms user by the name of Blav. He's by far the most productive poster in the Destiny thread, but he's also the most neurodivergent. His major highlights include:

  • Being the first person to really go into detail on how close Destiny got with Lauren Southern and speculate about their affair with substance, something that has now been almost certainly proven

  • Doxing the original Cuties respecter, mrgirl, by examining his videos for distinguishing house and neighborhood features, then combing through hundreds of house listings on real estate sites in his general area to find the correct address

  • Keeping logs of everyone Destiny follows on Twitter and Instagram so he can figure out who was staying at Destiny's apartment in a given week

  • Creating multiple sock puppet accounts so he could argue with himself :marseysockpuppet: :!carpsockpuppet2: because he believed Destiny was watching what he posted in the thread, and he wanted to throw off Destiny so he'd be more willing to publicly hint at his new girlfriend

  • Blocking at least a thousand people in a Groomercord server one by one because he was looking for a specific message

  • Getting bitched at by Null :marseynull: because he kept using random colors in his posts

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That's all one post, by the way.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17335210384746914.webp

Moving on to the drama in the thread. If you haven't paid attention, most of the leaked DM's and sextapes came from the same source: a Groomercord user named Rose that Destiny sexted and overshared with, who gave her account over to another Groomercord user named Solo. Solo joined the site under the name SoloTinyLeaks and posted all the videos you might have seen and has also teased a few tidbits of information, the most intriguing being that he knows Rose's real age and that she lied about being 19 when she and Destiny first started sexting. According to Solo she was actually underage at the time, but he won't substantiate that any further out of fear of helping someone dox her.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733521038636671.webp

A lot of people in that thread, Blav included, think Destiny likes to target naive young women because they're the easiest to woo. Blav says outright he believes Destiny is an ephebophile but also starts mixing in the word libertarian. He gets baited by a longtime Kiwi shitposter named Dynastia\Dyn into explaining why people might call Destiny a libertarian.

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At this point he gets pissy and threatens to leave:

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But of course he doesn't, since he has plenty of sock accounts he keeps signing in to new ones to argue with people in the thread. Will he actually leave forever? Who knows at this point, but he's managed to stay away from the farms for a whole 15 hours at the time of writing this.

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All while that's going on, Dynastia is baiting others into arguing over what qualifies as pedophilia, Null is trying to be diplomatic and redirect the thread's energy to the women who had porn of them leaked (a scandal of far bigger substance), and a thread semi-regular named Green Meanie b-words at Null for bringing r-slurs into the thread. This triggers Null to lay down the law.

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And that's about where we stand so far. The thread is a bit tense due to daddy Null having to scold people, but conversation seems to be returning to normal. No idea if or when Blav will return (he will), or if he's already back on a sock account no one has discovered yet (probably).

TL;DR the state of the KF Destiny thread:

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!ranchers @arsey

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The tone is dark, even angry.

"The situation is getting worse every day."

"We don't see the goal. Our land is not here."

I wrote multiple times that Ukraine is holding Kursk territory in hope that they get to exchange it for something.

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That what they roughly lost since they hold Kursk territory

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Kursk territory is more zoomed as you see on marks and there is literally nothing there except Sudzha had 6k people so no more than 10k lived in territory.

Kursk oblast has 36/km2 people and 2200/km2 in Kursk

Donetsk oblast 160/km2 its most populous oblast in Ukraine (Kiev is not oblast tho)

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And metallurgy wise Donbas is like super important to Ukraine

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Russian now reached shevchenko that means just a bit push to north and this will happen:

Oleksandr Kalenkov, head of Ukraine's steelmakers' association, said the loss of the Pokrovsk mine, the only domestic source of coking coal, could cause steel production to slump.

"We could make up to 7.5 million metric tons of steel by the end of the year and, for next year, we saw an increase in production to over 10 million," Kalenkov told Reuters.

"But if we lose Pokrovsk, then ... we will fall to 2-3 million tons."

It's very big deal because during conflicts, since metal and coke is used to produce weapons so wiping out 70-80% of your enemy metal production is big deal

"We don't know where to get coal if Pokrovsk is seized," he told Reuters. "It is difficult to bring it in by importing; today it is not so easy to bring it in by sea."

Ukraine produced more than 4.3 million tons of rolled steel products in January-August 2024, of which 66% were exported. EU countries accounted for 72% of the volume exported, according to the steelmakers' union.

So as you see it becomes costlier to support Ukraine. Now not only EU won't buy cheap steel from Ukraine but they also will need to support Ukraine with steel so they could produce weapons and it will be a b-word to do.

And Ukraine got in such situation because they decided to send all their elites to Kursk. Probably to capture the nuclear power plant because Ukraine also has problem with electricity so losing coal is extra damage. They failed at it, logical move would been to pull back when it was clear they won't capture it. So when best Ukrainian units were banzaing in Kursk oblast. Pokrovsk front got wrecked.

Almost four months after Ukrainian troops launched a lightning offensive into the Russian region of Kursk, text messages from soldiers fighting there paint a dismal picture of a battle they don't properly understand and fear they might be losing.

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They speak of dire weather conditions and a chronic lack of sleep caused by Russia's constant bombardment, which includes the use of terrifying, 3,000kg glide bombs.

The first week Ukraine lost tons of AD including multiple patriots. Around March Russian got new lancet drones that had more range than patriots so pulling AD close to the front line is easy way to lose it. So Ukrainian are in Russian territory literally without AD. So strategically Russia had no reason to rush pushing Ukrainian out. And that story about NK ended up being fake and only genius like @pizzashill believed in it. Reason for NK story was that west is running out of ammo and SK had tons of it so khohols politician who are clearly r-slurs and don't understand Asia thought story of NK would push SK supporting Ukraine but they recently closed all help to Ukraine and told them hard no.

@pizzashill here another shit you'll believe

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They're also in retreat, with Russian forces gradually retaking territory.

"This trend will continue," Pavlo wrote on 26 November. "It's only a matter of time."

Legendary high moral.

Pavlo spoke of immense fatigue, the lack of rotation and the arrival of units, made up largely of middle-aged men, brought directly from other fronts with little or no time to rest in between.

To hear soldiers complain - about their commanding officers, orders and lack of equipment - is hardly unusual. It's what soldiers often do in difficult circumstances.

Ukraine now losing in every front including Kursk and they pulling men out of other front much more important than Kursk. To hold some field in Kursk.

Also important note, this year was very green (grassy) so Ukrainian used the forest to attack Kursk oblast but during wonder leaves falls so they can't really hide or build fortifications.

Some questioned whether one of the operation's initial goals - to divert Russian soldiers from Ukraine's eastern front - had worked.

It absolutely has, pull more Ukrainian soldiers from all other fronts

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The orders now, they said, were to hang onto this small sliver of Russian territory until a new US president, with new policies, arrives in the White House at the end of January.

"The main task facing us is to hold the maximum territory until Trump's inauguration and the start of negotiations," Pavlo said. "In order to exchange it for something later. No-one knows what."

I'll comment about it later because it's just a bit to much of a

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President Zelensky indicated that both sides had the change of US administration in mind.

"I am sure that he [Putin] wants to push us out by 20 January," he said.

You know the beautiful part about Zelensky he always says that Putin want to capture X by some date

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Also he told about bakhmut and etc.

When we didn't got even a single time confirmed by Putin.

In an effort to help Ukraine thwart Russian counterattacks in Kursk, the US, UK and France have all permitted Kyiv to use long-range weapons on targets inside Russia.

It doesn't seem to have done much to lift spirits.

"No-one sits in a cold trench and prays for missiles," Pavlo said.

Wrong Redditors are praying from their desktop trench

In October alone, Russia was able to occupy an estimated 500 sq km of Ukrainian territory, the most it's taken since the early days of the full-scale invasion in 2022.

In November they took more :marseynails:

And high chances that December will be even more since 3 key cities are going gg

Toretsk is as good as gone

This is also a good proof since every time Ukraine is about to lose a city they crying about the city being destroyed

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Russian already captured Komar so Novasylka now has no roads leading to that city (western road is also cut)

The fight in Kurakhove is now in the power plant so at the outskirts of the city.

And despite weeks of reports suggesting that as many as 10,000 North Korean troops have been sent to Kursk to join the Russian counter-offensive, the soldiers we've been in contact have yet to encounter them.

@pizzashill where are north Korean troops ?

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"I haven't seen or heard anything about Koreans, alive or dead," Vadym responded when we asked about the reports.

The Ukrainian military has released recordings which it says are intercepts of North Korean radio communications.

Soldiers said they had been told to capture at least one North Korean prisoner, preferably with documents.

They spoke of rewards - drones or extra leave - being offered to anyone who successfully captures a North Korean soldier.

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They treating North Koreans like call of duty kill steaks

"It's very difficult to find a Korean in the dark Kursk forest," Pavlo noted sarcastically. "Especially if he's not here."

@pizzashill

Veterans of previous doomed operations see parallels in what's happening in Kursk.

From October 2023 until July this year, Ukrainian forces attempted to hold onto a tiny bridgehead at Krynky, on the left bank of the Dnipro River, some 25 miles (40km) upstream from the liberated city of Kherson.

The bridgehead, initially intended as a possible springboard for advances further into Russian-held territory in southern Ukraine, was eventually lost.

The operation was hugely costly. As many as 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are thought to have been killed or gone missing.

The ironic part it was UK who planed this mission

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Military analysts insist that for all the hardship, the Kursk campaign continues to play an important role.

"It's the only area where we maintain the initiative," Serhiy Kuzan, of the Ukrainian Security and Cooperation Centre, told me.

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They just at start of the article told Ukraine is losing ground in that direction and showed maps and this guy comes and says they have the initiative :marseyclapping:

And here comes the BEST PART

You see Zelenskyy assumes Trump will come on January 20 and the whole front will freeze. He thinks Putin doesn't see Zelenskyy goal. But the reality is Burger politician basically don't work in December and January and then work very half assed in February. From January 20 to January 27 Trump will be just partying and receiving calls from different world leaders, then he will need to appoint a date to talk with Putin and Zelenskyy. Even if we assume Putin wants to freeze the conflict it will take MONTHS. But Putin don't need it and he has tons of buttons to prolong it and one important button is, Zelensky need to become legal before Putin would talk to him and that's not what Zelensky would want to play because there is huge chances he loses the power. So whole plan of holding Kursk territory to exchange it for something is giga low iq.

Zelensky was also angry last week at western media for saying Ukraine lost 70k men

More than 100,000 soldiers have been charged under Ukraine's desertion laws since Russia invaded in

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So Zelenskyy is still suggesting that Ukraine lost only 31k and most are civilians while at same time having over 100k deserters :marseyxd:

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Putin sees this, everything shows Ukraine is in shit. Wisest move would been if Zelensky told today hey we giving those full 5 oblast including parts that are under our control to Russia for peace deal.

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And giga jfl and ISW homos who were always telling us if Ukraine loses something that it ain't important and soon Russian advances will lose tempo

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This how Redditors now coping while

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This is the reality. But Zelenskyy needs nato but nato don't want Ukraine so nato is thinking about alternatives like making Ukraine like Germany during Cold War or bringing peace forces into Ukraine.

Those all are fantastic ideas but they are coming from homosexuals that planned the isolation of Russia and strategical defeat of Russia on battlefield.

So they don't realise Putin started it because he don't want Ukraine in nato or any nato soldiers in Ukraine. He survived the majority of EU hardware, giving Ukraine 600 Taurus won't do shit or Tamohawks

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Russian even planning to cross dniper.

This what homo that for 3 years been posting Ukraine is winning

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And seems like Biden team r-sluration didn't stoped with 11 years of pardon to Hunter

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They want to give Russian frozen assets to Ukraine that's literally stealing and giga low iq move. US is showing the world that its banks can't be trusted and they can change rules at will. But they ain't planning to do it they just want to sell bs to US citizens. They saying they giving that money as loan to Ukraine. In other words that's not Russian money, Biden team just gives Ukraine 50 billions as loan. Ukraine will never pay back and US citizens will be forced to pay Russian back.

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This is also good example why mobilisation won't work. Ukraine doesn't have many young boys and statistics like this always try to paint a more favourable picture for Ukraine.

Also do you remember how happily you were when Ukrainian women were refugees telling how they bring young women and children ?

We got more Ukrainian 35-39 post wall roasties than 18-30 year old foids and if we count 30+ post wall roasties it will be multiple times more than all younger groups. And you know what those roasties bring ? Economical damage. An average or below average 35 year old Pier, Pedro, Peter can easily get foid his age. So we got more goods that was already offered more than it was demanded

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This is like some overly complicated spy movie that developed over a month so it's pretty long, but literally nothing makes sense and things drastically changed from day to day so hopefully it's still an interesting read :marseyfsjal: I'll use the same marseys to distinguish between the candidates and their respective parties to help everyone keep track :marseyfluffy:


Quick background information that you should know :marseyreading:

Romania was never a democracy and it will probably never be one either, it's a known 'secret' that the country is controlled by our secret services. After the revolution we never disbanded the secret service responsible for all the horrible shit happening during communism, we just asked them to stop killing people and left them to do whatever they were doing. So they just rebranded under a different name, retained all the control they had over the country and shaped the new 'democracy' and it's political landscape to fit their needs. Per capita, Romania has the most known secret service agents in EU, but the exact number of people employed is kept a secret, we just know that there are more than the official number. We don't even know how many glowie organizations we actually have since some of them are completely hidden, we just know that more organizations exist out there but nothing else. The secret services have no transparency and answer to no one, they have to give a briefing to the parliament about their activities every now and then, but beyond that no one can actually check on whatever they're doing. Obviously, there are a frick ton amount of conspiracy theories surrounding them and they are blamed for every unusual thing that happens in the country. And this is exactly what I'll be doing here :marseywholesome:

Second thing, we're an extremely docile nation who accepted pretty much everything those in power did over our history. Even during the revolution we calmed down immediately after killing Ceausescu and his wife, meaning that no one else was made to answer for the atrocities that happened during communism. Which is why the former generals and politicians still remain in politics today and why the secret services still control the country. So while reading this just remember that the population barely reacted to everything going on, aside from bitching on the internet a lot :marseylaptopangry2:


On to the parties! We have three main political factions:

  • the classic parties (PNL and PSD) :marseysuit: They are the first parties established after the communism's fall and have people in all the state's institutions in order to control them. They are also known for closely working with the secret services and basically being owned by them. They make sure the glowie wishes are being fulfilled (for example it's accepted that the constant pro-EU and pro-NATO attitude Romania has has been enforced by the secret services) and in exchange they are allowed to steal as much tax money as they want. They have ruled for decades, each playing opposition to the other, while happily mooching money together. But they also neglected to do literally anything for the country so the population got increasingly fed up with them. While PNL started to fall to the side, PSD remains the biggest and strongest party in the country and is accused by every other party of manipulating the elections every single time. And yes, they actually do it every single time :lelolidk:

  • the woke parties (mainly USR) :chadleftoid: The party was created after people got fed up with the other parties for not doing anything to improve anyone's lives. They have modeled their program after the lib parties in Europe and America (mainly gay stuff but with some pro-Palestine messages too recently) but have libertarian tendencies. They infight a lot and split up in ever smaller parties all the time.

  • the far right parties (AUR, SOS, POT) :marseyauthright: Newest and the most untested faction we have. Parties of all sorts of -ists, generally pro-Russia and anti-EU and NATO. Also lots of antisemitism, this will be important later. They argue a lot with each other but still try to form coalitions. All of them have been accused of being russian spies.


And lastly the candidates!


Lasconi :chadleftoid:

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  • Exceptionally stupid, has no idea on anything going on in the world despite wanting to become president

  • Leader of the 'gay party' but tried to pretend to be trad and a christian. Nobody bought it.

  • Believes that Israel should do a ceasefire because Hamas and Hezbollah are fighting each other in Gaza

Georgescu :marseyhitler2:

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  • Massive schizo, internet conspiracy theorists could learn new conspiracies from him

  • Independent, but part of the far right faction

  • Believes romanian language was the one that created the latin language not vice versa

Ciolacu :marseysuit:

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  • Average Eastern Europe politician - corrupt and with no actual principles, will change opinions to keep his power

  • Leader of the biggest party in the country and the candidate with the most control over the institutions

  • Doesn't know english despite wanting to be president and meet other world leader

Simion :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright:

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  • Closeted gay gypsy. Politely doesn't mention he's a gypsy so we mostly pretend we don't notice

  • Leader of the AUR :marseyauthright: party

  • Yes, aur as in gold. Gypsies will forever remain gypsies :marseysigh:

Sosoaca :marseychonkerfoid: :marseyauthright:

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  • Very fat and vey angry all the time. Will fight literally everyone at any moment, even her 'allies'

  • Leader of SOS :marseyauthright: party, also yes named after her :marseychonkernoticeme:

  • The last two aren't that important on their own, but since Georgescu :marseyhitler2: basically didn't exist until voting started they were the most important :marseyauthright: representatives. Both fell to the side after Georgescu appeared


Before the elections :marseyclueless:

Quick note: we had two different elections recently, the presidential ones (in two parts) and the parliamentary ones. So, since we only vote on sundays, three weeks of voting in total.

  • At this point in time Georgescu :marseyhitler2: was completely unknow to anyone so the older parties :marseysuit: :chadleftoid: were expecting to fight only two :marseyauthright: parties, both ruled by loud and stupid leaders. :marseysuit: and :chadleftoid: parties have been mortal enemies for years while the :marseyauthright: are fighting both groups while also screaming at each other. Despite the rightoids slowly growing in power nobody thought they can do much in the elections.

  • Sosoaca :marseychonkerfoid: :marseyauthright: has been forbidden by the Constitutional Court to candidate for the president position because she made some 'unconstitutional' statements - anti EU/NATO and for some antisemitism. This is a huge breach of the Court's duties because they have nothing to do with how the elections are organized, other institutions are responsible for this. But the Constitutional Court answers to no one and their decisions are law (I'm sure you can see a pattern) so she got kicked out of the race despite all her angry screaming. The decision was later retracted but oops too late to rejoin the race :marseyteehee:

  • The Constitutional Court is made from judges appointed by different parties, mostly the :marseysuit: ones, so everyone was aware that :marseysuit: are manipulating the elections again. But since Sosoaca is annoying and since she's suspected of working with Russia nobody really cared.

  • In a rare public announcement SRI (main secret service organization for internal affairs) announced that the AUR party :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: is suspected of having ties with Russia too. This wasn't news for anyone but it's nice to have an official confirmation I guess. But they also said the there is no proof of any external interference in any political candidate's campaign so they won't interfere with the elections in any way (it's still unclear if the last statement applied to Georgescu as well or not since he basically didn't exist at this point).

  • Ciolacu :marseysuit: who has been accused by everyone to work with Simion :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: to win the elections reacted angrily to this. Basically, he'll support the :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: party to reach the second voting session and there AUR :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: will be this huge threat that will scare people into voting for Ciolacu in exchange of whatever political benefits he promised them after his win (like naming their leader prime minister). Anyway Ciolacu :marseysuit: accused SRI of overstepping it's boundaries. They didn't react to this. Everyone else was angry that PSD :marseysuit: is manipulating the elections again and even of risking Romania's security by working with a russian spy, while some even accepted that they'll manage to win. But beyond these points things moved on smoothly.

