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This is a way more valid criticism of it than the kraut bullshit. Germany's problem was that as Clemenceau observed you don't negotiate with the Hun. They don't understand cooperation. You can only dictate to him with your boot on his neck. The Germans got extremely favorable terms and still cheated on them.
What happened to China at Versailles was totally different. They were on our side and made a significant contribution sending laborers over to work in France. Then at the end of the war they get totally betrayed and fricked over. This was something the Republicans ran on in the next election as Americans were so disgusted at how Wilson's zombie corpse had sold out the Chinese.
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I never knew that. It seems like the Republicans in the past has a much better idea of using East Asia to rag on their opponents. They also blamed the Dems for "losing China" back in 1949.
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Yeah these things flip back and forth. My (limited) understanding is in 1919 the Republicans got that we were going to war with Japan over China someday. This had been building up a long time with the "Open Door" policy where we politely asked the eurotrash to stop invading the country.
Ultimately everything failed because chingchongs are as r-slurred as whites. They saw that our eyes are kind of round so the tard demographic decided that we were the bad guys. You dumb motherlovers after all these lives we gave you
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In my middle school days, May Fourth Movement was mostly branded as a patriotic movement against foreign incursion, but the anti-West sentiment was played down. My guess is partly due to Taiwan's naturally aligned to the West to deter the CCP, and the West did pressure Japan in returning some land to China after WW1. I didn't even know about how the CCP had a different interpretation on May Fourth until I started reading stuff coming out of the Mainland.
Also our curriculum was more focus on the cultural developments such as ditching Classical Chinese and stories of famous writers that made modern Mandarin the way it is.
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It is pure nazi propaganda that the ToV was the cause of germans poor state........ u r literally quoting hitler
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do you see me speaking german
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what
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Surely the Japanese will never turn against us.
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Funnily enough, the Japanese also thought they had been unjustly fricked. From their perspective, they had singlehandedly won the East Asia theatre for the Allies, only for the Allies to try to strip them of their hard-fought territories (succeeding in 1922). Like China, Japan concluded that no matter how modern or Western they became, the racist Europeans would never treat them like an equal. Like China, Japan chose to violently reject Western liberal democracy.
Thus, the Treaty of Versailles not only led to the Chinese Communist Party but Imperial Japan.
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which intern drafted that document?
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Is this why Americans accept immigrants from every part of the world? So that it is impossible for any country to hate them on the grounds of America looking down on them?
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