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Moids cope when HVF sues IVF clinic for wrongly implanting male - not female - embryo from her wife during IVF :marseyindignantwoman: :shutupmale:

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  • Heather Wilhelhm-Routenberg and wife Robbie are suing CNY Fertility in Latham, New York

  • Robbie was originally meant to carry Heather's embryo, but miscarried

  • Heather then offered to carry Robbie's embryo, with the couple discovering they were expecting a boy at 15 weeks

  • Heather struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts during the pregnancy, and after giving birth

  • **Couple's son is now 15 months old, and the trio are bonding **

  • **Clinic has refused to comment on the lawsuit filed against them  **

A s*x assault survivor is suing a New York IVF clinic after it allegedly broke an agreement to insert a female embryo inside her, and she gave birth to a boy.

Assistant Dean for New Student Transitions at CUNY Geneseo Heather Wilhelhm-Routenberg and her wife, Robbie, who also works at the university as a chief diversity officer, are suing CNY Fertility Albany in Latham on 11 counts including breach of contract, medical malpractice and battery. They are seeking unspecified damages. CNY Fertility has refused to comment on the case.

The couple told the New York Post that they decided Heather would carry their child through in vitro fertilization (IVF) after Robbie had suffered a miscarriage during their first attempt to have a daughter.

They had opted to implant each other's embryos, meaning Robbie was given one of Heather's, and Heather received one of Robbie's after the first miscarriage.  The couple say they were assured that all embryos implanted would be female.

At first, the couple were excited to go through the motions of expecting a child all over again, the New York Post reported.

However, once the couple approached the 15-week benchmark of the fertilization process, their Obstetrician-Gynecologist (OB-GYN) proceeded to check on the QNatal test (a simple blood test that can screen for certain genetic conditions, including a lack of chromosomes) of Heather's pregnancy.

The doctor, whose name was not shared, asked the couple: 'Wait, do you know the s*x of the baby?'

'We're having a girl,' Heather replied. 'It's very important to me to have a girl,' she added. But the couple were horrified to discover that they were actually having a boy, with Heather since saying learning she had a male fetus inside her was 'just like r*pe.'

They initially feared that another person's embryo had been implanted by mistake, rather than Robbie's. But subsequent testing revealed that the embryo did indeed belong to Robbie.

Recalling the moment they'd discovered what had happened, Heather said: 'Our jaws dropped to the floor. I was convinced it had to be someone else's result.

'I looked at Robbie and said, “What's if it's not yours — who is in my body?!” That's when I flipped out, that's when I felt my body was taken hostage. I assumed it was someone else's embryo, not the wrong embryo of ours.

'It scared the s**t out of me. I don't know how to explain this — it felt like there was an alien living inside of me.

'I said to Robbie, “If this is someone else's kid, we will have to give it back.”

'Our OB offered us the option to abort. I respect others' decisions, but that was never a choice I could make in these circumstances. I was hoping beyond hope someone would have our baby and we would switch after birth and it would be this happy story.'

Prior to her pregnancy, Heather had suffered trauma from being a victim of sexual assault after she left college, carried out by two men on two separate occasions. She told the Post that she never considered having a baby boy due to the assaults and because of the stigma in today's society of what it means to be a 'real man'.

The night before her ultrasound, which took a place a day after her QNatal test, Heather remembered lying in bed and overwhelmingly thinking: 'This can't be happening!” Not only was the baby in my body not ours, but the baby in my body was male and he was put there against my will, just like r*pe.'

She started having negative, dark thoughts, and compared them to the ones she had after being sexually assaulted. Robbie tried to offer comfort, but Heather was distraught.

The couple met in 2002 while completing their bachelor degrees at SUNY Geneseo, where they both now work. The couple were in an on-again-off-again relationship before deciding to give things another go in 2008. They successfully did before getting married in 2012.

Then, the pair wanted to have two daughters and knew that at ages 35 that they were warned they were relatively old when signing up for an IVF.