  • This section is mostly important as a contrast to how the secret services and other political institutions reacted to potential russian spies (keep an eye out, open communications, quick decisions) and how they'll react from now on.


First presidential election! :ivoted:

  • The battle was supposed to be between Ciolacu :marseysuit: and Lasconi :chadleftoid: Ciolacu should win most votes inside Romania but Lasconi could beat him with the votes gathered from diaspora.

  • A news article about a 'surprise' coffee house meeting between Ciolacu :marseysuit:, Simion :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright:, the other :marseysuit: party's leader and a secret service officer was written sometimes in the last weeks before the elections and someone rediscovered it. Lasconi's :chadleftoid: voters are annoyed. This is clear proof that PSD :marseysuit: is once again manipulating elections.

  • Voting happens and after that the counting starts. For awhile things were normal: Lasconi :chadleftoid: first, then Ciolacu, :marseysuit: Simion :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: and on the fourth place some independent candidate nobody heard about, Gergescu :marseyhitler2: . Who is he and how the frick did he get so high?

  • Then Georgescu :marseyhitler2: climbed on the third place replacing Simion :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: No seriously, who is this guy? Nobody heard of him.

  • Then he dethroned Ciolacu :marseysuit: from the second place. This was quite shocking because the idea of PSD :marseysuit: not ending in the last presidential election tour was unthinkable. This were the last results most people witnessed before going to bed. The counting will go throughout the night and the official results would be announced in the morning. Lasconi's :chadleftoid: voters were naturally overjoyed.

  • Morning came... and Georgescu :marseyhitler2: was on the first place, way in front of the other candidates. :marseywtf2: just happened?


The week before the parliamentary elections :marseysweating:

  • The parliamentary elections happened a week after the first presidential elections. Obviously it was a very busy week after such a weird turn of events :marseydizzy:

  • Everyone was confused as shit and started to search who the frick Georgescu :marseyhitler2: even was. Turns out that he was a complete nutjob: he believes in all sort of new age shit (mystical energies, crystals, communicating with spirits, natural healing bullshit) every conspiracy theory out there (moon landing is false, covid is a hoax, aliens, jews control the word, satanic NWO, you name it), is very against NATO and EU to the point where he wants to pull Romania out of them, and praises Russia at any given opportunity while hating Ukraine and considering it a fake country. He also praised our version of Hitler and called him a hero :lelolidk:

  • So, where did this schizo came from? All of his campaign happened on TikTok. No media appearances, no poster, no fliers, nothing. He just gathered a following on TikTok through his insane ramblings and convinced these people to vote for him. Since he was deepthroating Russia's peepee left right and center, and since Russia is known for manipulating social media through an army of bots, everyone (aside from his voters) started to get worried that he's yet another russian spy trying to overthrow our democracy.

  • Wtf are our secret services doing? What's the point of them eating so many of our taxes if they can't even defend the country from Russia? How could they miss this huge attack on our country? :marseyraging: But every one of them remained silent and didn't react in any way to all this chaos.


  • People started to get more confused and more videos of Georgescu :marseyhitler2: saying insane shit were uncovered. More and more voices started to scream about russian interferences, but a few people pointed out an uncomfortable truth - PSD :marseysuit: was always viewed as the party that supports the current political 'system' and USR :chadleftoid: as the anti-system candidates but that was when USR was founded. Now it's been years since then, USR won some important political positions and did nothing important with them or messed up... they've became part of the system just as much as PSD. The :marseyauthright: :marseyhitler2: are voted mainly for being new faces against institutional corruption rather than because people agree with their insane positions. How do you earn these voters back now that they're about to throw Romania into Russia's arms out of spite? :marseyveryworried:

  • Vote observers from small villages came forth and said that PSD :marseysuit: told them to count their votes to AUR's :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: tally to propel them into the final round so he can have an easy win ("We fricking knew PSD is manipulating elections once again!" :soyjakanimeglasses: ). But it turns out that they were giving their votes to Georgescu :marseyhitler2: as well. Wut? Did they know about him?

  • Meanwhile Georgescu :marseyhitler2: declared that he received zero money for his campaign and that he also spent no money during it (this is important for later). This lead to people saying that this is proof that Russia financed him in order to destabilized the country. Also multiple people were fined for still campaigning on the voting day with is illegal, and to everyone's annoyance Georgescu's supporters, who were doing it too, were completely unaffected :marseyhmm:

  • Ciolacu :marseysuit: and the leader of the other :marseysuit: party stepped down from their leadership positions due to their embarrassing defeats (this will be important later on too).


  • Now some weird accusations start to appear :marseyglow: Sosoaca :marseychonkerfoid: :marseyauthright: accused Georgescu :marseyhitler2: of being a Mossad spy while an AUR member :marseyfortuneteller: :marseyauthright: accused him of being a CIA asset instead. Both of these parties like to scream hysterically at everyone else so nobody really took them seriously. A former president known for his collaboration with the former communist secret services told everyone to calm down since there is no proof that Georgescu :marseyhitler2: was financed by outside actors. He was actually financed by individual inside the country. Wtf does this means? :marseyveryworried:

  • Research into Georgescu's :marseyhitler2: past revealed further oddities. Man was probably part of the old communist secret services (very few people were allowed to travel outside the country and despite being completely unremarkable he was allowed to go out multiple times), has been working with the KGB (to spy on them), has been a member of the Club of Rome (think tank for helping humanity develop sustainably or some shit, the important part that another romanian politician with ties to the secret services was there too), he was part of the UN and has been a freemason (for the last two he claimed that he left them because of all the evil shit happening inside the organisations). He also has been arrested in the past for his support of nazis but his cases were mysteriously closed with no explanation given :marseysquint:

  • A handful of r-slurs protested every day since Georgescu won the first tour but nobody cared :marseyprotestno:


The recount and the slow death of Romania's democracy :marseyflagromaniagenocide:

  • A few days after the official election results come in an independent candidate who only gained 1% of the votes decided to contest the elections despite having no chances to win. He wrote two different complaints, one against Lasconi :chadleftoid: and one against Georgescu :marseyhitler2: The accusation against Georgescu was rejected because it was made after the three days limit expired, despite the complainer's insistance that he made the contestation in time. But the accusation against Lasconi :chadleftoid: was accepted. His declaration stated that in three different locations the votes that were supposed to go to Ciolacu :marseysuit: were actually counted for Lasconi. The Constitutional Court once again overstepped it's boundaries and ordered for all the votes to be re-counted.

  • At this point people were starting to get worried. Half of them were accusing PSD :marseysuit: of preferring to burn down democracy rather than accept that they lost the elections for the first time (again, most of the judges appointed to the constitutional court came from the two :marseysuit: main parties). Basically, since you didn't vote for our candidate we'll remake the elections until Ciolacu :marseysuit: enters the final round. And since the difference between Ciolacu and Lasconi :chadleftoid: were really small while Georgescu :marseyhitler2: was way ahead of both of them, it means that Lasconi will get kicked out of the race in favor of Ciolacu, which means a landslide victory for Georgescu due to the anti-system voters.

  • The other half noticed that up til now everything happening favored Georgescu :marseyhitler2: He avoided every possible consequence despite multiple irregularities in his campaign unlike other candidates (for example Sosoaca :marseychonkerfoid: :marseyauthright: was pulled out of the race for saying milder shit than him) and all this scandal would further raise his popularity as the anti-system candidate. Is it possible that the secret services are actually protecting the nutjob? It would explain why they haven't done anything to stop him. They haven't even said anything to reassure the population that things are fine. Shit... :marseysweating:


  • Some politician made a petition for TikTok to be banned in Romania for the duration of the elections to prevent Georgescu from campaigning. People were torn between considering this yet another hit on democracy but enough of us were happy to do anything to stop Georgescu :marseyauthright: (same thing for the recount actually). The petition wasn't approved and later on he apologized for trying to shut down the funny videos app for everyone.

  • Our secret services still said nothing at this point, and the EU decided to finally do something in their place. They called the owner of the application and demanded explanations for the bot filled campaign. Georgescu's :marseyhitler2: voters got angry at this and said that this is proof that EU interferes in Romania's business and that we should distance ourselves form it. The investigation didn't reveal much, lots of bots, some russian but not all. No real proof of election interference :marseyshrug:

  • Our current president finally decided to react to the panic and said that the secret services hadn't given him any warnings about Georgescu :marseyauthright:

  • As a shock for everyone, Ciolacu :marseysuit: came out and said that he disagrees with the Court's decision and that he'll pull out of the race if he's declared winner after the recount. B-but all this was supposed to be his plan to steal the election to enter the final round, wtf is going on? If he doesn't want this then who does? Predictably, most people realized that he's bullpooping and that he'll walk this back if he actually wins :marseyunamused:


  • Now things get nasty. A weird facebook poster claimed that he was accidentally added to a mail list between multiple former secret service agents that were discussing using Georgescu :marseyauthright: to stage a coup. Basically the members of the former communist secret services were upset that the country distanced itself from Russia and wanted to forcefully bring us back into it's influence zone. One mail specifically said that we should become a satellite of China (?). Panic started to settle now, this was proof that at least some secret services wanted Georgescu :marseyhitler2: to win and since they control the country then there's nothing we can do to stop them :marseyscared: After this news people discovered that the :marseyauthright: parties (all of them) have the largest number of known former secret services officers as members, further cementing the conspiracy theories that our own secret services are dragging us all towards Russia :marseysad:

  • Oddly enough Georgescu started to soften his positions. He declared that he doesn't actually wants to take us out of NATO and EU, he just wants us to stop agreeing unconditionally with everything they decide (like helping Ukraine), that America is Romania's most important partner, and despite being an actual nazi, he started sucking Israel's peepee hard. He said that on the first day after he's declared president he will move our embassy to Jerusalem, declare the arrest request for Bibi as unconstitutional and that he'll invite him to visit Romania, and that he'll not only make antisemitism a crime (it already is just not really enforced) but that he'll expand the definition of it as well :marseywut2: You'd expect his nazi followers to be upset at that but they barely reacted at all. There were a few disappointed messages but they got over it in less than a day :marseyshrug: Leftists were more affected than them because muh war criminal muh genocide :soycry:

  • Anyway, moving on, we still have so much more to cover :marseyfluffy: After the Israel stuff some guys noticed a few odd things about Georgescu's :marseyhitler2: videos. He praised Orban and mentioned stuff about Romania tightening ties with Asia, which was also present in Orban's declarations. Since Orban, and a few other eastern european leaders, refused to arrest Bibi, since his speech mirrors Orban's, since he wants to remain an ally to Murica but wants to sever ties with Western Europe and since he has similar ideas of 'befriending' Russia as Trump, rumours started that Georgescu :marseyhitler2: is an american and/or israeli spy. Basically, Trump wants to break ties with Western Europe but still wants to keep control of Eastern Europe and get it closer to Russia and China, who America will become friendlier towards, and Georgescu :marseyhitler2: is meant to force Romania to play it's part in this plan. So, what where those accusations about him being a CIA/Mossad asset again? :marseydespair:

  • This didn't reassure anyone because Trump is already viewed as Putin's friend and OMG America is going to force us back under Russia, and how the frick is a shithole from Eastern Europe supposed to defend itself from the CIA and/or Mossad? Especially since our secret services, the ones supposed to protect us, seem to agree with all of this? At this point the general mood became depressed and fatalistic :marseydeadinside2:

  • Rumours started that RFK jr and Tucker Carlson will come to Romania to show support for Georgescu :marseyhitler2: Some journo even showed a letter from Murica's embassy in Romania with Trump's signature as proof. But nobody on murican side confirmed any of this. Later on, one of Trump's former campaign managers also hinted at coming to Romania for this but in a really vague way. Everyone was confused :marseyconfused:


  • A new :marseyauthright: party appeared for the parliamentary race, POT, considered Georgescu's :marseyhitler2: unofficial party. They had the exact same TikTok strategy as him, but if we can assume that Georgescu managed to hide long enough from the secret services through TikTok how did these guys slip through? Surely, at this point our secret services are aware of this electoral interference, right? Why aren't they stopping it? :marseyworried:

  • Leader of this new party visited Beijing at some point and promised that Romania will have closer ties with China if they win. Why is everyone trying to make us China's allies anyway, we didn't had much ties with them in the first place? :marseyconfused2:


  • Recounts start. Constitutional Court ordered all recounts to be done behind closed doors, with no camera or supervisors. Shit, it's happening, we're getting couped :marseydepressed: Ciolacu :marseysuit: entering the final round won't help anyone since his party is completely controlled by the secret services and he won't do anything to fight their plans. Basically between him and Georgescu :marseyhitler2: we're fricked no matter who wins :marseycrying:

  • Another handful of r-slurs gathered to protest but were quickly told to go home. Nothing else happened :marseylibleftgenocide:

  • Oh, and that part about Gerogescu :marseyhitler2: declaring zero donations and expenses? Turns out the institution responsible for checking up the candidates' campaign finances 'forgot' to publish the financial declarations for nearly a week, which is why his absurd declaration flied under the radar. Also, it's too late to do anything about it now, contestation time limit has long since passed :marseytroll:


  • But plot twists! Turn out RFK jr won't actually come to Romania, turn out Georgescu :marseyhitler2: wasn't even a member of the Club of Rome, just part of some affiliated organization, and the same thing happened with his UN membership. Wtf, does this guy even exists at this point? :marseywtf2: But wait! He was actually part of the UN... but no one knows who appointed him there in the first place :marseybeanquestion: Clearly this is some glowie shit and we already know he was a glowie and that he's supported by glowies :marseyglow:

The parliamentary elections :marseyridin:

  • These are actually the most important elections since the president barely has any power here. The parliament makes the laws. Candidate parties need to meet a certain voting threshold to win and the winners will make alliances with each other. While a dominant alliance that owns over 50% of the seats is preferred for a stable parliament we can have multiple smaller alliances negotiating each action, but that's a really unstable situation.

  • The recounts are still going. Everyone is stressed and demoralized. Why do we even bother to vote if the Constitutional Court will just throw away the results again? :marseytabletired2:

  • Turns out the other :marseysuit: party managed to get itself kicked out of the diaspora voting lists for not listing a woman candidate among their member lists. Funny lol r-slurs :marseylaugh: but once again, why is every happening favoring Georgescu :marseyhitler2: ?

  • Voting happens and the votes are counted. Because of PSD's :marseysuit: bullshit not everybody can vote in these elections (you need to vote in the place you live in, so students or workers who travel for their jobs are eliminated) and diaspora's votes barely count. So the results now are different. All three factions failed to reach a majority. No matter what, the parliament is split in three and they need to negotiate with each other to make a majority :marseyshrug:

  • Since diaspora's vote didn't count here PSD :marseysuit: got most votes and become the most important player. No matter what, they will join the ruling alliance, and again the parliament actually controls the country not the president. This could be good or bad depending on whether they are actually trying to coup the country or if they just want to keep being able to steal tax money (later one means that they won't pull us out of EU) :marseycapitalistmanlet: But if they ally with the :marseyauthright: parties and if Georgescu :marseyhitler2: wins the presidency and if Georgescu appoints Ciolacu :marseysuit: (or someone else from their party) as prime minister then together they will effectively control all parts of the country. And again, if the conspiracy theories with the secret services forcing us towards Russia is true then no one will be able oppose that plan :marseysulk:

  • Yet no one moved to make any alliance at this point since the recount haven't been finished and nobody even knows who can become president yet :marseywait:


Current situation! :marseymath:

  • The recounts are finally finished! :marseyyayyy: ...and nothing changed. All the panic and all the conspiracy theories were in vain. The second tour of the presidential elections will go without any changes - pro EU Lasconi :chadleftoid: vs pro-Russia Georgescu :marseyhitler2: Last voting session will still happen this weekend :marseyletsgo: But then what was the point of all this bullshit and chaos? :marseyhmmm: Best anyone can come up with is that PSD :marseysuit: tried to steal the first elections but either failed or waited to see how the parliamentary elections faired to settle on one strategy. And since they basically won the important election there's no point in remaking the first elections. Politicians :marseysigh:

  • Ciolacu :marseysuit: revealed that he won't actually step down as PSD's leader. What a surprise :marseyeyeroll: Everyone is waiting to see who PSD :marseysuit: will support both as president and as an ally for the parliament but they still haven't decided. Shit maybe they do actually want to ally with :marseyauthright: ?


  • Until this point our secret services still said absolutely nothing about the situation, so Lasconi :chadleftoid: finally gathered the courage to do something that should have been done since the beginning: ask them directly what the frick is happening here :marseyclapping: She made a petition for them to make public the files they have on Georgescu :marseyhitler2: Which they agreed (but only gave a rapport rather the actual files) :marseythumbsup:

  • It don't reveal much: some 'state actors' helped promote him on TikTok in a way that proved that they were very familiar with the algorithm and with how to keep themselves hidden from the state. The campaign had lots of similarities with the disinformation campaigns happening in Ukraine and the election interference happening in Moldova, both carried by Russia. But they don't name Russia as Georgescu's :marseyhitler2: backers directly. Still, it's clear that Russia was behind this right? The secret services just can't reveal everything and endanger national security, yeah? The cops have decided to finally start investigating Georgescu :marseyhitler2: and the media is calling him a traitor. Ciolacu :marseysuit: came out and officially said that he supports Lasconi :chadleftoid: for president and that his party will join with her party and the other :marseysuit: parties to form a pro- west parliamentary majority in order to block out the :marseyauthright: parties. It's finally over and Romania is saved :marseyrelieved:


  • Well, you see, it's too late to remove the russian asset from the presidential race since the contestation time window is over and we can't kick him out any longer :marseytroll: Yes, he might be a literal traitor trying to sell the country to Russia, so what? :marseydisconcerting:

  • Plus the files also revealed that the secret services were aware of Georgescu's :marseyauthright: campaign and his ties with Russia all this time. Good thing they aren't incompetent, right? I mean, they literally rule the country :marseyclueless: But then, why didn't they do anything until it was too late to kick him out of the race? Why the frick aren't them kicking him out now? He's a literal russian agent that betrayed his country to serve Russia and frick us all, surely there must be some exceptions to the 'too late' rule :marseyaware: The president knew too, and Ciolacu :marseysuit: (current prime minister) revealed that he was also aware of this but couldn't say anything since it was a state secret... but why didn't he at least throw his support for Lasconi :chadleftoid: earlier? He could have done this without revealing anything else... What is going on? Why isn't anyone doing anything? :marseywtf:

  • Besides, despite making an official alliance with the pro-EU parties, PSD :marseysuit: can still either break the alliance at a later date and join the :marseyauthright: parties, vote alongside the pro-Russia parties despite their promise, and even if Lasconi :chadleftoid: wins the parliament can force her out of her position and call for new elections. Plus the parliament is more important than the president and they have the biggest share of it... maybe those conspiracy theories were right after all? :marseydespair:

  • The police and other authorities said that they received no warning for Georgescu :marseyhitler2: no message or documents, nothing despite the secret services having files on him for who knows how long. They are just as shocked as anyone else. Even if they start investigating him now it might take awhile to arrest him. The elections might be done already. Sure, they could still cancel his mandate on treason charges, probably, but will they? And what does 'state actors' even means? It could just mean our secret services. And even if they specifically mean foreign state actors, we can go back to the CIA/Mossad conspiracy theory :marseyveryworriedfed:

  • Are we still getting couped? Do they care so little about our opinions that they will tell us straight to our face that we'll join Russia and that there's nothing we can do about it? :marseycry:


Today :hysterical:

I wrote all this yesterday, so here are the latest developments :marseydance:

  • Gergescu :marseyhitler2: is still in the race. Yes, there are hints that some secret services support Georgescu :marseyhitler2:, presumably the others are against him... hopefully :chudconcerned:

  • We have notified NATO, EU and our neighbours that there were hostile foreign interferences into our elections

  • A criminal investigation on him by multiple institutions has started, but it's unclear if it will help with anything. What will happen if he wins the election? :marseyquestion:

  • EU demanded TikTok to not delete his campaign data

  • The guy who demanded a recount came back and asked for both elections to be cancelled. Nobody knows what's his problem :marseyxd:

  • America asked us if we're ok. We still don't have an answer to this question.

