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!historychads we should celebrate this !ifrickinglovescience achievement
!historychads we should celebrate this !ifrickinglovescience achievement
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The manchuria myth seems to be in full rampant spring in the modern consciousness - there sheer magnitude and scope of the island hopping warfare, in terms of naval combat, the British involvement in Burma, the island hopping campaigns in the philippines and surrounding islands is not appreciated, even by yanks
But most of all was the manner in which USA subs choked the very life out of Japan via their blockade in a far more successful variant that that of the Kraut U-boats in the Atlantic theatre,
by the time the mere 80 000 Soviets started their pronged assault into Manchuria from Siberia, the remnants of Japs garrisons there had been depleted to serve as island guardians against the Anglo-American island campaigns, additionally Japan's inability to reinforce their land armies in china, because of relentless American submarine warfare, made for the lionshare of the effort to cripple Japan's presence prior to the Soviet forces engaging in shitty remnants of the Imperial Army, which by this time had also exhausted themselves against the Bongs in Burma, and the crap but still numerous forces of the communist Mao and Warlords under Kai-shek ALLLLL of which had been primarily supplied by yank/bong material and supplies
pin this neocon
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And here I thought it was abundantly clear that the Soviets were just trying to grab some land for themselves since they knew Japan at the time couldn't possibly mount a proper defense and that the US wasn't going to be able to actually stop them in Manchuria. Didn't they even continue taking land a couple days after Japan's unconditional surrender?
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Yes, and after 1949 Mao told Stalin the USSR should give back the old Manchuria (including Vladivostok) to the chinks as those treaties were signed by Tsarist Russia and the Qing Dynasty, and as a sign of communist solidarity and brotherhood.
Then Stalin went just Nope.
Stalin also refused to send troops during the Korean War despite Mao's request and charged the chinks for using Soviet Equipment lmao.
Stalin was the only Soviet leader to cuck the chinks.
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And yet it wasn't until Krushchev that the chicoms and Soviets started beefing.
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Stalin also had a 13 year-old baby momma (that he abandoned)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Davydov_(soldier)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/secret-grandchild-joseph-stalin-whose-7696450
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NO REFUNDS
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The perfidious Cossack drooling at the thought of Hokkaido.
They already took Sakhalin, much as a theft of opportunity, since the Japs b-word slapped them when they tried to get froggy in 1905. There were also 500k Japanese and White Russians living in Sakhalin before the end of WW2, they all popped smoke to Hokkaido when the Sovioids came to loot.
Not to mention the godless Russoid deportation of hundred of thousands of Germans/Swabians in the Vojvodina by mass execution or sending the women and children to work in the coal mines of the Donbass after WW2
For all the US' faults, we never mass executed Germans or Japanese
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Don't forget about strategic bombing. Just like the RAF during the Ruhr campaign, the USAAF crippled the Japanese Industry (which was already lacking materials and oil due to the Naval blockade).
The United States wrecked Imperial Japan and that was the biggest reason they surrendered. The war was militarily won by august 1945, the A Bombs were a bucket of cold water so the Japanese High Command could have a grasp of reality and understand that "conditional surrender" was a fantasy.
Also, the Soviets had no Navy to invade Japan. The US was the only country which could pull out a ground invasion and "Operation Downfall" would have been an absolute bloodbath.
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What angers me about this talk about the A-bombs, is that the people who screetch loudest about them armor themselves in compassion, when in reality they veil themselves in hatred
They do not truly care about the suffering of Japanese civs, rather these events are taken s ammunition in their campaigns against the US, which is why i made the pithy comment in this thread about nobody giving a darn about the firebombing victims, because their suffering cannot be weaponized in the same way as that of the A-bomb victims, you said it yourself they had a profound psycological effect - when the firebombings or conventional bombings were utilized by ALL belligerents of the war, and thus singling out the US would be hypocritical
Over a million jap civs died in total from the Abombs, firebombings and conventional strategic bombing, but you always only hear about the sacred 250 000 of the Abombs, THE most evil america had comitted, not the 1000 000 who perished just as badly in fire in Tokyo or from shrapnel in their fricking guts dying slowly and just as cruelly as from radiation, because that 250 000 in the Abombs is highlighted from their hatred of Amerika/west rather than from compassion
Additionally, the manchuria myth is motivated by the exact same types, because they want to inflate the importance of the Soviet contribution to the defeat of Japan, while deflating thatt of the Yanks/anglos, Tankies also wish to inflate the importance of communist forces,
while also trying to heighten the depravity of America, if it could be deemed or proven that the Atomic bombings had been needless
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In ww2 the soviet union was a subsidiary of the united states. Literally.
This burns reddit's butt.
The US supplied them with nearly all the materiel that they needed to fight. This is described as "aid" but that's misleading. The US "aided" the Soviets in the same way I "aid" Marsey by supplying her with cat food.
So when Reddit prattles on about August Storm being more decisive than the bombs, even if that's true (which it isn't), the in vasion of Manchuria was conducted with American food and money. The invasion of Manchuria was, for all severe dolphins, an American operation.
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Worse than that actually, the five year plan to industrialize the Soviet Union was only accomplished because there were a lot of American engineers sitting around during the depression with no factories to build in America. The Soviets were able to pump out more tanks than the Germans because they were built in American factories that happened to be in Russia.
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When you look in the mirror, can you tell that you're stupid?
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Longpostbot jap warcrime apologist confirmed.
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Manchuria did have a large effect on Japanese leadership. I think you're underestimating what level of delusion they operated under in the best of times. They had fully convinced themselves that Stalin was going to broker a peace and they would negotiate down to only keeping SOME of their gains. Soviets invaded and the only alternative was a hundred million broken jewels
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.
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