[Boring] [ ] [Forum Drama] Obscure Kratom forum has a slapfight about ghosts or vaccines or something

In the offtopic section on a forum about Kratom (an opioid analgesic plant) that spun off from a similar subreddit after they got banned for 'sourcing', on a saturday in 2019, this utter vomit was posted:

I am trying to figure out what's going on with my daughter in law,,and now son,,she says she's always had this gift of sorts,,in the past year,,she tells me these frightening things,,how times it feels like something is holding her down on the bed,,having scratches, red marks,don't bleed, just show up,,thinks she has demonic attachments,,,now for the past couple of months, my son sometimes goes to bed,,feels like someone sat on the bed,,turns around, no one there,,it doesn't scare him,,just annoying,,and latest is about twice a month,he comes home,,and senses something, when he looks in the mirror, he's got 2 red lines,like a papercut on his forehead,,it's freaking him out,said he never experienced this type of thing till his wife started to experience things,,said whatever follows her is trying to attach to him,,I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK!

They proceed to talk about 'smudging' the ghost

Smudging really works. Every place we move, we always smudge before we move in. It gets rid of bad entities AS WELL AS leftover bad energy, and that could be all this is.

smudging has become very popular, ,I have my crystals, ,but for some reason I'm very attracted to early early, native american practices and artifacts,dreamcatchers everywhere, arrowheads, arrow points,scrapers,,ax heads,so many found near creeks, ,,I have a book about medical healing hebs,practicing, the rituals,,,I try to incorporate both crystals, for the physical self,and energy surrounding us,along with the smudging and rituals to cleanse leftover remnants of past energys, on another note,,my grandson, who is neurodivergent, ,is very calmed down by playing native american flute meditational utube music,,I think it could help calm down activity in the rest of the house,certainly won't hurt,,?

But of course, the skeptics show up

Show me some scientific evidence that proves that spirits or ghosts exist and I'll listen. Or evidence that waving sage smoke around with a feather actually does anything.Your reasoning of "well it doesn't hurt anything" is a version of Pascal's wager.

You're looking for advice? See a primary physician and get those kids referred to a psychiatrist/psychologist. Maybe the mother and grandmother too, if they are planting and reinforcing delusional thoughts into their heads.

The rebuttal:

Science and doctors can't fix this, ,,since you have no knowledge of these things,anything you say in future is invalid, ,your chakras are blocked up, you lack insight

Schizo weighs in :

From all the stuff i had extra time to study, i am convinced we are not alone in universe. Even the moon. When we tried to shit on moon with our trash being send up there, dont matter any country, Russa, USA, China, everyone was warned. Look hard enough, you will see some pics floating on the back side of the moon having bases. Who gets to clean up all the shit we sent up there and goes out of order? not earth humans and they simply got sick of wiping shit (who ever they are). Thats why you still hear no more race to the moon or any type of that thing. I am sure some beings on moon work with some earth people and have even a base for earth people with C02. Now thats just assumption, so go figure. Some say its Reptilians others says its tall whites, maybe there is more then one race on it.

Sperg spergs about some shit idk:

Well this thread has gone from worse to shit. Please continue. Science is a faith! Science hates transgenders! Do transgrdender spirit exist, and do they transition before or after spiriting away? Miyazaki is a homophobe? That's what I read! Is the word homophone homophobic? Standley Kubrick directed 9/11!!

Vaccines (remember this was pre-covid vaccine), autism, and train drama:

Anti vax? Evil? If your child were a victim, you would do your research, :doctor confirmed it, fortunately the % is small,,but research has proved it MMR VACCINE BTW, transphobia is a totally different subject than the movement to Not assigning gender to a newborn, ,You have a baby,if it's a boy do you dress him as a a boy or in dresses too,,I doubt it,,,that's the evil movement

More evidence that anti-vaxers are evil is their disdain for neurodivergent people. They would rather their child get fricking polio or die than have autism. It’s quite disgusting really.

Finally:

You’re a professional victim and you’re going to be one until you die. I didn’t read all that mess, but I skimmed enough to see it’s just a bunch more ignorant busy-body bile and vitriol tossed my way - like usual.

And I’ve seen your not-so-subtle accusations of me being a narcissist littered all over the forum. All I can say is that if you weren’t a victim, you wouldn’t have a personality trait at all. I’m real sick of you. I think you’re a terrible, ignorant, bigoted, vindictive person. And I’ve had about enough of your shit talk and personal attacks. Go kick rocks.

Your passionate and illiterate rambling personal attack against me doesn’t contain a single shred of evidence you know what you are talking about.