  • No seriously, why aren't they arresting him yet? Why didn't they actually do anything all this time? :marseyveryworried:


So, this sunday I'll go vote in an election that might have it's winner already decided or might just get cancelled after the votes are counted :marseyexcited: An one of the candidates is an admittedly traitor to the country. And last week's elections might have been the last real elections I voted in, even if Georgescu :marseyhitler2: loses this is the perfect opportunity for PSD :marseysuit: to tighten it's control over the country even more :marseyfluffy: But the whole shitshow is still going strong so I'll keep you up to date :marseywave2:

Community Note by @sob

OP is a secret service glowie :marseyglow2: Do not engage

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I just read hundred of words about this shit noone in the world cares about :bruh:

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EFFORTPOST John Fenley the CD guy who bought half the city of Pine Bluff has provoked a stalker who is probably going to kill him :marseyopera:

Excellent post about this guy

Tl;dr he bought a defunct company (Murfie) that held onto peoples CDs and vinyl and tried to move it to an impoverished shithole in Arkansas because property value was cheap. The town drove him insane and methheads robbed him daily but he decided to buy up 1000 more properties anyway, most recently a 7 story school administrative building with no plan on what exactly to do with it. He has also tried to run for mayor there as a Libertarian and got arrested for throwing a tantrum at a city council meeting when they said he couldn't turn one of his abandoned warehouse properties into a go-kart track. He represented himself in court.

All of the property of Murfie has been sitting in a bunch of shipping containers while he runs around Hell on Earth acting like a retard. To be clear the average customer of Murfie is like 70 years old. The business would take a CD or vinyl from you and for a subscription fee allow you to listen to your CD or vinyl over a streaming service :marseyconfused2: the entire concept is like something out of the dotcom boom. All of his videos have comments like this from confused customers.

https://i.imgur.com/k6MUlTo.png

:marseynetgrannytalking: :marseysad:

Most of them have had to accept that this inventory is gone, had this dumbass not gotten involved it would have all likely ended up at a landfill anyway because nobody in their right mind would have purchased this company.

However there is one guy who really, really wants his CDs. @PontifierAR on Twitter (Formerly Chuck's) has this pinned to profile and has been dedicated to harassing him for the past five years.

He has several wordpress sites raging against John Fenley and Murfie and a schizophrenic Youtube channel.

John is active on Reddit as /u/Pontifier. At some point this guy made a Reddit account and would reply with some :marseyseethe: every time John would post about something. Eventually he responded.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17333315976798215.webp

This did not satisfy him. He commented again, John apparently was having a bad day and decided to unload :giggabork:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1733331737331389.webp

This has completely set the guy off :chudexplode:

Since this post he has tweeted at:

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The majority of these are reposts of John's comment with ranting

I don't know what timezone he's in, but he's definitely American. His first tweets of the day are all around the same time. He is apparently waking up and thinking about the post first thing in the morning :platysun: :marseycoffee: , seething about it throughout the day, and continues to :feraljaktantrum: well into the evening, likely shortly before going to sleep :marseytoasty:. It's safe to assume he dreams about this post as well.

There is hilarious schadenfreude in John's story but a lot of people here seem to root for him. There is something kind of endearing about his insane ambition even if it's delusional and extremely poorly thought out. But clearly his ability to make someone :pepereeeeee: is unsurpassed. I have never made a post on the internet that upset a person as much as this one comment has. I kneel :vegetakneel:

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EFFORTPOST :marseydisgustnotes: COMMUNITY NOTED The curious case of the Chris Watts defenders - or, how someone managed to be so annoying on facebook that redditors will celebrate their tragic murder

Background

Chris Watts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_family_murders) is a family annihilator who murdered his pregnant wife Shannan and two young children 2018. They were a striving middle class family in a mcmansion, with Shannan being a a stay at home mother/MLM scammer/influencer, and Chris earning relatively large sums on the oil fields. They had no recorded domestic violence history, no real criminal history, and were famously white attractive. Case got a lot of attention because the police released a lot of information, including bodycam footage of the moment Chris is confronted with evidence that his wife couldn't have run away with the kids in the way he claimed. After a day or two of telling the media he misses his disappeared family, he confesses to the crime and hundreds of hours of true crime content is born. He gets fan mail from crazies in jail to this day.

The defenders

Who would defend such a man, you ask? To answer that, we have to understand the volumous internet presence Shannan had on social media up until her murder. She posted several times a day, including livestreams, in order to shill her MLM product and present a curated picture of her 'perfect' life. These posts and streams are a morbid curiosity to people because Chris featured often, and people say you can tell he seems disinterested and disengaged even back then (to me he just seems like a guy bored by his wife's incessesant posting and filming, tbh).

Here is a compilation of relevant social media videos from Shannan to give a sense of her tone online:

Because of how widespread this is, it's near impossible to gaze upon any discussion of the topic without noticing how many people seem focussed on how unlikeable Shannan is, how hard Chris must have had it. At least until recently, reddit had snark-style subs dedicated to pooping on Shannan's online presence (which seems like a dead end considering there is only so much content she will ever produce). Shannan's personality on social media is so fundarnetally annoying and unlikeable, apparently, that hordes of people are more compelled by that than the cold blooded triple murder by her husband.

From the comments of the video above:

>Chris did not like being on camera, you can tell.

>Did she really record these massively long videos and post them on Facebook? I feel like the average person would not watch the majority of these lol

>The first one is so cringe. Everybody trying to act like they're rockin' and rollin' to some shitty cover band with zero attendance. Ick.

>She is annoying but that doesn't warrant murder

>If you are constantly filming, I don't think you are truly engaged in the moment.

>This woman was so desperately addicted to posting everything about her life online that 3 hours of online silence was all her neighbor needed to know something was wrong

(this refers to the fact that Shannan's loved ones got police involved mere hours after her middle-of-the-night murder simply because she hadn't yet posted an obnoxious video or livestream on FB that day lol)

>The dude should have just left her, the constant filming would have been enough for me. Totally unhinged behavior, when I see families in restaurants all on their phones, I just think I'm so glad I'm not you. Zero parental skills.

>He should've got the balls to tell her that, "her job isn't real, social media isn't real and I think I'm falling out of love with you."

>Shes very dismissive of Chris making him look like he's really awkward.

>I can't imagine live in relationship when my partner record everything all the time and post it ...

And so on. This isn't even one half of it. And these comments are about a woman who was violently killed by her husband while she slept.

Reddit

Anyway, Reddit somehow has allowed a large community of Shannan Watts (murder victim) snark subs to thrive. Some key posts:

https://old.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/comments/16zkuoe/shannon_watts_and_the_ridiculous_shirts/

In this post, redditors mock her for tacky t-shirts and clothes she put on the children (before their murder)

https://old.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/comments/1g1s63h/lupus_shmupus/

In this post, Shannan is mocked for at one point saying she might have lupus but posting things on facebook that indicate she may not have lupus.

https://old.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/comments/1cigxc2/having_no_balls/

Redditors theorise to what extent did Shannan emasculate Chris, prior to her murder.

https://old.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/comments/16t49mb/i_thought_it_was_just_me/

A redditor rejoices at finding a sub of like-minded people who, like them, also hate the murder victim:

>When I first heard of this case, I was so shocked. But from the very beginning, what I learned of SW irked me. After watching the TV shows, including Netfix, I really disliked everything about her. But every media thing I read praised her. The videos I found showed her in a shining light, lol. I finally dropped it and moved on.

Lmao OP saw the coverage "woman and her two kids murdered in cold blood" and really laser focussed in how irritating the victim was.

Anyway, you can explore the sub yourself - search by top posts for most dramatic and angry redditors.

The point

I never promised I had a point. I suppose I find this drama-worthy because it's truly fascinating to me that this woman was apparently so annoying, and hit on so many of reddit's sore spots (fake disroder cringe, influence life) that it overrode the normal reddit instinct to find a female victim of her husband murdering her and her kids sympathetic. To be clear, none of these people met Shannan while she was alive or even saw her posts prior to her death. They have created an image of her post-mortem they find so infuriating they are posting about it six years later. Majority of the reddit users are women, which further excludes inceldom as a

primary motivator.

I, for one, strive to be such an annoying person that my eventual death by murder is the least interesting thing about me.

Happy hannukah!

Community Note by @sneedman

Chris Watts is an anal maniac.

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EFFORTPOST (GIGANORMOUS WALL OF LINKS BELOW, MAY LAG YOUR DEVICE) redditor spams chud barbie memes to farm karma, some posts get thousands of likes, others get deleted by jannies

					
					

here are the current survivors:

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1gwc10v/the_ones_who_got_away/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1ggei97/marriage_age/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fyhp1o/female_chad/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fppjpw/planned_parenthood_as_intended/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fng070/leaving_her_dry/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fkg2ft/dont_waste_your_fertility/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Memes_Of_The_Dank/comments/1f66var/double_standards/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Memes_Of_The_Dank/comments/1f55l6r/muslim_values/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f4qg1r/i_guess_its_our_fault/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f4qf68/any_excuse_will_do/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f4qe5o/being_a_bigot/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Memes_Of_The_Dank/comments/1f4b1k9/childrens_rights/

https://old.reddit.com/r/MoldyMemes/comments/1f4azfj/childrens_rights/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f4at95/childrens_rights/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f4asrh/if_its_free/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f3dicf/another_day_in_paradise/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1f108sk/best_use_of_time_travel/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1eza8on/im_sure_its_our_fault/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1ex8f93/do_your_reading/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1ex3bea/being_normal/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1ex2yex/avoidance_attachment_disorder/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1evxdqa/if_women_choose_the_bear_men_choose_the/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1evukpy/social_experiment/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1evkkmb/not_all_equal_rights_are_equal/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1erhomn/the_only_fair_contest/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1er3jpn/what_really_hurts/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1eqfej7/wrong_substance/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1eo1d6g/new_products/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1en71wn/the_weird_one/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1elnvnq/need_and_demand/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1elbdc8/defining_gender/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1eh8ivc/fairness_in_sports/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1eglq1e/plain_biology/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1eglp72/meaning_of_words/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1ed096d/double_standards/

https://old.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/1ecwilg/whos_your_favorite/

https://old.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/1e85fv4/skin_care/

and heres everything that got removed by the reddit jannies:

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1gqzepd/make_the_right_choice/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1go3j5p/if_more_than_one_says_it/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1gir9sj/divorce_rates/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1g0duld/time_blindness/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fxl2x2/nature_at_work/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fua41f/what_it_means_to_be_selfish/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fqvwp6/you_gotta_pump_those_numbers/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fqiko7/its_not_oppression_if_youre_paid/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1foxnuy/chivalry_will_rise_again/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/1fovtb6/the_one_thing_theyre_better_at/

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he used to do this on other subreddits, but had most of his posts deleted

https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fkfa58/dont_waste_your_fertility/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fkbsie/how_to_avoid_the_snip/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fjto76/shop_like_a_billionaire/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fjl0q2/gender_makes_the_difference/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fjkxl8/it_only_hurts_if_done_for_the_wrong_reason/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fid5as/be_selective_with_your_influence_sources/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/1ff04cw/your_best_life_now/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fe9cmx/wanna_go_for_a_ride/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fdabbg/they_call_men_entitled_and_aggressive_for/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fd0xxp/the_beauty_of_european_multiculturalism/

https://i.redd.it/y0s8e2pcpund1.jpeg

https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fcg8c6/defining_true_happiness/

https://i.redd.it/jr14v6bnepnd1.jpeg

https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fbtu5s/stop_complaining_and_be_consistent/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fbrgjc/before_asking_make_sure_you_have_something_to_give/

https://i.redd.it/1bdo6b9r5jnd1.jpeg

https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/1fbr81s/women_habits_vs_men_habits/

https://i.redd.it/2u2k0j3t2jnd1.jpeg

https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/1e8mg0z/historical_facts/ and https://old.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/1e8kt5x/historical_revision/

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EFFORTPOST :marseysteer: Wake up neighbors Syrian Civil War is fricking BACK :dumstickdancer:

					
					

DEAD RUSSIANS

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SPLODY PAGERS

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CAPTURED CITADELS

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INVADING TURKS

WHAT THE FRICK IS GOING ON :marseyaaat#remble:

Around 2014, shortly before I went to prison, the civil war in Syria was very fun to follow - the Ukraine or Israel of its day but less normie. It was in the sweet spot between these wars - very well reported, slow, and with a couple of cohesive factions - and jiggaboo hijinks in Africa where there are dozens of factions, zero cohesiveness, minimal information, and rapid butt movements and upsets because Russians came or a white man got mad.

Then I got out and shit was boring again. ISIS was gone, the rebels were cucked, and Assad had mostly won. How'd that happen?

:marseyinvisible: 2011-2012: Humble beginnings

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Bashar Assad, the Alawite leader of Syria, had brutally oppressed his people for many years. In Arab fashion, it took American glowies on X (at the time known as "twitter") to galvanize them into rebelling, which they did, mostly ineffectually, over 2011-2012.

Though their achievements were minimal, with every massacre and atrocity, Assad's grip over the population and business establishment weakened. This emboldened individuals and factions, and everyone (perceiving weakness) shifted from keeping their head down to aiming for a piece of the Syrian pie.

:marseyinvisible: 2013: Shit gets real

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Red is Assad, supported by the Alawites (inhabiting the coast, mostly), secularish and nationalist Syrians, certain classes of society like Sunni businessmen who supported him pragmatically, various Sunnis in his patronage network, and regular people either coerced or cajoled into it.

He was backed by Iran in exchange for further influence, an open lane to supply its Shiite proxies, like Hezbollah (via Iraq), and as a geopolitical ally and counterweight to the western gulf states. Also, to a lesser extent, by Russia (who operate a port in Syria), China and other contrarians.

Green is almost everyone else: dozens of armed groups with grandiose names and wide-ranging political views, from moderate Islamists to hardcore Islamists. You think I'm kidding. No joke, every single Sunni Arab anti-Assad group at the time had some flavor of Islamic flavoring. The "moderate" guys wore short beards, listened to music and took American funds while beheading Alawites whereas the hardcore guys beheaded music listeners and moderates too :marseyladybugshrug:

The rebels held the suburbs - but not centers - of Damascus (capital) and Aleppo (second biggest city), the rural north (Sunni and neglected under Assad) and various positions in between. They were supported by wealthy gulf donors, Turkey, who gave them a free hand to cross the border and engage in commerce, and western powers like America and Europe. Like any non-state group they engaged in their fair share of smuggling, petty crime, taxation and tolls.

Yellow are the Kurds, who varied politically and religiously but always put their Kurdishness first. Initially, they were anti-Assad due to years of oppression, etc. but seeing how the Islamists treated them turned them more pragmatic. Poor guys, nobody except Israel likes them :(

There were also some Druze in the south, under the green faction for convenience.

:marseyinvisible: 2014: Rise-is of ISIS

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Some ex-al Qaeda members in Iraq, battle-hardened and bored, saw an opportunity in the power vacuum to free Sunnis from Assad, which in practice became freeing them from their more lenient Sunni overlords (rebel militias proving an easier target than a theoretically professional army). Within a few months, they bulldozed most of the Syrian rebel factions in the east, turning their sights onto and humiliating Iraq as well.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17329569030372145.webp

At their height that winter ISIS was wrecking Arab armies everywhere and about to demolish Kobane / Ayn al Arab (one of the three Kurdish cantons). They did so much nasty shit there's no point in mentioning or cataloging it. IIKYK, if not, have a listicle I haven't read from google. Many locals felt some kinda way about their behavior but couldn't do much without getting beheaded. However, besides a huge number of foreign volunteers from shitholes like Chechnya and Tunisia, they also had local support from true believers, Shia-haters and those who appreciated unified governance over the mess of squabbling factions which had preceded it.

The Western reaction was wholly negative, so much so that even stodgy bureaucrats, Assad opponents, and kumbaya-singing libcucks from cowardly first world nations were galvanized into action. In September, 26 countries met in Paris and agreed to started bombing ISIS heavily; the US also bullied Turkey into letting the Kurds take their shit back.

:marseyinvisible: 2015: Meh

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Not much changed this year. Besides Kurdish successes, the rebels took Idlib and consolidated in the south with the Druze. Most of the rebel-Assad line of battle was very low intensity, like Ukraine today. Neither side had the manpower, weaponry or supplies to engage in a more serious manner. In Iraq, the jihadis suffered multiple serious defeats by Shiite paramilitaries and the army.

I'm mostly not covering other name and branding changes in this article but (since it might come up later) in exchange for American support the Kurds accepted some token Arab groups and rebranded as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in October.

:marseyinvisible: 2016: Two more weeks

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There was a ceasefire most of the first half of the year, everyone focussing on beating ISIS. You'll notice a large green swath in the south: a Jordanian-trained, Western-aligned, U.S.-led opposition group. When the greenbacks started coming in, they spun off from the Allahu Akbar brigade, traded bobbing their heads 5 times a day for a pair of raybans and never looked back. No bullshit, check the article, their predecessor organization was literally called that. 'Moderates' :marseyaware:

They remain there to this day.

The latter part of the year offensives ramped up against the jihadis.

:marseyinvisible: 2017: Bye-SIS

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Mainly Assad and the Kurds benefitted from pushing ISIS' shit in, with the exception of that small green slice up north: Erdogan's belated decision to establish a direct Turkish proxy instead of broadly supporting the opposition. That said, progress was slow as mutual enemies proceeded cautiously. That changed in July, when America and Russia agreed to a ceasefire to focus on the jihadis. Crucially, America agreed to stop funding and supplying most rebel groups. By then, ISIS had lost the north side of the Euphrates and many key positions, but still retained their capital, Raqqa, and significant territory within Syria and Iraq.