'We wanted to minimize the risk of anything going wrong, so the clinic recommended genetic testing of the embryos,' Heather said. 'We selected CNY because they agreed we would be able to select female embryos. We never intended to use the males.'

Heather and Robbie proceeded with the pregnancy, and took it to term.

Heather was rushed to the ER with bleeding at 27 weeks and discovered she had suffered a placental abruption.

She says she's convinced the stress of the gender ordeal caused the medical emergency.

Heather recalled: 'I was put on modified bed rest. I just wanted the baby out of me. That's sounds horrible but it's true. We were so worried about me going off the deep end, we didn't talk about the baby unless we had to.'

The couple's son, who they have not named, arrived in December 2020, and was rushed to NICU.

Heather and Robbie are now bonding with their son, and Heather says she feels a great deal of guilt over how he came into the world.

She explained: 'I had wanted skin-to-skin connection but I ended up wearing things so he wouldn't touch my chest. When he did, it sent electric shockwaves through me.

'I started experiencing extreme anxiety. I would look at the baby and it would contort into the faces of all these grown men that I know. It was so creepy. Whenever that happened, I had to give the baby to Robbie.'

Heather told of how she suffered postpartum depression and suicidal thoughts at her lowest ebb, but says she is gradually coming to terms with what has happened.

She said: 'I never want to come off ungrateful. If I was, he wouldn't be here.

'The baby is a year and a half now, and I think about the mistake all the time. He's a lovely kid. He smiles just like Robbie, he has Robbie's dimples, and that makes it easier. Our son is made of magic. He does things to be funny — he'll use certain tones of voice and laughs to make us crack up. He's hilarious, and he's been an easy baby.'

Heather says she has bonded with Robbie, and added: 'I feel immense guilt and shame because I wasn't able to be emotionally present for him. I don't want to play the victim.

'He's an innocent being, he didn't deserve any of this. The clinic messed with something so integral: our baby's first formative years. That's the reason I am doing this — because I love my kid so much. We think our son deserved that bond from the start.'

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>Our OB offered us the option to abort

Demons.

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The kid will come out as trans at 24 weeks

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Or at the very least, started on puberty blockers. Poor kid never stood a chance.

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Heather was rushed to the ER with bleeding at 27 weeks and discovered she had suffered a placental abruption.

She tried to anyway.

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Adult woman versus boy fetus: fetus wins

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dudes really do rock

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Someday that kid is gonna find this information and whatever horrible thing it does will be justified.

Also, they can guarantee a girl? How? I thought it was the sperm that decided s*x.

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With IVF, they whip up a couple of embryos in a petri dish before choosing which one to implant into the mom's womb. They can test to see which babbys have the winkie chromosome and toss them out.

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Least ethically questionable modern day medical procedure

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When rvw was overturned women were worried they would have to outlaw fertility clinics. Since you basically kill 10 fertilized eggs when doing so. It's expensive so you usually implant 2 hoping you get 1 or 2 to stick. If they don't you try again with the others. When something sticks, the others can't be frozen so they dump them. Since life begins at conception it's anywhere from 0-20 abortions all at once. Into the trash you go.

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Alright here's the deal.

I will start valuing embryo lives right after I start valuing black lives.

Keep the procedures going.

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Treating a blastocyst like a fully-fledged human being makes as much sense as treating every unfertilized egg discarded in a period as a murder.

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:marseytrump: wrong

I do like the idea of fertilizing a thousand human ova, then sticking them under a hydraulicpress, all just to upset christcucks, though.

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The embryos can be frozen indefinitely, most people just don't want to pay the storage costs and choose to dispose of the excess embryos once they're done with ivf. There are also programs to donate unused embryos to other couples with more serious fertility issues.

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They should implant all 10 eggs and give her the death penalty if any fail to survive to adulthood.

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Good. Total moid death!

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It is the sperm that determines s*x, the egg only has X, while the sperm has X or Y. I'm not sure exactly how IVF works, maybe they inseminate multiple eggs and select the most viable one.

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You push two eggs together really hard and that makes an XX baby

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Push too hard and you break a leg off, making that X into a Y


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But eggs are round?

