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Weekly Mass Discussion #9.5

Today is All Saints Day, a Holy Day of Obligation. !catholics, I hope you went to Mass.

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First Reading

I, John, saw another angel come up from the East,

holding the seal of the living God.

He cried out in a loud voice to the four angels

who were given power to damage the land and the sea,

"Do not damage the land or the sea or the trees

until we put the seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God."

I heard the number of those who had been marked with the seal,

one hundred and forty-four thousand marked

from every tribe of the children of Israel.

After this I had a vision of a great multitude,

which no one could count,

from every nation, race, people, and tongue.

They stood before the throne and before the Lamb,

wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands.

They cried out in a loud voice:

"Salvation comes from our God, who is seated on the throne,

and from the Lamb."

All the angels stood around the throne

and around the elders and the four living creatures.

They prostrated themselves before the throne,

worshiped God, and exclaimed:

"Amen. Blessing and glory, wisdom and thanksgiving,

honor, power, and might

be to our God forever and ever. Amen."

Then one of the elders spoke up and said to me,

"Who are these wearing white robes, and where did they come from?"

I said to him, "My lord, you are the one who knows."

He said to me,

"These are the ones who have survived the time of great distress;

they have washed their robes

and made them white in the Blood of the Lamb."

-Revelations 7:2-4, 9-14

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Second Reading

Beloved:

See what love the Father has bestowed on us

that we may be called the children of God.

Yet so we are.

The reason the world does not know us

is that it did not know him.

Beloved, we are God's children now;

what we shall be has not yet been revealed.

We do know that when it is revealed we shall be like him,

for we shall see him as he is.

Everyone who has this hope based on him makes himself pure,

as he is pure.

1 John 3:1-3

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Gospel

When Jesus saw the crowds, he went up the mountain,

and after he had sat down, his disciples came to him.

He began to teach them, saying:

"Blessed are the poor in spirit,

for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,

for they will be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,

for they will inherit the land.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,

for they will be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,

for they will be shown mercy.

Blessed are the clean of heart,

for they will see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,

for they will be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,

for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you

and utter every kind of evil against you falsely because of me.

Rejoice and be glad,

for your reward will be great in heaven."

-Matthew 5:1-12a

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I like the reading from Revelations because it implies that an entire 144,000 Jews will be Christians by the time the apocalypse comes :marseyfluffy:

Also my priest said in his homily today that the people in Purgatory are the second happiest in existence, as they know they will be going to Heaven. It's an interesting point.

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Revelation 7:2-4

I saw another angel ascend from the sunrise, having the seal of the living God. He cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to harm the earth and the sea, saying, "Don't harm the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, until we have sealed the bondservants of our God on their foreheads!" I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel:

1 John 3:1-3

Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him. Beloved, now we are children of God, and it is not yet revealed what we will be. But we know that, when he is revealed, we will be like him; for we will see him just as he is. Everyone who has this hope set on him purifies himself, even as he is pure.

Matthew 5:1-12

Seeing the multitudes, he went up onto the mountain. When he had sat down, his disciples came to him. He opened his mouth and taught them, saying, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, For theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, For they shall be comforted. Blessed are the gentle, For they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, For they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called children of God. Blessed are those who have been persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. "Blessed are you when people reproach you, persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven. For that is how they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

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Aevann what translation this b-word uses

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It's neither King James nor American Standard, although it looks more like King James.

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It's World English Bible. Could set it to either of those though

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I think New American Bible or New American Standard Bible are the latest Catholic translations. King James is the Protestant translation, although I'm not sure if there is a more recent iteration of it.

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I have the ASV, KJV, WEB, BBE (Bible in Basic English) and YLT (Young's Literal Translation) available, purely because they're copyright free and I found a git repo with them in the exact format I needed. Not the apocrypha though, unfortunately.

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ASV is the classic Catholic choice, but apparently WEB is a more recent translation with modern English. ASV would be the "safer" choice for Catholics, I guess. YLT is the most literal translation of those. KJV is, as mentioned before, the preferred Protestant choice. Personally, I don't really care. I find genuine Catholic-Protestant bickering to be pedantic, for the most part.

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neighbor idk, ask the fricking person who made the fricking bot

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!catholics !christians !codecels :marseysmokealarmbeep: ACTUNG! :marseysmokealarmbeep: New awesome bot dropped!

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If anyone wants to donate enough DC I'll figure out how to get it to handle the weird Catholic parts of the Bible too. I think I need 30dc more before I can bring back /h/dankchristianmemes

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beauteous I shall hence try:

Ecclesiasticus 22:3

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or perhaps Ben Sira 22:3 or The wisdom of ben sira 22:3

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Ecclesiastes 22:3

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