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By the end of the year that was gone too. The terrorists were defeated, and all they'd accompished in the long run was a transfer of Sunni Arab land to Alawites and Kurds.

:marseyinvisible: 2018: Tits-urkey and Butt-ad

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Turkey was pissed off at the success the Kurds were having and the fact PKK (Kurdish rebels from Turkey) fighters were a large part of the Kurdish army. Also, 3 to 4 million Syrian refugees had fled to Turkey, where they were causing societal issues !chuds and !nooticers might recognize. Consequently, they invaded Ifrin (the leftmost canton), kicked out the Kurds and resettled many refugees there.

Meanwhile Assad took the opportunity to wipe out any rebel pockets left south of Idlib/Aleppo. By and large, he seemed the biggest winner of a multi-year debacle which had left hundreds of thousands dead, an economy destroyed, and many millions fled in all directions, but Assad still in office and in control of the majority of the country and its population, and in negotiations with the Kurds, who'd earned some crucial respect and were angling for autonomy (obviously, independence was a non-starter, given the small size of Syrian Kurdistan, hostile neighbords, lack of port and the presence of Arab factions within the SDF).

:marseyinvisible: 2019: Sunni shenanigans

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You'll notice a splotch of c*m on the green; over the course of the year, HTS (a Salafi Islamist group that had, unlike ISIS, renounced global jihad) mostly subdued other rebels in the Idlib area. I haven't mentioned inter-rebel fighting in the interests of brevity and sanity but you should know Wikipedia acerbically calls this the "fifth inter-rebel conflict." Keep that in mind when @sandkwinn and other 80-iq antisemites call for pan-Arabism, peace with Hamas, and the like. Arabs couldn't peacefully unify in a single PROVINCE while having 1. the exact same ideology, religion and langage and 2. least two, maybe four serious external enemies in common including a bloodthirsty tyrant and the world's worst terrorist organization.

Also, Turkey expanded their foothold in the east to a 30-km "buffer zone." The Kurds reacted by letting Assad's troops in to reestablish their presence alongside SDF forces throughout much of northern Syria. Notably, throughout the whole war, Turkey refused to consider a full invasion of Syria or direct, serious confrontation with Assad (for boring reasons), so this was basically ensuring an end to Turkish incursions in exchange for letting Assad back in the hen house.

In October, Trump's Navy SEALs capped Baghdadi in Idlib. The world rejoiced.

:marseyinvisible: 2020: :flame#thrower2: :marseyturkroach:

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Assad, with serious Russian support, pushed up on Idlib, and the Kurds let him operate in even more of their territory. Dozens of Turks got merked by the Russians (probably on accident), causing a diplomatic rift and retaliatory bombing of Syrian gov't positions.

:marseyinvisible: 2021-2024: Nothing ever happens

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The frontlines stabilized and fossilized, most direct conflict ending.

Sanctions of Assad's economy caused him to increasingly rely on the production and distribution of Captagon (meth / adderall type stim) to the gulf for foreign currency. Deciding their shit wasn't fricked enough, G-d sent them some earthquakes.

The Kurds mostly acknowledged Assad's suzerainty in case of a war with Turkey while retaining their militias and local administration. Occasional skirmishes against the Syrian Army and between Kurds and Arabs within the SDF continued.

HTS "unified" Idlib - in the bare minimum sense that the 11 other factions there acknowledged their superior position while remaining independent - and started professionalizing their army, integrating drones and shit.

The American proxies sit in the desert guarding a CIA listening post and the only direct road from Baghdad to Damascus.

Everyone got bored and stopped checking r/syriancivilwar.

:chud#itsover:

UNTIL THIS WEEK :mars!#eyscream:

:marseyinvisible: Wednesday, November 27th

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Neighbors in the loop saw on X that HTS had launched a small offensive in the villages west of Aleppo, catching a mostly-demobilized Syrian army by surprise and capturing a few bases, some dozens of soldiers, vehicles and equipment commensurate with a raid of that size.

Most tweets are already deleted but there were some fun vids of them beating captives, a dead Russian or two, spoils of war etc. Nobody thought anything of it. We're all used to these shitty little propaganda raids from two-bit outfits in BIPOC parts of the world like Myanmar and Ukraine. You'd have to be mainling copium to expect anything more given the shit performance of the rebels the past decade and a half... right?

:marseyinvisible: Thursday, November 28th

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I was busy mowing the lawn, trimming trees and hedges, weeding, cleaning out the AC drain and, like all Americans, having Thanksgiving dinner. Turkey, not Syria, was on my mind.

Turkey was on the Syrian National Army's mind too, which is to say they were grateful Turkey did not take advantage of the fact HTS was overrunning their entire shit west of Aleppo, maybe the only bright side of the debacle so far. It seems the consolidation of the past few years paid off - HTS used better equipment, were better trained, and had drones and operators never before seen in sandshit outside Israel. The advance showed no signs of stopping.

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Suheil al-Hasan was spotted near the front - the pro-Russian commander of the "elite" Tiger Forces and somewhat of a civil war celebrity.

They reached within 7km of Aleppo's center, killing and plundering on the way. Many Syrian army guys got caught with their pants down - an Arab specialty, to whom discipline outside of active combat is a foreign concept.

https://old.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/1h25kga/dead_kia_as_regime_truck_ambushed_somewhere_in/

It looks like they knocked off an Iranian general...

Meanwhile the Turks and Kurds got spooked...

:marseyinvisible: Friday, November 29th

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HTS continued their excursion in Aleppo:

Freeing their neighbors (and some hos) from the torture prisons:

https://old.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/1h2vzk2/tariq_bin_ziyad_prison_near_alrahman_mosque/

Capturing mad shit:

https://old.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/1h2aidp/videos_of_some_of_the_20_tanks_captured_by_rebels/

And the police HQ:

https://old.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/1h2v880/hts_fighters_captured_the_aleppo_police/

Laughable showing by Assad honestly.

https://old.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/1h2yxyi/rebels_caught_a_soldier_in_aleppo_who_had_been/

Most importantly, THEY TOOK THE CITADEL! This dumb butt castle or something was held by the regime the entire fricking war. It's almost unbreachable (by middle eastern standards) if properly defended. Big propaganda coup for the rebs.

:marseyinvisible: The future...?

Are Islamists (HTS), Turkey (SNA) and the Kurds (SDF) - the most unlikely allies - really going to campaign together against Assad? After 13 years during which zero cooperation took place between anyone, including at times when a slight intervention by, say, Turkey or Israel would have toppled the dictator? Or is this all hype and nothing ever happens? Will Assad counterattack with Russian or Iranian help and kick these neighbors back to Idlib?

:marseyit#soverwereback:

No one knows :shmleep:

P.S. @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE please teach your mans how to spell drumstick

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EFFORTPOST Extremely long reply to: I've rewatched all of star trek multiple times over the past few weeks. What should I watch now?

[EDIT: I'm adding shows as people suggest them but sticking to ones I've actually seen and can vouch for.]

Number one pick: Space Above and Beyond. It's largely about WW2 (they will mention during the show stuff like this "hey this is like Guadalcanal") and Vietnam but told as sci-fi which gives them the opportunity to open it up to other stories. Made by Morgan & Wong, the guys who did all the really good parts of the X-Files. Hence the nerd in "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" (best episode of tv ever) wearing this t-shirt.

Probably the most underrated TV show of all time. It's not just the same stock war movie characters you've seen since the 1940s, there's interesting stuff going on. Much of it was very directly ripped off for Battlestar Galactica. Canceled after one season in a pretty epic ending.

You may have seen me post my crippled brother Col. McQueen describe how I feel about slumming it with you tards:

Other sci-fi shows from that era that you may have overlooked (at least I did). I ignored these at the time because Trek had my expectations too high, but they're quite watchable:

  • Stargate SG-1 - Doesn't take itself as seriously as Star Trek but in a good way. It's fun. The problem is you've got to watch the episodes in order because you have to actually know the lore.

  • Total Recall 2070 - Blade Runner turned into a TV show, except they couldn't get the rights to Blade Runner so they bought another Philip Peepee property. Very underrated. Maybe the closest to a Star Trek show on this list.

  • Battlestar Galactica - As I said earlier, ripped off a lot from SAAB. It was kind of a breath of fresh air at the time as it was a little bit more real and post-9-11 than the slop we'd been served before. Goes off the rails toward the end because the writers had no idea what to do. Stop watching when you get to a plot twist that's just too much for you.

  • Earth: Final Conflict - I've only seen maybe 15 episodes but it's got some interesting stuff going on. The best depiction I've ever seen of how an alien invasion would really work.

  • The Outer Limits (1990s) - Surprisingly really good, actually better than the original probably. I totally missed this back when it was on. I guess it wasn't broadcast here.

  • Max Headroom - Late 1980s cyberpunk show. Pretty good. To me one of the most interesting things about sci-fi is what it says about the time when it was made. It's very interesting for that. That era when people involved with computers understood the internet was coming soon and the general public had a vague idea that it was.

  • Farscape - I've seen scattered episodes and I'm ambivalent. I do not like the puppet aliens. There's a reason why in Star Trek the aliens are all just people with ridges on their forehead or funny hats. But there's a few episodes of this I got sucked into and really liked. I intend to watch more.

Older TV shows that must be watched (that aren't completely obvious):

  • The Rockford Files - A couple weeks ago I was talking to this random old boomer on the train and I was like "Man, how about the Rockford Files." And he's like "James Garner amirite." And I'm like "We don't have anyone that cool anymore." Private investigator who is a gigachad but also vulnerable and half the time he's clueless about what's going on and getting the shit beaten out of him. Has some very high-brow episodes.

  • Hawaii Five-O - Again, cop show with better scripts, actors, people giving a shit than usual and a fascinating setting.

  • Columbo - The mystery genre flipped around on its head. You see who committed the murder in the beginning. The mystery is how Detective Columbo is going to catch him. It's based on the interplay between Peter Falk's Columbo, who fakes being an annoying slob, against the guest star playing the murderer who is just as good. You'll recognize a lot: Montalban, Shatner, Nimoy, Vaughn, McGoohan, let's see... Culp, Landau... basically all the top actors of the time. Even if it doesn't sound interesting, give it a try.

  • The Outer Limits (1960s) - An inferior rip-off of The Twilight Zone, but still pretty good most of the time. If nothing else, watch the episode that James Cameron ripped off to make Terminator just to see how he never had any good ideas of his own.

  • Relic Hunter - Tia Carrere is being Indiana Jones but she also needs to take her shirt off at least once an episode. Surprisingly good for what it is.

  • Honey West - Early 1960s show with Anne Francis (of Forbidden Planet, Twilight Zone, etc.) as a sexy private detective who has a pet ocelot and a pet man. Again, fascinating if nothing else for seeing how a female action hero was depicted then.

Cop shows:

  • The Shield - A team of corrupt LAPD detectives against all the scum on the street and their honest fellow cops. Remarkably realistic about how people really are. No Hannibal Lecter genius cannibals.

  • Miami Vice - There's actually a lot of overlap between the writers here and TNG. It's a cop show in an interesting setting where they just try a little harder than usual. The writers, directors, everyone is just about 50% better than usual.

Korean and Japanese dramas:

If you're willing to step outside your comfort zone a little, there's endless hours of great content out there. This is what I did when I'd run out of American TV to watch. I don't watch as much anymore but I can recommend lots of stuff.

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But he has got used to handling firearms. "Anyone can shoot," he says. "It's hitting the target I'm not so good at."The situation on the front lines is widely accepted to be as difficult as at any time since the early days of the war, with many fearing a significant Ukrainian retreat may soon be inevitable.

That guy has some top tier humour

I always find it wild that there are people who claim to be "pro-Ukrainian" but completely ignore the reality of the situation ( just go to worldnews). I was shocked reading a story ( in the Kyiv Post!) about how at least ~100,000 Ukrainian civilians have returned to occupied territory. They fly to Russia then go via land back home.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/42704

In the literal article it explained the reasons why people were returning because it interviewed the people returning. And mostly it was due to them just not being able to live in Ukraine. Nowhere to live, no support from the government and skyrocketing food prices

So they moved to Russia because it's simply easier to live there for them.

It's interesting seen Redditors realising things ain't looking good for Ukraine

And as always when bodies are traded

Ukraine gets way more bodies like every single exchange.

Here previous exchange

Meduza is pro western

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17329025789640136.webp

This is from October

But best part Biden administration now telling Ukrainian to lower the mobilisation age to 18

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I wrote before that at one point khohols will hate west more than Russian and it's slowly happening.

Ukraine was promised by Boris Johnson that they will win. But now Ukraine is in worse situation than in 2022 and it desperately trying to regain 2022 March situation to sign a peace deal. Than west telling them to kill them self by mobilising their future that they already almost lost. Just look objectively, boy that is today 18 was 15 when it started, his parents probably brought him to EU where he is finishing school/starting college. So age group 18-21 has huge hole and after the first time to mobilisation age was lowered, desertion went up and now there are daily attacks on mobilisation organisation.

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Also they tried to get help from Korea even by creating that story of North Koreans are about to attack Ukraine at any moment for 2 months now.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17329025811598275.webp

Majority of Ukrainian now are ready to sign a deal with Putin and don't want to fight anymore.

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Kurakhove is good as gg. Ukraine did put some of its elite soldiers to hold it but it made Velyka Novosilka weaker

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Russian will turn this city in to a FOB

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Russian will get this territory with ease under its control and go after Pokrovske (don't confuse with Pokrovsk) capturing of Pokrovske will cuck Zaphorochie city and help Russia isolating it.

In north Russian crossed oskol river in multiple points

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Basically annulation of the great Kharkiv counteroffensive greatest achievements

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Chasiv yar is also in shit

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Toretsk is last true OG fortress under Ukraine and things don't look good

Zelenskyy even fired his ground force general today and replaced him

Ukraine now is in giga shit situation. Ukraine in their best case scenario with lowering mobilisation age can get 250k men. When they lowered from 27 to 25 they expected 500k men. There was some logic behind why in 25-27 are more people than in 18-25

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Their demographic is frick up.

But let's assume they decide to do it and it's absolutely best case scenario. For Russian that means 250k Ukrainian man till total attrition war victory. Russia will get whole Ukraine.

They fricking dreaming about 2022 March deal now. But western media tries telling them it was bad deal :marseyxd:

So Trump peace deal won't work. Zelensky can't sign a document that will officially give Russian Crimea. Putin won't agree on anything other than official recognition. Giving Ukraine more weapons won't do shit, they got over 1000 tanks from west, ammunition they are getting are straight out factories, they got like 80% of western air defence ammunition, we now don't even get reports what Ukraine is getting because probably over half of m777 are in Ukraine and over 800 Bradley's no other nato country except US is as well equipped as Ukraine yet they failed to liberate a single town with all that gear.

Also west now don't tell what Ukraine is receiving so guys like this one can cope

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When simple Wikipedia that shows the absolute minimum. States clearly more than 167 leopards 2

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It won't be a surprise if Ukraine operates the most leopards per country. But for people like that guy it's easier to cope that if Ukraine receives its 38rd leopard it's going to win. With abrams the situation was more r-slurred, Russian captured like 10 abrams and visually fully destroyed 30 so -40 abrams and Ukraine officially only got 31 so they decided to bump it to 80 but it's clearly over 100.

So giving more weapons won't change anything Russian are now stronger they drone mog Ukrainian by x20. Ukraine won't liberate anything. Their main problem is they are out of men. For a lot of Ukrainians now it's even better to live infer Putin than die under Zelenskyy.

They kinda have no way out. If they decide to sign a July 2024 Putin deal, Putin will offer a new deal that they can't sign so it's grinding time for them.

The moral of story, it's important to know when to stop gambling. Defeating Russian in Kiev was already a miracle for them. But they thought it was their skills and they will defeat Russian :marseyjanny2:

There is a saying

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/ Otto von Bismarck

Beautiful that it was posted on September 2023

When @pizzashill coped with counteroffensive

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Edit just now :marseyhappening: :marseyhappening: :marseyhappening:

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This is also interesting cope.

500 Patriot missiles that were build this year went straight to Ukraine for free so in some ways the money went to Ukraine and to weapons factories owners and the losers were tax payers

Like for real how did media and gov was able to sell this bs as something good :marseyxd: it's like average citizen knows nothing about economy

Community Note by @Energizer

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In case for some reason you haven't heard of this guy by now, Andrew Tate is a notorious s*x trafficker and even worse, a rightoid grifter. He's made an entire career saying "women bad, lgbt bad" and profiting off the chuds who clap like seals when he says these things

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"behold, the savior of the whvte rvce"

Most of his income comes from his platform "The Real World" (formerly Hustler's University) an online university that supposedly teaches you how to get rich. In reality it's just a groomercord clone built from stolen code where a bunch of chuds teach each other basic economic skills and crypto bullshit and engage in the same terminally online gay behavior that occurs on groomercord.

Recently "The Real World" was hacked with a bunch of data leaked and made publicly available. You can read more about this here: https://rdrama.net/post/319407/hackers-breach-andrew-tates-online-universityobtain

With 325,000 users' emails supposedly in this leak, I decided to do some quick analysis on his fan base to test my hypothesis that they're mostly brown people like Tate himself.

How I obtained my data

1. Downloaded the leaked files and scraped them for email addresses.

2. Parsed all the email addresses, and extracted names from emails in the 'firstname.lastname@ email.xxx' format. I could have probably done this in a more sophisticated way but... I couldn't be fricked lol. I got a total of 67,000 names from this method so overall not too bad I guess.

:#marseytype: :#marseytype: me writing code. (I'm legitimately r-slurred at this point and need chatGPT to do literally everything for me)

Analysis

With my list of names, I thought the best way to determine whiteness would be through the last names, but looking through the most frequently occurring names it was either shit like "crypto", "business", "shop", or just random gibberish. I decided to try using first names instead

In order to determine if a first name was "white" or "brown", I decided to just do it based on my own judgement, going through a list of the most frequently occurring names and labeling them as either "W", "B", or "I" (inconclusive). I was pretty picky when it came to labeling a name as "white", for example I felt a name like "Alex" was probably just a bit too common/multicultural at this point to be considered a white name while a giga-crakkker name like "Kyle" or "Jeremy" was.

The final step was to just run this flagging system against the total list of names, and the results were...... drumroll please

:#marseydrum: :#marseydrum: :#marseydrum: :#marseydrum: :#marseydrum:

White Name Count: 9807

Brown Name Count: 3907

HOLY CRAP!!! I WAS COMPLETELY WRONG AND ANDREW TATE FANS ARE CRACKERS?????

Not the result I was expecting, but interesting nonetheless.

