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Random Drug dive: 25I-NBOMe :marseywave:

So it turns out that everyone already knew what quaaludes were but me because of Wolf of Wall Street o(> < )o so this time I picked one with a whole bunch of analogues so I can say that it's technically obscure cause maybe you just did 25C-NBOMe instead. :soyjakanimeglasses:

25I-NBOMe is a hallucinogen first synthesized in 2003 by some German guy at a university in Berlin as a part of his PhD dissertation. Since then there has been a legion of analogues all in the same family that were created during the 2000s and have been increasing in popularity since.

The drug has various street names, most commonly "N-bomb" which is kind of funny. :marseyracist: Unfortunately however most people just call it LSD when they sell it to you (it's not LSD).

It's passed off as LSD because the effects are comparable and it's easy to because both commonly come on blotters and are best taken in micrograms (μg) under the tongue. While there are distinctions between the two effect-wise it can be difficult to discern because pretty much all reporting on this drug comes from individual experiences. It can be hard to pull real truth of out of subjective anecdotes. Especially from dudes that are tripping. :marseyonacid: Also side note: never snort Nbome.

One thing that you can find in a host of trip reports is that Nbome is much less introspective than LSD. There's no ego death or 'maybe I have childhood trauma' realizations while tripping on Nbome (although some people still report these happening). Also, the visuals are much stronger than LSD. Many people report a kind of 'disco ball' effect or a fragmentation of light in the visuals. For some people this is cool, for others it's deeply uncomfortable and in the worst cases it's terrifying. :marseyveryworried: Visual 'fish-eyeing' has also been reported where objects seems closer depending on how you're looking at them. :marseyflushzoom: Another thing that can be pulled out of Nbome reports is that it has a tendency to go real bad real fast. Bad trips seem more common, this might be a result of the physical effects that come with the drug. :marseybeanbigmad:

Luckily for us Nbome has a host of physical effects that LSD doesn't that make it a little easier to differentiate the two. Unluckily, these physical effects are all harmful. Nbome has been found to be neurotoxic and cardiotoxic. Numerous confirmed overdoes have been recorded since the drug's introduction into society. It can cause seizures, hyperthermia, hypertension, vasconstriction, kidney damage, and more! Basically any effect that you would get from toxidrome syndrome you can get by taking too much Nbome. :marseydead: Most of these problems only arise with higher doses, doses that would otherwise probably be safe if you were taking LSD, which you might have thought you were doing when you took it.

With respect to dosing a beginner dose is around 200 μg. Maximum recommended dose seems to hover at around 1500 μg but the risk of adverse effects and overdose will rise with an increased dose (obviously) so it's best to start small and work your way up.

That all being said, Nbome also comes with the usual of LSD, euphoria, pupil enlargement, vibes, ect. And on top of the added overdose concerns all of the usual precautions about psychedelics apply.

Despite the dangers some people swear by Nbome. Claiming that it's a better high than LSD or shrooms. :marseyshroom: Regardless of what you think, if you get your hands on this stuff don't be a moron with it. I assume overdosing while you're tripping is one of the more horrible ways to die.

Deaths related to Nbome were a godsend for mass media and your uncle who's a pastor on facebook because it allowed them to report these deaths as being caused by LSD. Now LSD does have some toxicity, but it's not even close to Nbome's toxicity. As far as I know there are no confirmed deaths from LSD alone, although it has been a complicating factor in a few. But that didn't stop anyone from misreporting the deaths as being caused solely by LSD. :marseyreporterfox: While most of the media has come around and knows the distinction nowadays, your uncle on facebook probably still doesn't.

So what if you just wanna drop some fricking acid like a normal person and you don't want your kidneys to fail? Well there are test kits around that test for Nbome, if you're planning on tripping sometime soon I'd recommend getting one. If you don't wanna then the final line of defense is a taste test. Nbome is incredibly bitter compared to LSD, I don't know how well this would actually work but I figure you could put a corner of a tab in your mouth and spit if it's bitter. :marseyspit:

The drug isn't hard to synthesize and you can find out how to do it online if you really wanna. It's apparently pretty easy to make which is likely why it's become such a problem since it was first synthesized. If you do take it then take a moderate dose and have someone sober to watch you :marseycheerup: and if you have a bad trip don't sell the rest of it to some poor kid who doesn't know better. :marseydisagree:

Here's what a blotter of 25C-Nbome looks like (not LSD btw) I assume that 25I looks pretty much the same:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16848890087725933.webp

Further reading:

Article about it from 2013

Ye old Erowid vault

A particular bad trip that made me sad

>I asked my friends to just hold my hand. That's all I wanted. I thought that in a world of death and chaos, that requesting light affection and then receiving it would confirm that I'm still alive, that what is happening to me is only temporary and not reality, so I cannot express the feelings of hurt when my friends wouldn't even hold my hand. :marseysulk:

Until next time tweakers :marseywave:

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I always get 25C and 25I mixed up but which is the one that doesnt kill you if you overdose? Because I accidentally did a whole coke sized line of that once when it first came out (I was r-slurred, still am but I used to be too). So like maybe 10x or 25x or 100x a dose or whatever (edit: my math is shit, pretty sure it was like 1000x a dose lol). Then this other, bigger r-slur heard about how that was not particularly fun for me so he decided I was just being a kitty (fair tbh) and did the entire rest of the bag, which had multiple grams left. He had a psychotic break and spent the whole night crying naked about the devil or some shit on a random lawn somewhere. Karma.

Edit, i had bought a pooping frick ton of it and originally planned to do a liquid suspension with it but through a series of massive frick ups it ended up in an unlabeled bag beside where the mdma was stored. El oh el.

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:marseyinvestigate: either i know you irl (like we literally went to high school together and hung out all the time) or this exact story (including the mixup with the mdma bag) has happened multiple times.

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:iti#samystery:

I want2believe

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drug users do be r-slurs so i’m inclined to believe the latter. but did this happen while you were living at a house on iirc 13th ave and does the slang term “dougs” mean anything to you

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I regret to inform you that neither of those things have any meaning to me whatsoever. Tell your friend hes an r-slur for me though, that is to this day my biggest drug related safety frick up and I have had a ton of those.

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i will, drug frickups serve a vital purpose in inspiring accomplices like myself to get sober and find god, so thank you for your service

:#marseyawardretard:

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Also, trip report of taking 5 zillion times a dose:

1. At one point I tried to go outside but I could see every single blade of grass in like microscopic 5 dimensional detail and it broke my brain so I went inside

2. Upon getting inside I decided this shit was way too intense so I went to lie down, but on closing my eyes I realized that was even worse, so I opened them again, then I realized I would have to deal with this for a number of hours and the bad trip started

3 at some point I ran away from my friends while screaming, disappeared for approximately 4 hours, have no memory of what happened but I showed up again covered in leaves and ranting about shit that made no sense so Im pretty sure I spent some or all of that time babbling like an r-slur in the dirt

4 contrary to the official list of effects, I did have some cool ego death type effects later in the trip that I never experienced on any of my other trips with it. Tl;dr we're all just like a billion neurons, maaannn

5 would rate it maybe 3/10 not great overall tbh

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You had a chance to not be completely worthless, but it looks like you threw it away. At least you're consistent.

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Not very PLUR of you, longpost

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