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big if true

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Why are you blocking me? :marseytears:

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maybe they inseminate multiple eggs and select the most viable one.

this is exactly what they do

even during normal, natural insemination there's a pretty non-trivial chance that the embryo is non-viable. that's why couples might be "trying for a baby" for a few months before getting one. IVF obviously doesn't want that kind of failure rate.

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The Y chromosome weighs more so if you put the sperm in a centrifuge the boy sperm ends up at the outside and the girl sperm stays on the inside.

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I think it's the other way around, the Y chromosome only contains a third the base pairs the X has and mostly switches genes on other chromosomes on and off.

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That explains why all this jizz tastes girly

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Find out… that his moms wanted a girl? That's more mundane than teen pregnancy and kids forgive their parents for that all the time.

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The article treated the boy like a foriegner invading their body and are suing over it. Thats gonna mess with the kid when they find out.

Either that or theyll make him a girl. Not sure which one is worse.

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A medical professional REALLY fricked up. But whatever this is all just a postmodern Mistakes Into Miracles.

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!nonchuds help me out here, this r-slur has me stumped

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found the incel

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Pre-implantation selection of embryos. Science is wonderful, don't you know? There are services which say they will screen for all kinds of potential genetic disorders and you can select your 'perfect' embryo out of a bunch to be implanted.

Of course, it's not 100% perfect so it seems the clinic did screw up by implanting a male embryo, but honestly, the problem is that people nowadays expect they can have everything on demand by ordering it and paying for it, and they've turned pregnancy into the same kind of "we want the deluxe model, here are our list of must-haves" and they expect to get exactly what they paid for or else.

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My parents just did it the old-fashioned way, giving birth to a bunch of kids and then shooting the ones that looked r-slurred. Jokes on them, I survived.

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Reminder that lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic abuse by far.

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That kid is gonna get mentally and physically :marseyterfdomesticabuse: growing up.

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Please remember to share the source material for such insightful and important information

https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/statistics/lgbtq-and-domestic-violence

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Always have a link at the bottom it pisses them off further

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Foids know what other foids crave.

Trans lives matter, unlike legacy foids'.

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>says that lesbians have the highest rate of Da

>posts graphs that shows bisexual have a higher rate than lesbians

>somehow doesn't choke on their own tongue

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"""bisexual""" women

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Bisexual women also date lesbians.

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wrong, those are lesbians who also take the D

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>44%

People here go broke all the time goombling on those odds.

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Doubling the amount of foids in a relationship doubles the amount of foidnonsense, which doubles the liklihood of a rational being's need to quell the foidnonsense.

Really, this can all easily be explained by arithmetic.

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Dudes ROCK

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>We're having a girl,' Heather replied. 'It's very important to me to have a girl,' she added. But the couple were horrified to discover that they were actually having a boy,

Why are they assuming the gender of the baby?

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They are bigots, plain and simple

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not to worry comrade, they'll fix the gender soon enough

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Why do gay couples ALWAYS have boy surrogate babies? Why do lesbian couples ALWAYS have girl IVF babies?

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You need to stop asking questions before you get yourself hurt, bucko

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Can you stop blocking me? :marseytears:

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Because two gay men might have more experiences they can relate to a boy child and a lesbian couple to a girl child.

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:marseyaware:

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Why do lesbian couples ALWAYS have girl IVF babies?

R-slurs have r-slur babies

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Because they want something more in common with their kid? Where's your imagination taking this?

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lesbians

HVF

:#platybruh:

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HVF

what is hvf

Edit high-value female? no, no, really, what does it mean

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Why don't they just breed with each other?

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I'm sure that child will have a normal and healthy upbringing


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Poor kid

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Tbh cute butches shouldn't be allowed to raise :marseysuspicious: moids.

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not as funny as this lawsuit

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(1) That baby should be taken away from these two lunatics because this is just screaming "child abuse going to happen"

(2) If the "wife" likes to pretend she is a 'man' with that name and clothing, what is wrong with having a real male child?