Some Other Insights

Alex, Daniel, David, Adam and Michael are the most common names appearing on the list of users, however that isn't particularly interesting considering they are some of the most common names. NOAH might be the Tate fanboy official name, despite not even being on the list of 1,000 most common names, it's the #29th most popular name on"The Real World", appearing 106 times

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"look at this fricking chud"

as you might imagine, this entire list is dominated by male names. Out of all the names I went through manually, "Andrea is the only female name that I saw. Apparently it's a male name in some parts of the world which may explain this, but it's funnier to imagine women named "Andrea" are chuds :chudette:

I had a lot of fun doing this tbh and keen for any feedback/insights on potential issues with my process and what u might have done differently

TLDR IM NOT READING THIS SHIT; ANDREW TATE FANS ARE WHITE LOL :#marseymayo: :#marseymayo: :#marseymayo: :#marseymayo: AND I'VE PROVEN IT WITH SCIENCE :#marseyrick: :#marseyrick: :#marseyrick:

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EFFORTPOST Dragon Age Veilguard Let's Play II

So, this is a bit late, I celebrated Thanksgiving a week early so didn't have time to play, so let's pick up where we left off.

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So it's well known that, at some point, this game was planned to be a live service title. You can see a bit of that in the faction areas.

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You earn rep, there are rep grinds, and unlock rep tiers, to get new items from rep merchants. Kinda like Destiny.

The Veil Jumpers want us to find their missing remembers a check in on a town that's gone dark. All your current party members (4) come with, which makes me wonder why they reduced the party size to 3 :marseyhmm:. On the way to the village the game takes the opportunity to show case 1 of the only 2 thing your party members are good for. Puzzles, kinda, will get to that later.

I'll say this about the art direction of it really does take the bite out of the mysticism and grandeur of a lot of thrse places we've only heard about in the previous games [emphasis on games]. I guess that's an inevitability when it comes to AAA soulless slop

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The blighted village segment is another talkie hallway, I guess they were trying to build atmosphere here m, but the lighting is too bright and the cringe writing prevents anything from seeming eerie like blighted infestation used to be.

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It ends with what a lot of people are calling a moral quandary, it's not really as rook is hard coded as good in their background, but yeah you get to choose to either free the mayor or leave him to die.

We return to the Veil Jumpers to report that the mystery neighbors have control of and are spreading the blight. Nostalgia then makes a cameo

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I saw a crow flying around throughout arlathan and suspected it was her. :marseysmirk2: As one would imagine, since near not a darn thing carries over from the previous games her appearance boils down to "Remember me tis I Morrigan, witch of the wilds, I'm important!"

We're nudged to return to the ritual site to find a mcguffin. At this point the skill tree is made available to me.

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It creates the illusion of depth, lots of increase by 5% and all that crap, not much in the way if actual abilities and what little there are pretty underwhelming, and doesn't nothing more than scratch the enemy. I suspect this is largely due to me playing rogue. I felt all the promotional materials leading up to the game and the stylistic choices when it comes to abilities were encouraging to player to play a mage. The mage, from what I've seen, seems to have the most thought put into it as well. You get 3 mage party members in this game though so frick that.

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We encounter more new darkspawn, look how they massacred my hurlock boi. At this point enemies become more spongey, particularly the Hurlocks that engage in spear chucking. The bow is this game low key kinda shit. It's like a shitty version of the Kingdoms of Amalur bow, particularly because Veilguard combat is largely dueling, like stellar blade, where as Kingdoms of Amalur is more action packed and the bow is meant to integrated into combos with other attacks, same can't be said for the Veilguard which results in one-sided sniper battles. The ranged units aren't any softer upclose either, and the game's parry system shits itselfif a ranged enemy is compelled to shoot you point blank.

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After traversing the rest of the ruins we finally corner the ghoul who to Solas' mcguffin. This boss fight was kinda tedious, not a fan of bosses dipping out for a bit and summoning henchmen to distract you especially in multiple phases. After the first phase Harding pick up the mcguffin and turn into bullshit. I DID like how she girl bosses you out the way though.

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This is when the game introduces the only other feature that companions are good for, combos.

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This pretty much the extent of the combat usefulness of your party members, which is what I suspected would be the case when I saw the companions didn't have health bars in the gameplay reveal. I really hated this aspect about thw mass effect games, squadmates by and large just felt like dead weight compared to party members in other RPGs and you have even less control over your party in the Veilguard, and not only that their abilities are a on a global cooldown as well, so you're resigned to watching the spectacle of your party member leaping around launching impotent attacks dramatically while doing something actually worthwhile once every 60 seconds or so. Rook's abilities are fortunately not constrained in this manner, at least on the rogue.

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So we beat the boss, retrieve the mcguffin get a scene with tge mystery neighbors, which I got to say, Ghilan'nain looks pretty cool. With the mcguffin in hand you now can use it to emulate any unlocked companions unique puzzle power, making them even more useless :marseyembrace: We return to the lighthouse and I decide to change my Rook's hair.

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Have another conversation with Solas and then set off following leads on the mystery neighbors around Thedas this leads us to the crossroads

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which is a sort of hub area between the various zones in the game. It has side content of its own, which are mostly flashbacks of Solas' rebellion against the gods

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He had hair back then. These are kinda shit, narratively, so far, they do really portray the world Solas described at the end of trespasser and as of now are only focusing on the two currently free mystery neighbors and not the rest pantheon. From the crossroads we can unlock Treviso and Dock Town for now.

Treviso is

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Seems they didn't completely nerf the cake in this game :marseycoomer2: The Qunari military has invaded Treviso for some reason. Antiva has now standing army, just the reputation of it's infamous assassin's guild, :marseysmirk2: a reputation that's changed for the altruistic. This once pragmatic league of assassins have now take on responsibility of protecting the citizens from the qunari and disturbing le heckin' wholesome shelter and welfare.

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The crows tell you of Lucanis one of their mage killers that's locked in a underwater prison. Like most underwater sections in my experience, this place kinda sucks, it's boring and tedious to navigate through (yes I'm aware it is a circle, but it's a lumpy disjointed circle. Lucanis doesn't preform any better as a melee character than the, thus far range party members I've been working with so far. The final boss of the area is the most bullet spongy enemy I fought so far and he's protected by a barrier which I'm apparently supposed to use my rubber band arrows against. After about 25 minutes of peppering this dude I finally beat him and get lucanis as a companion.

Next stopDock Town

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I get Dock Town is a slum but it really doesn't live up to the hype of tevinter that the 2018 showed off with all the magical neon signs and such.

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This mission ends in another mage boss fight, though thankfully not as bullet spongy, just henchman spamming. With these two missions complete the game opens up and let's you engage in side missions.

I decided to help out neve in Dock Town. This turned out to be another talkie hallway mission, and there's a pattern here, as all companion's first missions are like this.

Decide on ripping the bandaid off of the black character immediately, and went on the mission to recruit Davrin.

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So far he's okay on his own, and I really like his interaction with shrimp fried rice, a good depiction of elves from the sane culture, but different clans and circumstances in life, for this game at least. I didn't realize however that recruiting Davrin would immediately railroad me into a major choice involving the fate of two major cities and the side quest with in them :marseyrope:.

I spring for Neve's city and was confronted by the spongiest most bullshit boss fight thus far.

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After finally chipping away at enough of this b-word's hp to trigger her retreat the gang heads back to Treviso to find it fricked up. Lucanis is surprisingly level headed about things, but leaves the party for a bit and is hardened. I'll pause her for now and hopefully pick up sometime later next week. So far the game suffers from the same slow start inquisition did, but doesn't have the mechanical depth or the filler to experience it in of that game. There are few plot hooks however the motivate me to keep on trudging along.

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EFFORTPOST The Military Dictatorship of Chile Part 1 - The Prelude (1960-1973) :marseyflagchile: :marseypinochet:

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May 22nd, 1960. At 15:11, near the town of Traiguén, located at what nowadays is the Region of Araucanía, tectonic rupture occurred. The result was a powerful earthquake, it scored a magnitude of 9.5 Mw, the highest ever recorded in human history. The earthquake triggered a tsunami wave, around 30 ft tall traveling at a speed of around 95 miles per hour. The earthquake also moved the Earth's axis by 3cm.

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The Valdivia Earthquake (names after the town of Valdivia) ended up destroying most of the towns in Southern Chile. On May 28th the local newspaper "La Cruz del Sur" published a preliminary report on the victims. 962 killed, 1410 missing, 140 injured, this as far as the authorities were aware up to the date. :marseysad:

Welcome to the Republic of Chile

:marseyflagchile#:

Greetings dramatards, as promised here starts or journey into what would become one of the most famous dictatorships of the Americas, the Chilean Military Junta. But before getting into the story of our infamous General and his Junta de Gobierno, first it's time to cover the basics of how Chile came to the point of democratic rupture. So let's start giving some context. :marseyreading:

By the early 1960s Chile was a poor country. It wasn't the poorest in Latin America and while it fared better than most of the South American continent, the fact remained that it lagged far behind Argentina and Uruguay, the only countries which by that time counted with a large middle class. Chile was highly unequal and a significant portion of its population was still rural with peasants moving to the outskirts of Santiago forming what was known as "campamentos", basically shanty towns, favelas. :marseypoor:

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Chile's upper class what still composed by a few selective families from the colonial period (mostly of Basque origin) and rather new families of 19th century immigrant background (mostly from Britain, Germany, Croatia, etc) which also made up a big part of its small middle-class.

Despite all this, Chile was still a robust democracy. The constitution in effect at the time was the 1925 constitution which leads us to the Chilean government of the early 1960s.

The then President of Chile was Jorge Eduardo Alessandri Rodríguez.

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Born in Santiago de Chile in 1896, he was the son of the late politician Arturo Alessandri Palma (1868-1950), who also served as President of the Republic between 1920 to 1925, and then again from 1932 to 1938.

Jorge Alessandri was elected President in the 1958 election. Under the 1925 Constitution the President of Chile was elected by a majority of 50%+ of the popular vote, if all candidates failed to achieve the 50% threshold, then Congress would elect the President, which is exactly what happened in 1958.

Alessandri was an independent, but he was supported by a coalition of right-wing parties :marseychud:

The results of the popular vote of the 1958 were:

Jorge Alessandri Rodríguez - 31.56% :chudsmug#:

Salvador Allende Gossens - 29.85% :#marseycomradecry:

Eduardo Frei Montalva - 20.70% :marseygrilling2#:

The resulting vote in Congress was Alessandri getting 147 votes and Allende getting 26. Salvador Allende was the candidate for the Socialist Party of Chile and a coalition of left-wing parties, while Eduardo Frei Montalva was a candidate for the PDC, (Partido Democráta Cristiano) or Christian Democratic Party which was a socially conservative but economically centrist political party.

Alessandri's style was what he nicknamed "gerencia" or "management", the point of which was to manage Chile as if it were a private company. By the early 1960s Chile was in dire need of reform, and the Valdivia Earthquake wasn't of help. After the earthquake Alessandri went to the US and got aid thanks to President John F. Kennedy and his "Alliance for Progress" program, which included 422 million dollars to help the damaged of Chile. The Chekhov earthquake also triggered the arrival of another important actor of this story later on… :marseybinos:

The Alliance for Progress programs also promoted certain policies, among the most important of them, land reform. In 1962 which was also the year where Chile was host of the World Cup, Alessandri signed the first land reform bill which was rather modest on its reach. By the end of his term he felt like Chile needed deeper structural reforms if they were to develop as their agriculture was lagging behind, he also oversaw projects of public housing in urban areas. However Alessandri's disapproval increased while left-wing parties grew stronger.

The 1964 Presidential Election

By 1964 there was a growing fear of Allende being elected. The Conservative Coalition was unpopular and of the top of the recent Cuban Revolution, left-wing guerrilas began to sprang up in Chile, like the MIR (Movimiento Revolucionario de Izquierda). Due to this, the rightoid candidate of that year, Julio Durán, decided to withdraw from the race and support the based centrist Eduardo Frei Montalva.

Eduardo Nicanor Frei Montalva was born in Santiago in 1911. He was the son of a swiss immigrant, Eduardo Frei Schlinz, and a Chilean woman, Victoria Montalva Martínez. After getting support from Durán he unknowingly got another ally, the United States of America and the CIA :marseyusa: :marseycia:

In order to help Frei Montalva's campaign, the CIA secretly funneled 2.6 million dollars to his campaign, along another 3 million dollars on anti-Allende political propaganda. This was done according without his knowledge lmao.

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The final results of the 1964 election were:

Eduardo Frei Montalva - 56.09% :#marseygrilling2:

Salvador Allende Gossens - 38.93% :#marseycomradecry:

Julio Durán Neumann - 4.98% :chuditsover#:

Frei Motalva was sworn in as President of the Republic on November 3rd of that same year.

Back then the President of Chile lasted 6 years in office and couldn't be consecutively re-elected. This becomes important later on :marseynotes:

Frei Montalva begin what he called "Revolution in Liberty", placing an emphasis in improving education (over 3,000 schools were built during his presidency), social housing (over 130k units) and unionization. Union membership in Chile rose from 270,000 in 1964 to 550,000 in 1970 (by the latter date Chile had a population of around 9.8 million inhabitants). Another achievement was the reduction of child mortality from 103 per 100k to 79 per 100k.

He nationalized electrical companies and electrical input in Chile increased 50% during his presidency. There was also a huge investment to develop the steel industry (steel production increased from 620,000 metric tons to over a million).

Finally we arrive at other strong points of his administration, land reform and the nationalization of copper. Frei Montalva signed his first land reform bill in 1966 (expropriating and distributing 3.5 million hectares) and proceeded with a process called "chilenización" or chilenization of copper.

Copper to this day Chile's most important and valuable export :marseyminer:, back in the days the mines belonged to American multinationals. Frei Montalva created the "Corporación Nacional del Cobre" (CODELCO) and implemented a partial nationalization. The idea was to buy Chilean mines or to expropriate and indemnify multinationals to a point where the Chilean state would own 51% of the copper. Chilenization began in 1965 and the partial nationalization in 1969.

The year 1969 was the stage of a minor insurrection by the army against the government, due to poor equipment and salaries, showing some clashes the armed forced already had with the government along their dissatisfaction.

The 1970 Presidential Election

In the year 1965 the Movimiento de Izquierda Revolucionaria (MIR) was founded, with the goal of overthrowing the government by means of armed struggle in order to install a communist regime. Salvador Allende however kept insisting on getting power through legitimate means. In 1970 his coalition was the Unidad Popular (Popular Union) or UP. It was composed by the Socialist Party, the Communist party and other minor leftoid parties of Chile :marseysoyhype:

Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens was born in Santiago in 1908, like most of the Chilean politicians, he belonged to an old money family with roots going back to the colonial era, the Allendes. He studied medicine :marseydoctor: at the University of Chile and was part of the founding of the Socialist Party of Chile in 1933 :marseycommunist:

The rightoid candidate that year was good old Jorge Alessandri who by then was 74 years old and was suffering from some health issues. People mocked his ability to govern while Allende and co criticized Frei Montalva for not going far enough with his reforms (a.k.a. going full commie).

Alessandri was accused by leftoids of being senile and having early onset parkinson, meanwhile the PDC candidate was Radimiro Tomic :marseyflagcroatia:, a centre-leftist who had an informal pact with Allende.

The campaign was a bitter one and the everyone was concerned about what would be the military's position if Allende was elected. On an interview with the rightoid newspaper "El Mercurio", the then commander of the Chilean Army, General René Schneider pointed out that that the army would stand and abide by the Constitution regardless of who the winner was.

The CIA didn't support any particular candidate against Allende that year, except for funneling 350,000 dollars to Alessandri's campaign. A CIA report informed that Cuba spent 350,000 dollars on Allende and after the end of the Cold War declassified documents from the KGB showed that the Soviet Union sent 400,000 dollars to Allende's campaign through the Cubans.

Finally, election day came on September 4th, 1970, and the results were:

Salvador Allende Gossens - 36.63% :#marseydarkcomrade:

Jorge Alessandri Rodríguez - 35.29% :#chudconcerned:

Radomiro Tomic Romero - 28.08% :#marseygrilling2genocide:

Chilean chuds got into panic mode :marseycope:. Technically Congress could elect anyone as President if they failed to break the 50% threshold, but in practice they would elect the candidate who got a plurality of votes.

Alarm bells also ringed at Washington DC, where President Richard Nixon ordered to stop it from happening. The CIA then devised two plans known as "track 1" and "track 2".

Track 1 consisted in making Congress elect Alessandri, who would then proceed to immediately resign. This would trigger a snap election where the current and rather popular president, Eduardo Frei Montalva, could run again and win. This plan however failed as the PDC supported Allende on the October 24th Congress voting. This was due to an informal gentleman's agreement between Allende and Tomic, whereby one would acknowledge the other's victory if the difference was above 5,000 votes, and would only acknowledge a potential Alessandri victory if the latter won by a difference of 100,000 votes.

After this failed, track two came into scene. Meanwhile the KGB had instructions to help Allende be sworn in. Track Two consisted of creating a climate of political instability as to allow the armed forced to intervene and stop Allende from becoming president. Henry Kissinger :marseykissinger: was personally involved in the main operation which consisted of kidnapping General Schneider, the commander of the Chilean army, as a trigger for intervention (a leftoid guerrila would be blamed). General Roberto Viaux was in charge of the operation, however it failed as Scheinder resisted and he was killed. His assassination however paved the way for a different leadership in the army.

Salvador Allende was sworn in as President of the Republic on November 3rd, 1970. His government plan was one of complete nationalization of copper, but without compensation, raising wages, freezing prices, and continue mass expropriation of land but with a more aggressive approach.

In order to pass his nationalizations, he based his decrees as being authorized by the short lives 1932 "Socialist Republic" (a bogus commie government which lasted for a few months). Nationalization of copper however was passed by congress with unanimity as it was a process which was bound to happen.

The US responded with a boicot and denial of credits for Chile, however Allende managed to get gibs from the Soviet Union.

According to former KGB General Nikolai Leonov, the USSR provided financial aid in the form of 100 million dollars of credit, 3 fishing boats, new factories, 3,100 tractors and 74,000 tons of wheat.

By 1971 deficit skyrocketed from 3.5% to 9.8% and by 1972 inflation kicked in as the government began activated the money printing machine a year earlier. Then came scarcity of goods and the rise of the black market along rationing.

The increase of money circulation was of 173% in 1972 and 413% by 1973, and with it also an economic recession. Allende blamed it on hoarders. Meanwhile guerrilla groups like MIR which by then felt empowered by government and had amassed almost 100k members were pushing land reform by themselves, with the government doing little to nothing to stop them. MIR took over factories and land properties while the government refused to send the carabineros (police force). Polarization and political violence characterized his 3 years as President. Allende tried to get the USSR to invest 400 million dollars on Chile through factories and infrastructure. However by late 1972 the Soviets denied Chile any further aid requests :marseybeggar:

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In the mist of chaos, by the year 1973 a plot was being developed within the high command of the Chilean Navy, along other conspirators of the armed forces and some help of Burger glowies :marseyglow:

!historychads !anticommunists !neolibs !latinx

Who would you have voted for in the following elections

1958 Election

1964 Election

1970 election

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EFFORTPOST [EFFORTPOST] A Whore Civil War breaks out on Twitter after one whore makes a list of whores who voted for Daddy Trump.

