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also the phones look like dildos
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I'm no expert but I've talked to people from back then and actually listened to wtf they said so I have a couple insights. And I'd like to try to be the devil's advocate for a lot of decisions made around this time. Maybe they weren't better choices but there's reasons why some people wanted them.
Notice that they're still wearing hanbok, the kind of traditional Korean clothes worn for centuries. That isn't some bullshit costume they made up for tourists. At the start of the war everyone was wearing this but after it they stopped. I'm guessing because their wardrobes were blown up.
Deciding when to blow a bridge is a really tough decision. In WW2 guys had made horrible mistakes blowing it too early or too late and it didn't fall so let's try not to be too judgmental.
On the strategic decisions If you read the President's Daily Brief (well the closest thing to it) you see what he was dealing with and it was everywhere. There were major crises in Yugoslavia and Indonesia which are forgotten because Truman succeeded in not getting into a war. There was Berlin and also Vienna, which had the same fricked-up arrangement as Berlin at the time so there was constant anxiety that Stalin would take our guys there hostage.
There was a very real fear that this was the first move in a plot by Stalin to unironically take over the world.
Remember we had just gone through WW2 which was started by the alliance of Hitler and Stalin. And we just had Pearl Harbor so there was a really intense fear of another surprise attack. So military leaders were going to Truman and telling him, you can't send this unit to Korea, we need it for the war, the real big war that's just about to start. And they had good reasons for it.
At the same time you've got the "who lost China?" debate. Just last year, the commies defeated China, one of our greatest allies, a country millions of our people had just worked their lives away to support. How in the frick did that just happen? We know there legit was at least one real spy ring in the State Department. Truman was in a position where he had just failed our asian allies. Was he going to do it again?
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Sorry ma'am, looks like his delusions have gotten worse. We'll have to admit him.
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What's astonishing to me is that the pre-Cold War era in Burgerland was that China was viewed very very very positively by yanks, and enormous support would pour out of america to China during their war against the Japanese
When you read actual history books of WW2, people like me are surprised just how positive and hopeful Yanks were of China,
and how Post-WW2 when China fell to the communists, the absolute horror yanks felt in their fear of Global communism, in fact it wasn't even the fall of Eastern Europe under the Iron Curtain of Stalin's Soviet Union, which provoked fear into yanks, but the sudden shocking (at least perceived by yanks at the time) failure of Chiang Kai-shek regime to beat them. From the eyes of ignorant civilians in america, who didn't know how bad things were for Chiang Kai-shek regime, and how it was in reality almost inevitable for the Communists to win due to the corruption of the Chiang Kai-shek regime, they had a horrible shock.
In one year they had a new fledgling "democratic" ally whom the public liked and pined for against the Japs in WW2, the nest year they had a mortal enemy, and possible future Superpower antagonist. It really drove the validity of the fear of communism having the power to punch over every consequent asian/african nation like dominoes.
https://www.history.com/news/china-role-world-war-ii-allies
I swear too go many yanks don't even know of the extremely good relations america had with China during WW2, cuz I was surprised when I had to dig up yank Histories of the era, it's like the Cold War sandblasted the yank public consciousness away, not out of malice, but because it was so far removed.
I've met Safricans/yanks who simply could not understand how the Red Menace fear had any real bearing or sense and had always believed that fear of communism was some bullshit excuse by americans for them to throw their weight as a Superpower, but once you understand the tremendous shock the fall of China had on the yank perception of communism, then that combined with Stalin's Iron Curtain over eastern Europe, would influence yanks behaviour over Korea and Vietnam.
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That's nice sweaty. Why don't you have a seat in the time out corner with Pizzashill until you calm down, then you can have your Capri Sun.
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It's sad to read stuff from 1945 where they're hopeful about everything. Thinking the United Nations will work and Nationalist China will be a big anti-imperialist power. They were in for so much disappointment so fast.
Also it's funny to see other countries where they thought the regime was strong but in hindsight we know it wasn't. Like thinking that the King of Egypt would be the most powerful guy in the Middle East.
The way it's taught in the US is that there was this terrible red scare and McCarthyism and that's it. No mention at all of the reasons why that happened, like finding out just how many people in the government were working for Russia during the 1940s.
I realized the Canadian who makes the "Our Fake History" podcast is a tard when he talked about the Cold War as if this was something that America dragged them into. Like they would have gotten along just fine with the Soviet Union if we hadn't forced them into NATO.
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Indonesian revolution was pretty brutal, good to remember when the dutch act like cute twinks and pretend their shit doesn't stink.
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And only ended when the USA told them to stop that shit immediately or we would cut off Marshall Plan aid. For some reason America doesn't get credit for helping like 80% of the colonies in the world gaining independence in the 1940s-1960s.
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unironically the worst thing America ever did tbh
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!metashit Capy longs for the days of Anglo-Egypt
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There
isn't a single 
country 
that profited from becoming independent from their European 
colonizers.
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America
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be doing much better 
as a British 
colony.
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Bad faith decolonization is called neocolonialism, commies view the West as a unified bloc so they don't think the US actually supported decolonization.
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Good guizi
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