(3) These people are crazy. I feel sorry for normal trans people who just want to live quietly and not be constantly screaming for attention. These people being the face of your 'movement' must be like having Hitler endorse vegetarianism.

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That's what I love, the pooners that hate men (even though we pretty much ignore them) yet desperately try to look like us

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'Our OB offered us the option to abort. I respect others' decisions, but that was never a choice I could make in these circumstances.

:marseybikecuck: but female

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Keep an eye on this kid he's gonna be a massive serial killer or school shooter in 20 years.


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Prior to her pregnancy, Heather had suffered trauma from being a victim of sexual assault after she left college, carried out by two men on two separate occasions.

:#marseyslutshaming:

She told the Post that she never considered having a baby boy due to the assaults and because of the stigma in today's society of what it means to be a 'real man'.

:#marseyinsane:

This can't be happening!” Not only was the baby in my body not ours, but the baby in my body was male and he was put there against my will, just like r*pe.'

:#marseyschizotwitch:

I love the crazy ones!

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after she left college, carried out by two men on two separate occasions.

Why does she need a man to carry her, let her walk if she wants to leave.

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I cannot conceive of something horrible enough to draw as a parallel for you.

Just know you're wrong.

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>see parallelogram

:#marseyscream: AHHHHH!!!

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I hatelove you. :marseyembrace: :marseybackstab:

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reported for misinformation

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:marseyitscovidver:

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Is it not a little weird for a lesbian couple to insist on having girls? If a gay couple insisted on boys I feel like there would be a little noticing.

Also they can just transition the boy into a girl so I don't get what the issue is.

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No? IVF is expensive and you get the option to select for a few things, determining s*x is normal. Also having a daughter means they have more in common developmentally and don't have to deal with a teen moid down the line.

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I know a lesbian couple who had two sons via sperm donation, and those boys are growing up a little fricked up without a male influence. I'm not even talking about shit like dressing up as Elsa for Halloween one year. They just do not know how to deal with aggression at all and I think it's partly because the moms shut down any roughhousing.

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tf is a diversity officer?

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Oy mate, do you have a loicence for that white skin? :marseycop:

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Cunny transitions assistant Herma Göring-Rohtenberg and her wife, Oberstabsführer for diversity, wanted a girlfrankenbaby but Dr Mengele made a mistake.

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I am very confused about an embryo being transplanted between two women. So the baby technically has 3 parents -- the sperm donor, the woman who was artificially inseminated, then the woman who the fertilized embryo was moved to?

She's a surrogate with extra risks?


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Yes although often times both women will get impregnated by the same doner sperms so they have 2 kids that are siblings.

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I'm pretty sure I saw that film

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I think they can now make fertilized eggs from two foids now

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Clearly not as there would be no chance of the child being male if that was the case.

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I don't trust the science


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The baby has two parents, it's just one unrelated woman doing all the hard work of pregnancy :marseybikecuck:

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:marseyconfused: I thought it was a lesbian couple?

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This neighbor knows about microchimerism but doesn't know about how the relationship between surrogate and fetus changes the fetus on the genetic level?

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>the relationship between surrogate and fetus changes the fetus on the genetic level

:#marseywtf2: that has to cause some kind of problem, right???

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Somewhat similar to the problems/risks of organ transplants. Also iirc the immune system will be entirely/partly the surrogate's.

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Isn't the immune system not necessarily genetic though? Antibodies are based on inoculation which is why that makes sense

The transplant issues must suck though :marseysad: imagine your body rejecting a literal baby inside of you

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Truuuuue microchimerism for the win tho

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did you just copy/paste an entire article

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Yes?

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:#gigachad2:

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IM TELLING :hysterical:

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darn now they're gonna have to get used to raping a boy child instead of a girl child no wonder she was suicidal

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Everyone knows a mommy can only have girls, and a daddy can only have boys.

This is a big mess up! Wow!

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That kid is going to have the shittiest of lives. Imagine if he found this article 18 years later.

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Why wait to 18.

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the mens rights soapboxing is coming from within the house

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