Our story begins with a whore called Em Indica, who decided to make a list of whores in the porn industry who support Trump, obviously intending to have them blacklisted.

You can immediately see the problem with this list. Namely, it is more appropriate to call it a "List of people who have said something that made me in any way upset on the internet", as is usually the case.

Naturally, the whores being called out didn't take this lying down.

CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT TAKE THIS DOWN. @

I'm so fing grateful for the fans on here guys, thank you.

THIS POST IS HARASSMENT

LMAYO 🤣

Yo, what is @BlizzieMcguire trying to say here? "Loser Mayo"?

In all seriousness, it is obvious that Ms. Indica is trying to start a witch hunt here, and to pretend otherwise is r-slurred.

I'am French ! I can't vote in your country You're ridiculous.

This isn't about who voted, its about who's expressed love and admiration for trump. Which you have 🤷🏻‍♀️

ou're free to think what you want and so am I. Is it a trial ? I don't think what you you're doing is really legal …

Correct, and you pissed some people off. That's the consequences of your own actions

No? Where in that is it a threat?

You are telling me that I'am gonna face some consequences, I want to know what consequences are you talking about ? What's your point?

Yeah, some people aren't going to want to work with you because you support trump. That's just the way it is.

So you're telling me that her point is to make me loose my job ? Make me loose money? em_indica do you agree ?

There are people that don't want anything to do with trump supporters. It would be like someone putting you on their no list.

Wouldn't it be funny if the Trump whores decided to make a list of people who support this list and then have them counter-blacklisted. :marseyemojilaugh:

I'm proud to be on the list 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 #MAGA

Follow please I'm retired from the biz and veteran proud thanks peace and love to you. Met ya at avn a few times,

Darn, that's one thirsty boy.

Hey dumb munchkin face skank…how did we not make your commie list?

Fun fact, I once made a post about this guy and y'all seemed to like it.

I'm an extreme alt right?! 😱😂😂😂!!! RFKjr is an independent 🙄

You've literally praised Trump when he won. Sit down.

When? So people deserve to be put on a gestapo list?

So apparently you're slow too.

The future is going to be bright from Elon??!! Okay dude! And JFK slogan. Apparently your not bright.

Yeah. On a photo of him with Trump. Don't let go of that last brain cell there.

TDS!!!

Are you mad mommy might get deported?

How do you deport ashes? Asking for a friend!

You toss them over the wall? 🤷‍♂️

:marseyxd:

im sorry but do you have no life lol ? like to sit here go and look up other people to put them on a list its giving creepy AF and also you made yourself look really ignorant

True

Remove me from this list immediately

I'm not even a porn star but thanks for the inclusion

It's so nice when big creators give a shoutout to the small creators :marseywholesome:

em_indica would you mind adding me to the list please? Ty

Real interesting to see ♠️ people for trump, makes you think!

:marseythonk: Yeah, a lot of these galls are findommes and hotwives. That just proves how diverse the MAGA movement truly is.

I'm about to stick a lawyer so far up your butt remove me right now

:marseyhappening:

Am I supposed to feel bad for being on this list or something 🤣🤣

I mean, seriously.

This b-word tried to put forth another girl for the list but was too much of a kitty to @ her. :marseylaugh:

And she gets rightfully called out for that.

But then, somebody casually drops that SHE MIGHT BE THE MOST BASED WHORE IN HISTORY:

NOOOOOO WHAT ?! omg. Baddie down

Shes been an issue for a while from what Ive known. Didnt she light a sub on fire?

She also faked being trans on omegal as a "prank"

I had no idea about this jfc

Yeah I unfollowed her shortly after that and for her "jokes" about fricking her finger monkey

HOLY SHIT DRAMANAUTS! WE NEED TO FIND OUT EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS QUEEN!

It might all be a giant nothingburger though. :marseycry:

She's gonna lose a lot of money with that pledge

If this girl weren't sperging out at the Trump whores throughout this whole thread, I would have thought that she was being sarcastic.

Anyway, let's get back on track:

This completely unethical and unacceptable. Take this down. Perpetuating hate is not the answer. Ffs

Honestly, it's such a red flag that you think it is hateful to provide information like this that I am unfollowing you and will be adding you to my own list of people to not work with or trust.

NOOOOO! HOW DARE YOU NOT BE AS UNHINGED AS I AM! :marseysoycrytremble:

I wonder if any of them were paid by the Trump campaign and/or Russia

:russiarentfree:

Please enjoy our video "Grab Me by the Kitty" for free on pornhub!

Here's the video link.

You are a NAZI. I look forward to DOWNMARSEYING and NOT RECOMMEDING YOU on the 40 plus sites I am a proud #P4YP member of. WOW Hateful is one of the words you are. Also insane, take a breath. rethink this maybe. SHAME on you.

You tell her, hoss!

I don't think you have to really worry about pressing the thumbs down for this one she won't cross your feed often 😂

:taycrown:

next you should make a list of all ur fans/followers who voted opposite to your political beliefs, & block them. because why stop at being partially absurd.

Another good point. How come she's only blacklisting people who don't throw money at her?

One of the biggest lolcows in this drama is a girl called @Betty_BouncePSO, who went out of her way to bring up Project 2025 in almost every reply:

Enjoy it while you can project 2025 will ban all s*x work and porn, y'all just killed your own industry 😆

You're a weird b-word for voting for the candidate that will implement project 2025 which will ban all sexwork and porn, you killed your own industry to vote for a male feminist. 😆😆😆

Project 2025 will ban all porn and s*x work, 😆😆

Educated? Project 2025 will ban all sexwork and porn, you just put yourself out of a job 😆

Project 2025 will ban all s*x work and porn, you just voted to kill your own industry 😆😆😆

Another big lolcow is @KandyKittyXXX who absolutely sperged out at every opportunity she had (at least I think it's a "she"):

Wow the trash is really coming out probably today isn't it?

How dare you think this is about opinions. Oh right, I forgot, you're an idiot.

As I remembered I had to be a coalition to make sure that the fascist party didn't get into power in France. Being French doesn't absolve you of anything. In fact it was pretty much guess which way you voted in France.

Oh my God we got another one that makes me listen to stand how bad Donald Trump's economics are. I failed to see how your educated when you don't see how a 60% tariff is going to impact your wallet not his.

Because if their religious beliefs include bigotry, we are just as entitled to know when someone believes in a sky daddy to justify their insanity.

You know the best thing about you voting for Trump, because I know you'll continue doing porn hoping that you won't be the one arrested for it. Which means you'll be the first to be arrested for it.

The irony of your tweet coming from somebody who just supported a man who literally perpetuated hate.

How is this unethical? I want to stay as far away from these people as possible especially as I work in the industry. To me it's a blacklist that is tremendously helpful.

I don't recall her attending a rally that literally attacked every minority you could name in Madison square garden. If this is the case please show us.

To the surprise of no one, this is what she looks like:

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There are several more of these lolcows, but you get the gist of it.

Apparently, there was at least one failed attempt at defamation already.

"Ummm maybe you shouldn't joke in BAD TASTE sweaty."

Here's a blog that lists porn stars accused of sexual assault as well as acting like chuds on the internet. Clearly the same thing. it is somehow connected to this list. Don't ask me how, I have no idea.

This article points out that a person who helped co-author this list, porn star Michael Vegas, is a known abuser in the porn industry. Who would have thought? :taymindblown:

It also helps summarize this whole drama. So there.

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EFFORTPOST South Africa and the Indian Question

Hello, I've got 2 hours before work is done, and I'm too lazy to do anything productive so I'll write this quick post discussing the Indian Question in South Africa. It makes me sad that I even have to write this post because I love all races and I want to live in a multicultural rainbow nation. Unfortunatey, there are some people who are more concerned about tribal in-group bias than unity.

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Indians in South Africa

As you can imagine, Indians are not native to South Africa. Yet the country has an Indian population of close to 1.7 million. Furthermore, the South African city of Durban is one of the largest ethnically Indian-populated cities outside of India.

Indians first arrived in South Africa in 1860, during the country's colonial era. The first lot of Indians (approximately 342 of them) were brought in on a ship called the Truro, and the intention was to use the Indians as indentured workers on sugr plantations in the province of KwaZulu-Natal. Indians were originally taken from Calcutta and Madras, but eventually labour was taken from other areas of India as well. Colonial workers generally didn't give a shit about keeping proper records. Consequently, many Indian last names in South Africa are corruptions of their proper Indian last names.

Under Apartheid, Indians were subordinated, though they enjoyed better treatment than the Blacks did. Due to forced removals, Indians were forced into their own ghettoes. It is during this time that Indians started gaining the reputation of being "Jew-ish". Much like Jewish populations, they formed insular communities, small businesses, and they stopped relying on the government for services, instead building their own schools and temples. To this day, Indian-built schools produce some of the best students in the country. Consequently, a lot of wealth accumulated within Indian communities, which naturally attracted jealousy.

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Anti-Indian Racism in South Africa

Anti-Indian discrimination was certainly present during Apartheid, and it was not uncommon for Indians to be referred to using the racist term "coolie". Blacks were also racist towards Indians, and this is seen through the Durban riots of 1949 in which South Africans took to the streets to loot Indian businesses, stone Indian vehicles, and break into homes. The riots, which lasted for days, were extremely violent and involved acts of assault, r*pe, and murder. In total, 142 Indians were killed, and there were several suicides following the riots due to families being destroyed. This marks the second-deadliest massacre during Apartheid.

Naturally, one would question why the massacre happened. It's generally theorized that there was already animosity between the Indian and Black populations in Durban, and this peaked on January 13 when Harilal Basanth, a 40-year-old Indian shop-owner, smashed 14-year-old George Madondo's head into a shop window.

Do not see Indians as eternal victims, however. It's also important to note that violence during the riots wasn't one-sided and several Zulus were assaulted by Indians. Furthermore, they created the racist term "bululu" to refer to Black people. There's a new term for chuds who want to fine-tune their racism.

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The EFF and the Indian Question

Post-Apartheid, South Africa has dealt with problems of racism, but for the most part, ordinary South Africans get on with life in a multicultural society in a mostly peaceful manner. Problems arose in 2018 when the South African communist party called the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) raised the Indian Question. The EFF is led by Julius Malema, who many have foolishly been led to believe is South Africa's president. No! He was the head of the ANC's Youth League (the ANC is the African National Congress which is South Africa's ruling party since democracy was instated in 1994). During his time in the Youth League he showed himself to be a hothead not afraid to speak his mind. Here he is telling a mayo BBC to frick off with his "white tendencies".

He proved too much of a hothead to be controlled by the ANC, and he eventually formed his own party, the EFF. In the 2024 elections, they earned 10.80% of the votes. In 2018, he declared that the majority of Indians are racist.

This was met with pushback from the media and the Indian population who declared that Malema is being racist. As it usually does, the party did not back down and instead released a long statement addressing the "Indian question".

https://www.facebook.com/economicfreedomstruggle/posts/on-the-indian-question-in-south-africa-a-response-to-mob-psychologists-by-the-na/1143818679092596/

The Chairperson also released an explosive article defending Malema's comments on Indian people. Some choice quotes:

It is a historical fact that Indians arrived in the political territory we call South Africa today as indentured labourers from 1860 onwards. This automatically disqualifies them as indigenous South Africans in the same way whites, who had arrived earlier than the indentured labourers are not indigenous Africans.

Indians were brought to South Africa during the indigenous Africans Wars of resistance, and there is no record that they fought on the side of Africans. On the contrary, prominent Indian leaders like Mahatma Gandhi recognised and worshipped the colonial empire and spread ideological and political gibberish that "whites and Indians were bonded by an Aryan bloodline that had no place for the African" as empirically proved in the book The South African Gandhi: Stretcher-Bearer of Empire by Desai & Vahed, 2015. The intellectual honesty that defined these two authors while writing about Gandhi's racism escaped one of them in the immediate aftermath of calling out the Momoniat racism.

Even though Indians and whites make up the smallest sections of the population, combined they own and control more land, deciding on the racial and apartheid spatial planning. It is one thing to expose and reflect on already existing racial divisions, and it is another to divide a country that is already racially divided. All the EFF has done since its formation in 2013 is to expose these societal contradictions. It is not possible to further divide such a deeply divided country, but we can only move towards eradicating such inequality by honest and frank engagements.

There are many instances of reported anti-African racism from the Indian community in the stores, workplaces, homes, schools, which do not get reported on. Those who are recipients of Indian racism are often of subjugate economic standing and as stated in the perspective here, economic subjugation of the African majority is the root cause of anti-African racism from both white and Indian communities.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2018-06-21-on-the-indian-question-in-south-africa-a-response-to-mob-psychologists/

Pushback came in strong:

and even this annoying DEAD cuck Eusebius McKaiser decided to comment.

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Conclusion

Unfortunately, racial relations between Blacks and Indians have not improved and in 2021, there were more riots that resulted in 20 deaths. Clashes between Blacks and Indians took place in the suburb of Phoenix.

So what do you think? Are Indians in South Africa victims of anti-Indian racism? Or do Blacks have genuine reason to fight against Indians? I'd love to hear your opinion. Sorry for the relatively shitty post.

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EFFORTPOST Fascism in South Africa - Eugene Terre'Blanche and the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging [Part One]

Greetings. I hope you are well. I've been doing a lot of research on fascism lately and I've been left utterly terrified. I can see the power the political ideology has thanks to its reliance on a palingenetic rebirth myth that is very effective at uniting people and bringing them under a charismatic strong man. This shouldn't be surprising, as human beings think in terms of stories, so if you're able to tell a good story and piece together archetypes in aesthetically pleasing ways, you can make billions or rule a nation.

The problem with fascism is that it brings with it war, violence, and the death of human rights. If fascism were to take root again in the West, it could lead to another World War and this would affect everyone. I don't want mass death, nor do I want to be conscripted into the military. I'm scared of what will happen to BIPOCs, LGBT folks, and immigrants in such a scenario. The third world isn't safe either, there are dictatorships in Africa with strong militaries and these nations are teetering close to fascism, including countries like Eritrea. The Second Congo War is just a taste of how deadly things can get, as this war led to over 5.4 million deaths within 4 years, the deadliest war since WW2.

South Africa isn't exempt from the threat of fascism and there have been very active fascist parties in the country. This makes me so, so scared because I don't want civil war. Our government has enough problems to deal with. Consequently, I believe that this is the most important longpost I have ever written. Within it, I'd like to outline what fascism is and how it took root in South Africa and almost collapsed democracy before it started.

This is the first part of a two-part series. In this post we'll look into the background of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging and in the next post we'll delve into the life and death of Eugene Terre'Blanche.

Before we begin, I'd like you to complete this poll.

Do you believe your country is currently at risk of fascism?

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What is Fascism?

I have outlined a brief definition of fascism in a previous post, but I'd like to redefine it here in a little more detail. The first instance of fascism can be found in 20th-century Italy under the regime of Benito Mussolini. Benito was inspired by the works of Nietzsche and Georges Sorel. The movement arose while Itality was going through political and economic hardships. Mussolini, after returning from war, believed Italy needed a dictator to lead the nation to greatness. To do this, he would need a myth to unify the people.

He coined the term Fascist which he derived from the Latin term "Fasces" which refers to a bundle of wood. Individually, each piece of wood can be broken with ease. However, when they are bundled together, they become unbreakable.

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Pictured above is the Italian fascist symbol used by Italian fascist uniforms. Mussolini rose to power in Italy thanks to his energetic speeches and his ability to tune into the anxieties of the masses and exploit them. For the sake of time, I won't go deep into the history of Mussolini's rise to power, but it is important to know that by 1925, he was the country's dictator and he enjoyed widespread support.

Fascism was exported to Italy's colonies, including Eritrea, which may explain the far-right, dictatorial bend the country has to this day (it is often termed the North Korea of Africa). It also spread through Europe, eventually reaching Germany where Adolf Hitler would establish a dictatorship of his own. When fascism is mentioned, Nazi Germany is usually what comes to mind first. This shouldn't be a shock, as the Third Reich is easily the most powerful fascistic State the world has ever seen. If we are lucky, fascists will NEVER acquire that much power ever again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_again

Hitler was directly inspired by Mussolini, though he also drew from philosophers like Nietzsche and scientists like Charles Darwin to advocate for social Darwinism and eugenics. Hitler was also strongly anti-semitic, a position which Mussolini would also adopt in Italy. With this said, hatred of Jewish people isn't the defining characteristic of fascism. In fact, as Israel is proving, it is possible to have a fascistic State that isn't anti-semitic at all. This raises an important question - what makes a fascist?

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How to Identify Fascism

Defining fascism is no easy task, and it is among the hardest political ideologies to adequately categorize. We know it is right-wing, authoritarian, and ultra-nationalistic, but other political movements have these traits as well. Saudi Arabia would be a good example of a country that is right-wing, authoritarian, and ultra-nationalistic but not quite fascist. After doing some research, I've identified the following as the key traits of fascism. If you think I've left anything out or gotten anything wrong, I'd like to hear it. It is important to note that while a nation can exhibit some of these traits and not be a fascist nation, but when they occur altogether, the word fascism starts becoming more appropriate to use.

1. Support of political violence

Unlike liberal movements that were gaining popularity in the 20th century, fascists do not believe that violence is inherently bad and it is viewed as a healthy part of political life. This viewpoint is in part inspired by ideas of social Darwinism which championed the concept of the "survival of the fittest". Hence, it was only right that the strong should subjugate the weak. Violence is also the means by which social hierarchies are reified. I'll touch on it more in the next point, but violence is also an integral part of fascist masculinity. Violence is used to eliminate opposition, undermine democracy, force people into compliance, and expand the borders of the nation.

2. Support of strict gender roles and social hierarchies

As I've stated, fascists believe in social hierarchies, and that some people are more deserving of life and power than others. In Nazi Germany, this viewpoint led to the mass involuntary euthanasia of huge swaths of the population that were disabled either mentally or physically. The most appalling example of this can be found with Germany's Aktion T4 program that claimed up to 300,000 lives.

There are also strict gender hierarchies in fascist nations. Fascism generally takes on a patriarchal shape with a "strong man" leading the nation. Women are expected to remain subservient and to serve a reproductive and domestic role in society. In contrast, men are expected to take to the frontlines of the army and participate in violence and war for the sake of the greatness of the nation. For this reason, you'd be hard-pressed to name a female fascist leader.

3. Belief in a palingenetic rebirth myth

This is perhaps the most important aspect of fascism. The fascist leader will convince the people that they were once a great nation but they have been subverted by outside forces i.e. Jews, communists, immigrants, liberals, etc. The populist fascist leader claims that they are the only ones who can restore the greatness of the nation and rescue the people from economic and political hardships, as well as from the threat of decadence and degeneracy. The palingenetic rebirth myth is reliant on a scapegoat to blame for the nation's decline and to give the people a common enemy to unite against.

4. Opposition to any initiatives or institutions that are racially, ethnically, or religiously diverse

The fascist leader will often create an "us" vs "them" schism. Those in the in-group are the true inhabitants of the nation while those in the out-group are invaders that dilute the blood of the land. One of the slogans used by Nazi Germany is "blood and soil" which illustrates how the regime tied race and nationality together.

Don't be fooled, however - a fascist nation does not need to be racist. The founder of fascism, Mussolini, stated the following:

Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five percent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.

However, he did also create an "us" vs "them" schism by scapegoating communists and Jewish people.

So there you have it - four pillars of fascism. If all four are present in a political system, you may be dealing with a fascist nation. I'd like to discuss a fifth possible pillar - isolationism. It appears that a lot of fascist nations aim for an autarkic economy and espouse ideas of isolationism and strong borders. The reason why I do not add this as a pillar of fascism is because scholars generally agree that there is no economic system that is essential to fascism. A sixth possible pillar concerns the use of lies and irrationality. This is seen with both Mussolini and Hitler but I hesitate to add it as an essential element of fascism because quite frankly all politicians lie - it's just a matter of degrees.

The nature of fascism is that it strives to gain power. Consequently, it manifests in varied ways depending on the context. This can make it hard to determine when a nation is fascistic. This has become increasingly true in the modern world where wannabee dictators are aware of the stink of fascism and therefore cloak their ideology using more palatable terms such as "nationalism" and preach about the restoration of "law and order". This isn't always the case, especially with the group we're going to look at today - the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging, also known as the AWB.

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Apartheid in South Africa

I'm sure the topic needs no introduction, but I'll quickly define apartheid. It was a system implemented in South Africa from 1948 to 1991, and it was led by the National Party, which was an Afrikaner ethnic nationalist party.

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Pictured above is the National Party flag and the apartheid South African flag. In short, apartheid is a system predicated on institutionalized racial segregation, and it favoured the White minority. Segregation was achieved through forced removals and the creation of townships for Blacks, which had the secondary effect of creating a cheap source of labour. The government also used pass laws that required black South African citizens to carry passes when travelling outside their homelands. This was enforced by Acts such as the Natives (Urban Areas) Act of 1923 and the Black (Natives) Laws Amendment Act of 1952 that deemed urban areas "white". If 'non-whites' were found travelling in urban areas without passes, they faced the possibility of arrest. As you can imagine, interracial marriage was also banned.

The "heyday" of apartheid occurred during the 1960s and 1970s, but the National Party soon began facing strong resistance from the ANC and condemnation from the international community. Consequently, in the 1980s, some of the petty laws of apartheid were repealed, including the law banning interracial s*x and marriage (the Race Relations Act) and the mixing of the races (Group Areas Act). The government also provided limited political rights to Indians and Coloureds, though it wouldn't be until 1994 that South Africa would have its first democratic elections which were won by the ANC, allowing Nelson Mandela to rule the nation.

So, was apartheid South Africa fascist? No. Importantly, the movement lacks a palingenetic rebirth myth. Nevertheless, there were fascist movements bubbling in the country, with the most popular easily being the AWB.

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The Birth of the AWB

As apartheid laws were slowly repealed, some liberal White South Africans saw this as progress. However, there were huge swaths of the White population that did not agree with the increasing liberal influences on the country's politics.

One individual who opposed the direction the country was going in was Eugene Terre'Blanche. We won't go too deep into his history (there will be a separate post dedicated to him), but all you need to know for now is that Eugene was born in 1941 and he expressed Christian Afrikaaner nationalist sentiments from a very young age. In 1973, he called a meeting with several men where he complained of the increasing liberal influence in the country under the leadership of Prime Minister B. J. Vorster. He also feared the increasing influence of communism, and as a response, he formed the AWB, with him as the leader.

The AWB is an extremist far-right party that strives to create an independent Afrikaaner state (Boerestaat) separate from the rest of the country. Is the AWB fascistic? Yes! The group is openly fascist, and is strongly influenced by Nazi Germany. Consequently, the group is anti-semitic, and it uses a flag featuring a "triskelion" which is a three-armed swastika.

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It also exhibits all four of my pillars of fascism:

1. Support of political violence

The group has used significant violence since its conception, and it remains committed to using violence to bring about the Boerstaat. It is responsible for many terroristic attacks during apartheid, especially in the 80s and 90s. Notable episodes of violence include:

  • The Battle of Ventersdorp in 1991 which saw the AWB go head to head with the South African Police Force, and resulted in three deaths

  • The Storming of the Kempton Park World Trade Centre in 1993 which involved 3000 members of the group storming the World Trade Center in Kempton Park

  • 1994 bombings which resulted in the death of 20 people

The violence did not stop after apartheid ended. In 1996, the group planted a bomb in a grocery store, killing four civilians. Eugene Terre'Blanche also served time in prison for beating a petrol station attendant until he had brain damage (more on that in the next post).

The AWB is violent and aggressive. You can see it in this Louis Theroux clip featuring the documentarian speaking with Eugene who gets annoyed with Louis and squeezes his hand.

2. Support of strict gender roles and social hierarchies

The AWB uses Christianity to justify its gender roles and social hierarchy. They are insistent that the Bible says that Blacks and Whites must live separately, and they wish to bring about a patriarchal, pastoral Boer society.

3. Belief in a palingenetic rebirth myth

This runs strong in the ideology of the AWB. Their fall from grace comes with the Second Boer War which brought about the end of the Boer republics of South Africa. The party promises to restore these republics and bring about the great Boer empire once more.

4. Opposition to any initiatives or institutions that are racially, ethnically, or religiously diverse

It goes without saying that the AWB strikes for a homogenous society. They do not want Blacks, Jews, or communists in their Boer republics. They scapegoat the ANC, immigrants, and Black people as their enemies.

Unfortunately, the AWB had a huge following and at its peak, it boasted a membership of close to half a million. It also caught the attention of the international world, including Nazi sympathisers. Consequently, the group is quite prominent in right-wing literature, especially alternate history fiction novels such as Gun of the South. I've read the book and I quite like it. This is my favorite quotes from the text:

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The AWB in Modern Day

Since South Africa became a democratic republic, the AWB has only shrunk in size, but its supporters remain passionate. One of the topics they rally around is the issue of farm killings, which they frame as a white genocide. They will often protest by shutting down highways and waving Old South African flags as well as the Nazi triskelion flag.

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The group is still concerned with creating a Boerstaat, and they have their eyes on the Transvaal and the Free State but they haven't had much success claiming land. In one video worth watching, a member of the AWB tries arguing his case on television, and he threatens the Black female, leading to an altercation between him and the male host who warns him not to touch him on his studio.

Perhaps the biggest blow the group has experienced occurred in 2010 when he was killed by two of his own Black farm workers! He was beaten to death with pangas (machetes) and pipes. The murderers claimed that Eugene was buckbreaking them, though no evidence of sodomy was found.

Today, the group has about 5000 members and it is a shell of its former self with no political teeth at all. So is there any reason to fear the AWB?

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325341889863985.webp


Does the AWB still pose a threat?

YES! The AWB is actively recruiting the youth and trying to grow its numbers. It is doing this through the use of social media to spread its message. Several scholars are warning about the rise of fascism in South Africa and it's terrifying me! I'm so scared of fascism, I feel I have to do everything in my power to stop it. Unfortunately, all I can do is longpost. If they win, the races will be separated, then I'll NEVER have a white gf.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/transnational-white-supremacist-militancy-thriving-south-africa

The Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (Afrikaner Resistance Movement), founded in 1973 by noted white supremacist Eugène Terre'Blanche, also remains active today. The group apparently boasts around 5,000 members, and in 2010, members of the group were arrested for plans to attack Black townships in the wake of the murder of Terre'Blanche—which some claimed was racially motivated. The plotters, based in Pretoria, had also threatened foreigners and players traveling to the country for the 2010 World Cup. And in 2002, a far-right group calling itself the "Warriors of the Boer Nation" claimed responsibility for a series of blasts targeting the township of Soweto, in which one woman was killed.

https://www.ru.ac.za/perspective/2012archives/theleftsfailuretoresolveglobalcrisisgivesfascismroom.html

Last week at the 24th Socialist International (SI) congress in Cape Town, a similar warning about the threat of fascism was issued. However, this referred to a global danger. And this week, as the local mining industry faced turmoil, National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) spokesman Lesiba Seshoka also raised the spectre of fascism.

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Conclusion

I hope you join me in my next post when I discuss the life and death of Eugene Terre'Blance. It is a long, sometimes funny, but always frightening story. Look, I'm just searching for a way to stop the chuds from winning. I will NOT live in a segregated nation, I will NOT have my vote taken away from me (even if I don't vote), and I will NOT live in a fascist country. Videos like this absolutely frighten me:

I don't know how Americans sleep at night when they have a proto-fascist about to take the wheel. FASCISM BAD!

!africans !nonchuds !effortposters !mayomoment

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My father and other lunatics near his farm has had the bright idea to start a hobby farming into :marseycow: :carpcowboy: :marseycowmad: :carpcow: :marseysphericalcow: cattle

For the past 4 months they've been building a dipping kraal, or a medicine application bead/holding, which is just basically a pre-built fence or passage where cattle/cows/goats/bucks or any other form of domesticated bovines are herded through, preferably one-by-one to apply veterinary care,

like spraying their fur with anti-lice or anti-parasite poison, or injecting them with vaccinations or whatever the particular situation requires.

This dipping passage system, can be technologically sophisticated

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325221913440347.webp

or locally rurally primitive - as has been done 100 years ago

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/farming-basics/how-to-livestock/a-career-in-veterinary-nursing/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732522191592527.webp

Large commercial farmers can even have hardcore systems to separate cattle into groups while applying medication, prior to selling for auctions or butcheries

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325221916590798.webp

THere's even companies which build custom, but pre-fabricated pens and dipping-passages which have proven to be very effective for commercial farmers

https://www.facebook.com/taltec.co.za/posts/tal-tec-se-sirkel-drukkraal-uitleg-is-n-kraal-om-jou-beeswerk-maklik-en-vinnig-t/4105574749474093/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325221919544623.webp


all looks very complicated, but what it boils down to is to aid in the driving on of domesticated animals, without hurting cattle or ranchers themselves, while also leaving easy access to the animals for medication care. There is no definitive surefire method or structure, they are as variable as there are farmers and stock.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732522192107314.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/173252219220363.webp

Some act as multi-purpose structures, where once vaccinated, cattle are thenafter driven onto ramps, up to transportation trucks

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which again can vary dramatically, from humble specialized trailers, capable of being pulled by any pick-up truck with sufficient power, to gargantuan commercial grade trucks capable of transporting a 100 bastards at once


Anyways, the nutjobs near my father's farm had started to construct a homemade dipping kraal/passage, by using manual labour and a generator bolted onto an shopping trolley's wheels! (this was from a month ago)

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The dipping enclosure were to have wooden beams with giant rubber strip lengths surrounding the enclosure, to protect the cattle from harming themselves when they bump into the wooden beams, a the soft rubber softens the blow like the softened corners of a wrestling ring.

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These giant rubber strips were pulled tight around the wooden beams with a specialized fence-wire pulling tool, which utilized leverage onto chains with a clamped with each segment

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732524781037252.webp

This "Draadtrekker" or "Wire-Puller" has this teethed mechanism, to consecutively "climb" onto a chain, to pull a wire clamped onto it's tail end, and uses leverage to strengthen the pull onto each consecutive chain link. It's operation is very hard to describe into words. But it basically "climbs" onto the chain, with the teeth hooks.

It's soft of like like a ratchet wrench type device but not really?

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325252871302922.webp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_(device)

The idea is to pull a wire or other material as taut as possible, to strengthen the wire's structure, usually for farm fences.

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Saturday and Yesterday, my father had discovered that the 6 beeste had severe eye infections, to the degree that they were borderline blind. Their eyes were swollen and inflamed, and the cause uncertain - as they are supposed to be the type of local Safrican breed hardened against this climate and its parasites and illnesses. Regardless the cattle were really rough looking

TTheir eyes so swollen that they could barely see more than a few meters ahead of themselves.

One cow which was so angsty and evasive, literally ran away from my father in panic as it could not recognize my father - mistaking him from some other predator or whatever, despite usually running at speed whenever my father appears in the veld towards him, because my parents regularly feed them lettuce and carrots to make them used to humanity

This brought alarms to everyone, and soon he had called me from across the farm with dogshit 3rd world cellphone signal - i only noticed a "missed-call" in my SMS, and realized my father's intention. I had to run in 33 degree heat :marseyburn: :marseyfireeyes: and gather the two Lesotho laborers currently building the unfinished kraal, because the 6th cow was being so evasive, that it would require a multi-man concerted effort, to corral this beest into the dipping passage, in order to closely inspect wtf was wrong with it.

:marseysweating: :marseysweating: :marseysweating: after lots of sweating we managed to not just gather the blind-beest, but also the other 5 beeste, into the unfinished, but luckily fully enclosed kraal, i had to run like hooligan and ram pipes into the exit of the dipping passage , to block off the exit, and ensure the 6 cattle corralled into the dipping passage, would not just exit like water from a funnel :marseydead: so tired.


Then once they were within the kraal, structure we could clearly see at point blank, just how fricked up their eyes were. All 6 had problems, 3 of them had tears running down the sides of their faces endlesslly - it appeared that they had great aggravated suffering.

To compound this horror and bad luck, my father had enlisted the services of a farm animal vet, but he had decline to doctor them for eye and other parasite related shit, because he had stated that it was useless to apply medicine before symptoms showed :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: well now 2 weeks later we were all staring at blind 6 cattle with dark black tear streaks in obvious suffering.

We were all tired from the corralling efforts in a humid crushing 33 degree heat (which is nothing i know compared to the 40 degree heat in actually hot places in the country), so we decided to start lunch while my father made a decision.

We made boiled eggs and noodles, and my mother shared the same for the 2 Lesotho men (many SA employers can be ruthless and let men work without break in the sun, nor ever give them food)

After lunch my father had decided, we cannot wait even a week for a vet to come again, and that likely if these cattle were not treated, they could form permanent cataract-like debilitating ailments, or just become blind. He still had eye-treating medicine stored in his shed. And OH BOY did i not yet realize what we were in for!!

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The next stage was to corral the 6 cattle from the outer kraal, into the dipping funnel passage, and to our woes, the structure was not yet finished, additionally the 6 cattle were spooky and uncooperative and we found it impossible to fricking separate them, thus we were only capable of herding all 6 into the funnel passage at once, so that they were squashed tightly.

This was not done for the sake of animal abuse, but because it was decided if we did not treat these animals here and now, blindness would follow - and we were without all the cowtools we needed, the passage was unfinished and we had not fricking vet with us.

Ironically, the fact that the cattle had squashed themselves so tightly, meant that they could not bump their heads in erratic spontaneous movements and hurt themselves.

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We were supposed to have a headclamp ordered, but it was still a city away and had not yet been delivered, but this was an emergency, and again we could not fricking wait

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Thus we had to also make to with the only pitiful rope we had - which the Lesotho men tied around the nearest wooden beam, and then the horns/mouth of the specific cattle we wanted to treat, in order to keep their heads still and unmoving - and once again this was not done for the sake of animal cruelty

Cattle/cows are unbelievably strong. You often see videos of city-slickers and people who've never encountered wild animals or even domesticated farm animals before and tourists dangerously approach large animals into their comfort-zone, only to get mauled/hooved and their body battered.

Cattle have necks with the thickness and strength of ten men's arms - i've seen before how careless ranchers or farmhands have their hands crushed :marseyscream: :marseyscream: :marseyeyelidpulling: and their bones splintered from just one spontaneous movement of a cow's head, pinning a man's hand next to a wooden bean, or alternatively bending backwards every fricking digit of a man's fingers :marseymonsterpenisshadow: :marseymonsterpenisshadow: :marseymonsterpenisshadow: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: because the usually docile and pleasant cow gets spooked and have no idea of their own strength compared to a human's, and unintentionally can cause tremendous bodily harm to its owners. Just one random jerk of an unaggressive cow's head can gore the arm of a reckless man. :unicorn: :marseylonghorn:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325226729013982.webp


The 6 cattle were stuffed and jampacked into the funnel dipping passage, and thus we placed two pipes at the entrace to the passage to block them in! i had to literally push the last cow in with all the force of my strength along with the two Lesotho men, while a 3rd pushed in pipes between the wooden beams to lock them inside!!!

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From here on out we had to apply two types of medicine (which i cant spell or pronounce): One was a bottle of teardrop type medicine which was applied by lifting up the lids of the target cattle, and squeezing it onto the area of irritation/inflammation. The 2nd was an injection via needle which, as per the instruction of the vet, had to be injected into the eyelids of the cow!!!! :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseyeyelidpulling: :marseyeyelidpulling: :marseyeyelidpulling: But a cow's eyelids are very thick and filled with blood-vessels, and much larger when compared to a human's

As you guys can imagine, no animal likes to have their fricking eyeballs messed with and manipulated, especially after they are hurting and highly irritated by whatever infected it, like a human's red-eye.

This was why we had been forced to stabilize the cattle's head, by tying it up, lest it hurt itself or us, in it's panic or pain.

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Of course i personally was too much of a b-word butt wimp to personally handle the medicine and eyeball needle shit, so i balked at that part :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: but my father is giga hardcore and wen to great lengths to be gentle and shit.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325238241284642.webp

finally after like 40 minutes, the poor cattle could dazedly and with stiff legs get the frick out of the cramped dipping funnel

we pulled out the pipes blocking the funnel exit, and they skedaddled out of there

what a nightmare


slice of life shit

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325222603203857.webp

Some mielie/maize bread baked by mother next to braai (open fire)

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giant unused ordinance - from WW1, WW2 and 1899 boer war.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732522253644428.webp

sister feeding cattle lettuce and carrots

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17325260516007652.webp

Khoisan maize/corn/wheat giant mortal and pestle stones - smooth stones used to grind any edible grain or mielies into food capable of being baked into starch or other food like pap


im not nearly as cool as that other dramatard which built his whole fricking porch, but hopefully some of you found this at least somewhat mildly amusing

:marseywave2:

!africans

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INTRO:

Greetings Dramatards :marseywave2:

Yesterday on my father's farm, while we were busy vaccinating cows, by injecting :marseymaidgeisha: medicine directly into their eyelids and eyeballs, I then had a moment to read an Afrikaans article about Elon Musk's incredible rise in stature, where he had managed to make powerful friends with Trump, and had managed to secure great power and influence by becoming the head of a newly created Department of Efficiency in USA - a newly created organization, which would endeavor during Trump's tenure to investigate Federal spending, and cut bloated or mismanaged funds by the American Nation State.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/13/trump-names-musk-and-ramaswamy-to-head-new-government-efficiency-department

Supposedly, this was because of Elon's cost-cutting measures which he had done, when he decimated Twatter's bloated workforce by something like 50% in the 1st week, and eventually by 80% overall by the end of the year he bought it. His appointment has been met with positivity by Magatards and the crowds, with the belief that he would endeavour to reduce the annual budget - and he had even made a campaign promise to slash the Colossal yank annual spending of 6 Trillion$, by 2 Trillion$ - video of which has been making rounds

When doubts had been raised by other rightoids of the feasibility of this grand feat, or the reliability of Elon, Magatards had just shouted them down :soyjakmaga: :soyjakmaga: :soyjakmaga:

I'm here to explain why I believe Elon is a horrifying appointment


AMERICAN RIGHTWINGERS MISS THE DANGER OF MUSK:

The Afrikaans article was from a local Economist short paper and they like my own, have their biases to Rightwing type views. While the majority of criticism against Elon has been my lefties, communists and welfare leeches, which poisons the conversation about this significant event. Commies despise Elon for his Libertarian standing, and the fact that Billionares even exist as a concept - so the loudest people whom had opposed this announcement on Twatter had been fricking commies afraid Elon would slash their Neetbux :marseyneet: :marseyanzu: :marseylain2: :marseysaya: :getafuckingjob: :getafuckingjob: :getafuckingjob: instead of any policy or ethics criticism - which further poisoned the well of this discussion.

Now pissing off leftoids :soymad: :soymad: :soymad: :soymad: :soymad: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: is always a GOOOOOD THING!

But many other rightwingers, like Patrick Boyle - who's a Libertarian Mick

have been criticizing Elon hard for his business acumen, his professional and public behaviour and his staggering corruption. And we'll get to that corruption.

The article I read went to such an extreme, as to calling Elon Musk's appointment, the equivalent of a Gupta appointment.

https://rdrama.net/post/162984/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-theme-park-racism

Basically the context is that during the infamously corrupt Safrican :marseyflagsouthafrica: president Jacob Zuma's 10 years in office, he had esentiallly sold the very grounds beneath the feet of south africans, to the criminal Indian Gupta family, by giving them nationscale nepotistic appointments to their companies via tenders - and allowing the Guptas to pilfer the national resources of the country - in what was termed State Capture.

Elon Musk has similar degrees of monstrous conflicts of interest.


FEASIBILITY OF MUSK'S CAMPAIGN PROMISES:

Now there are a great of inefficiency which Musk can tackle

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732442909288452.webp

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429095298145.webp

Chances are even that it's even feasible that Musk and Trump could cut the annual 7.5 Trillion Budget by as much as 1 Trillion per year, by cutting off all of the Governmental bloat - like the top heavy Educational boards of urban schools filled with parasites, or in the very least make the Pentagon to a national audit see all the various black holes in which yank Federal funding are disappearing into (an audit alone would make Musk's new department worth it alone)

The issue is not the feasibility or the degree of feasibility of Musk curbing Government spending, but that there are phenomenal, PHENOMINAL conflicts of interest!


ARTICLES EXPLORING DEVIOUS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST:

A New York article written 3 weeks ago goes into how much US Tax dollars have been paying to various tenders obtained by companies owned by Musk's corporate conglomerates.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/20/us/politics/elon-musk-federal-agencies-contracts.html

https://archive.ph/kUw8W

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429097278605.webp

The obvious answer would be SpaceX, Musk's space ship building organization, which has worked with, and in may ways supplanted NASA as the premier Space Rocket launching hub in the Western World - due to the fact that SpaceX has been able to organize itself in such a way as to superiorly run entity, and drive space related projects cheaper and with greater skill than the floundering modern NASA.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429106732144.webp

This world-famous and generally positively viewed symbiotic relationship, by both sides of the aisle in burgerland, between NASA and SpaceX, has been very VERY lucrative for Musk. However NASA is just one fraction of the government tenders SpaceX receives, since the Burgerland Department of Defense has come to rely on SpaceX the company, to launch all of its new military-related satellites!! :marseysputnik: :marseysputnik: :marseysputnik: :marseysaturnus: :marseysaturnus: :marseysaturnus:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732442909991442.webp

The non-space related shit in honestly not that many, but his influence on other shit, like the department of transportation is wild.

But much much more concerning that all of these tenders for !Burgers, is that over the past 10 years, Mush has been fricking embroiled in no less than TWENTY :2: :0: investigations from USA government oversight and Safety-Inspection organizations!!!!! :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429101546905.webp

And these aren't just junk :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger: no-nothing investigations, they have large impact on the wider industries they influence in which Musk's various conglomerate companies are a part of.

Example:

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His entanglements with federal regulators are also numerous and adversarial. His companies have been targeted in at least 20 recent investigations or reviews, including over the safety of his Tesla cars and the environmental damage caused by his rockets.

But he has thrown his fortune and power behind former President Donald J. Trump and, in return, Mr. Trump has vowed to make Mr. Musk head of a new "government efficiency commission" with the power to recommend wide-ranging cuts at federal agencies and changes to federal rules.

That would essentially give the world's richest man and a major government contractor the power to regulate the regulators who hold sway over his companies, amounting to a potentially enormous conflict of interest.

........multipronged business arrangements with the federal government, as well as the violations, fines, consent decrees and other inquiries federal agencies have ordered against his companies. Together, they show a deep web of relationships: Instead of entering this new role as a neutral observer, Mr. Musk would be passing judgment on his own customers and regulators.

Already, Mr. Musk has discussed how he would use the new position to help his own companies. :marseymerchant: :marseymerchantsoy: :carpmerchant: :marseyjewofthesubcontinent: :marseymerchantfoid:

He has questioned a rule that required SpaceX to obtain a permit for discharging large amounts of potentially polluted water :waterjet: :waterjet: :waterjet: from its launchpad in Texas. He also said that limiting this kind of oversight could help SpaceX reach Mars sooner — "so long as it is not smothered by bureaucracy," he wrote on X, his social-media platform. "The Department of Government Efficiency is the only path to extending life beyond Earth."

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........But the Federal Aviation Administration held up this most recent test launch for weeks, in part because of questions about harm SpaceX has caused to wildlife near its Texas launch site, a delay that infuriated Mr. Musk.

Last month, the F.A.A. started the process to fine SpaceX $633,009 for disregarding license requirements related to two of its Florida launches last year that may have compromised safety, the agency said.

This was a shift for the F.A.A., which in past instances had not imposed fines when SpaceX ignored the agency's direct orders. Marc Nichols, the F.A.A.'s chief counsel, said in a statement last month that "failure of a company to comply with the safety requirements will result in consequences."

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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened five investigations of Tesla, including for complaints of unexpected braking, loss of steering control and crashes while cars were in "self-driving" mode. :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseysteer: :marseymariokart: :marseymariokart: :marseymariokart: :marseymariokart:

Tesla has tried to block at least two rulings from the National Labor Relations Board, including one punishing Mr. Musk for tweeting that factory workers would lose stock options if they joined a union.

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Mr. Musk in recent years has particularly attacked the Securities and Exchange Commission, which in 2018 charged him with securities fraud for a series of false and misleading tweets related to taking Tesla private. Mr. Musk had posted on Twitter that he had planned to take the company private at $420 a share, and that he had "funding secured" for a transaction. As part of a later settlement with the S.E.C., he stepped down as Tesla's chairman and Tesla paid a $20 million fine.

In a 2022 TED Talk, Mr. Musk lambasted regulators, calling them "bastards." :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :purerage: :purerage: :purerage: :purerage: :purerage: :purerage: :purerage:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429104184713.webp

=====(end NYT Quote)

As you guys can see our turbo neurodivergent has been every bit the morally bankrupt billionare as you would expect.


https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-list-government-subsidies-tesla-billions-spacex-solarcity-2021-12

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-11-14/elon-musk-conflicts-of-interest

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429105365758.webp

=====(from LA times article)

Tesla:

Trump's policies could reduce the sales of electric vehicles, but with Musk's influence, his administration's policies could boost Tesla — though not with federal funding.

For example, Trump, who tempered criticism of electric vehicles after Musk backed him, might end a $7,500 tax credit for electric vehicles. That would hurt Tesla's unprofitable rivals that rely more on the tax credits to lure customers.

This year, Tesla received at least $2.8 million from the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation through a federally funded program to deploy EV charging stations.

From 2022 to 2024, Tesla and its subsidiaries were awarded at least $631,800 in federal contracts mainly to provide vehicles for the U.S. embassies in Singapore, Iceland and Thailand, the data showed.

The Boring Co.:

Fed up with Los Angeles traffic, Elon Musk launched The Boring Co. with two tweets in 2016, promising "to build a tunnel boring machine and just start digging."

However, at Trump's urging, congressional representatives could earmark local transportation projects to the benefit of Boring Co.

=====(end LA Times quote)


SUPER :marseysuperman:PACS:

Point is his new political influence would give him the capacity to disrupt investigations into his companies, by Health-and-Safety departments and regulators, or worse and most likely enable him to inject bias into the national procurement procedures, to net tenders for only his conglomerate of companies.

Now in the past, staggering corruption has existed. Yanks have appointed business tycoons into ministerial levels of power, or bought the Departments of regulators through influential lobbying by corrupt industry political interests, often through obscuring disguise called SUPERPACS

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/super-pacs/2024

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429108325167.webp

Like fossil-fuel industries, like coal-mining or offshore-oil-drilling conglomerates to bribe politicians in congress, senate or Presidential admin, to cut regulations in their favor. (Must has also done this for Trump BTW :marseyfacepalm: )

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-america-pac-trump-d248547966bf9c6daf6f5d332bc4be66

But often these corrupt businessmen would be separated by a degree of control, by the corrupt politicians they aimed to control or influence - Musk would have not even ONE degree of such separation, and likely no fricking oversight. :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun:


MUSK'S VARIOUS BUSNINESS INTEREST'S SOAR IN VALUE ON STOCK MARKET:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/11/22/elon-musks-net-worth-hits-record-high-thanks-to-57-billion-post-election-windfall/

The corruption is SO flagrant that investors on the stock market have gone crazy in investing on in his various businesses, out of the sheer EXPECTATION that Musk will now use his considerable influence and political position to favor his corporate conglomerates!!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732442911001775.webp

https://fortune.com/2024/11/11/elon-musk-donald-trump-election-tesla-auto-industry-carmakers-market-value/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429111185799.webp


MUSK IS A GEOPOLITICAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST:

Other geopolitical commentators had also mentioned that Musk is by sheer virtue of his Chinese and Russian connections, an astronomical military risk.

https://apnews.com/article/spacex-ukraine-starlink-russia-air-force-fde93d9a69d7dbd1326022ecfdbc53c2

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429114138567.webp

Our boi had on various occasions cut off internet access for Ukraine forces, as they had utilized Starlink in the underdeveloped internet-infrastructure of Hohol-land, which had further degraded during the war, through constant missile barrages on Ukrainian civilian areas. Starlink internet was invaluable to guide GPS areal and naval missiles, as well as connect commercial drones to drop grenades unto enemy trenches :marseydrone: :marseydrone: :marseydrone: :marseydrone: :marseydrone:

====(from AP article)

SpaceX founder Elon Musk's refusal to allow Ukraine to use Starlink internet services to launch a surprise attack on Russian forces in Crimea last September has raised questions as to whether the U.S. military needs to be more explicit in future contracts that services or products it purchases could be used in war, Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said Monday.

Excerpts of a new biography of Musk published by The Washington Post last week revealed that the Ukrainians in September 2022 had asked for the Starlink support to attack Russian naval vessels based at the Crimean port of Sevastopol. Musk had refused due to concerns that Russia would launch a nuclear attack in response.

However, in the months since, the U.S. military has funded and officially contracted with Starlink for continued support. The Pentagon has not disclosed the terms or cost of that contract, citing operational security.

But the Pentagon is reliant on SpaceX for far more than the Ukraine response, and the uncertainty that Musk or any other commercial vendor could refuse to provide services in a future conflict has led space systems military planners to reconsider what needs to be explicitly laid out in future agreements

=====(end AP quote)

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/world/europe/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429116366765.webp

Even if Musk's pro-Putler tendencies weren't such a dangerous hot-point in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, the sheer fact that a USA-based private-enterprise would balk in the support of USA allies, out of fear of commercial retaliation of USA enemies, laid a lot of concern for Burgerland military leaders.

Then there is China, which in my opinion, and many geopolitical analysts, is a substantially LARGER threat, in terms of making Musk a cabinet weakness!!

Musk has substantial parts of his collective wealth tied to Chinese Factories:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3287323/elon-musks-china-ties-profound-threat-us-national-security-senator

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732442911733775.webp

====(FROM scmp)

Elon Musk's involvement in the incoming Donald Trump administration is drawing scrutiny over possible conflicts of interests, with a senator warning that the Tesla and SpaceX CEO's business ties with China could jeopardise US national security. :marseyblart:

Tesla manufactures half of its vehicles in China, which also accounts for one-third of its sales, while the US Defence Department and other government agencies are increasingly reliant on SpaceX.

Musk's close business ties with China and some of its most senior officials, including Premier Li Qiang, have prompted reports that he could be considered by Beijing as a backchannel to Trump, especially in the early days of the transition period.

"It's a very, very difficult position for Mr Musk to be in," said Fish, adding that Beijing "loves to use corporate leverage" over US companies and individuals to advance its national security interests.

"Frankly, I don't know how Mr Musk can balance the interests he has with the US government, with Tesla and with SpaceX at the same time. It's very, very challenging," he said.

====(end scmp article)

Meaning China could literally threaten Musk with actual bankruptcy (for Tesla), if they try to put the squeeze on him to get him to do something for them, or to threaten Musk directly, if they want to hurt USA directly - like saying if USA provides some stuff for Taiwan, like Starlink antennas - they would just go straight to turbo cuck Musk!

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/10/why-does-elon-musk-still-have-a-security-clearance/680434/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324429118602192.webp


:marseywave2:

Anyways that's all i have to talk about. Chances are that cutting the bloated yank Budget is entirely feasible - but I personally believe Musk is at all the appropriate candidate for such an astronomically difficult undertaking, despite the vast popularity he enjoys from Libertarians, rightoids and Magatards

Must is such an extremely bad fit for his position, that I think many americans have genuinely missed his obvious and extreme conflicts of interest, and how the cultural-wars and identity politics of Kamala :marseykamakama: and shitlibs have obfuscated such possible future :marseyivorytower: :marseyivorytower: :marseyivorytower: Gupta tiers of corruption!!!

Like i hate commies as well, and i enjoy Musk dunking :marseydab: on filthy shitlibs, but that sure as shit doesn't garantee he'll be a force for good for Burgerland

!effortposters !africans

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  • DickButtKiss : Poop doesn't come from the cow's udders dipshit

					
					

Some choice quotes from the top food scientists of reddit

:#marseysneed:

/u/Brujo-Bailando writes

>We drank it growing up and didn't get sick....Flys were a problem in warmer weather and you would have to pick them out of the milk...Sometimes it had cow poo on it.

Make Americans drink poop milk again!

/u/ahifun writes

>Been drinking it for years, I still drink it when it is a bit old and goes a bit sour after 1-2 weeks. There is no health risk, it is all cap to protect the interests of large dairy producers...it reduces the enzymes and good bacteria, it reduces nutrients and makes it taste worse...Raw milk goes sour faster but even if it goes sour there is very low health risk. If a milk is cooked/heated and then it goes sour, that is where you get the toxic bacteria.

Milk souring is a separate process from spoiling, as it occurs when lactose splits into different acids. But with that falsehood out of the way, I'm sure this genius knows a lot about microbiology. He could definitely name the good/bad bacterias he's talking about straight from memory, doubly so for his nutrients and enzymes.

/u/KT0QNE jokerposts his milkifesto

>A commercial food producer gives listeria or e-coli and recalls multiple product lines and nobody bats an eye. But some small farmer who has everything to lose tries to sell raw milk and everyone loses their mind.

:marseysociety:

People have been drinking raw milk for thousands of years.

People have been eating fermented milk products for thousands a year, leading some, not all, to develop a gene that prolongs their infantile ability to break down lactose based on the trace amounts found in processed milk. Dairy producing countries pre-pasturation did not have raw milk drinking cultural traditions outside of farmland, as refridgeration to slow down the growth of bacteria of raw milk didn't exactly exist.

/u/teatsqueezwe

>Raw milk actually has good and useful bacteria as well as vitamins and nutrients that get destroyed in the Pasteurizing process.

Such as? What are they? How much is lost?

A true blue fentposter /u/Cliphdiver adds:

>Ive been drinking raw milk since 1972, you whippersnappers. And Ive lived on a farm all my life. The raw milk scare began when factories started operating near farms. Google it. When the Govt got involved, they decided to kill everything in milk, no more problems. Now your drinking white water for $4 a gallon. (With some vitamins thrown in) You dont need any fancy equipment. Just a healthy cow and a bucket. BEWARE: make darn sure you double filter it (straining) to catch anything that may have fallen in the bucket during milk process. ENJOY and f"@K the FDA!

Is it safe or does it need to be strained? I hope they have a strainer from the future that can filter microbes smaller than milk's existing fats.

/u/Vinlands

>There used to be underground markets selling raw milk because it was so sought after. Imagine actual swat teams showing up to raid the shops to "protect" us. I'm not on either side of whether its safe or not; I just don't understand why the government would interfere and say raw milk is illegal.

Past ignorance does not somehow make the repeating the same stupidity less ignorant. The police comes because raw milk farmers are a threat to society, and honestly they should be shot where they stand so we don't have to hear them whining that they can't profit off selling people dangerous bullshit. Libertarians can't comprehend this because they're stupid enough to be libertarians in the first place.

/u/huntsvillekan posts the following legitament historical account detailing why you can't trust dairy farmers not to kill people, ergo why they must be regulated by force under capitalism: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/surprisingly-intolerant-history-milk-180969056/

Some highlights: 8000 yearly deaths in NYC from unregulated milk farmers, "The Greeks castigated barbarians for their gluttonous desire for dairy...in Rome, milk was widely regarded as low-status food because it was something only farmers drank," "

It would take both technological innovation and a change in social mores to popularize animal milk...milk was one of the first foods to be truly affected by industrialization"

So is mass milk drinking thousands of years old and ubiquitous, or a product of the industrial revolution. Anyway...

/u/chobbs2006 comes in explaining how raw milk is their latest schizo-cure to the new in-vogue hypochondriac illness: GERD! :marseyfart:

>I've been drinking Jersey A2 raw milk for about 10 months, in addition to my plant-free diet. I add in 2 to 3 oz of heavy whipping cream into 8 to 10 oz of raw milk. It's been amazing so far! I feel like it's healing my gut. I used to have really bad gerd, what's the diet took mostly care of, But now I am able to have a little bit of fruit or honey if I wish and not get heartburn anymore. What makes it unsafe are too primary things, how it is harvested, ie the hygiene and sanitation of the farm, and the cold chain. But I'm also about to make some raw kefir, can't wait

It's like these fad-diet chasers come out of a factory somewhere

Most of the remaining commenters of note just have anecdotes about living on a farm, drinking raw milk, and using a fricking cheesecloth on their already contaminated milk to get the shit-chunks out.

Happy drinking! :#marseychocolatemilk:

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