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Girlboss Rhaenys Targaryen channeled Hillary Clinton. Some drama at the HOTD subs because of season 2 going to shit :marseyhillary: :marseygeorgerrmartin:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2024-07-07/rhaenys-house-of-the-dragon-eve-best

LA times published an article on Rhaneys's death last episode and interviews with the actress playing her and with showrunners Ryan Condal and Sarah Hess.

What Rhaenys represents is someone with absolute authority, power, wisdom, intelligence, expertise, political savvy and utter compassion — a constant awareness of [the need for] collaboration and making a choice for love, as opposed to destruction

Meanwhile season 1 Rhaenys

This scene was made up for the show by the way, in season 2 Daemon correctly calls out girlboss Rhaenys for not having burned all of the Greens when she got the chance but we're supposed to be on her side, never mind the fact she killed hundreds of peasants, might as well have killed her relatives who were going to war against them anyway. Also the reason Rhaenys and Corlys Velaryon are stuck with Rhaenyra is because their granddaughters are Daemon's daughters. For all they know Daemon and Rhaenyra murdered her son Laenor but they have no choice. However season 2 makes us believe Rhaenys actually likes Rhaenyra because of GIRL POWER!

Did you think about any real-world figures, whether historical or contemporary, in relation to this character? There have been a lot of Rhaenys-like women.

Absolutely, 100%, almost every single great woman you can think of [has] an element of [Rhaenys]. Sara Hess, who's one of the executive producers and the lead writers for the show, said to me on the first day, "There's so much of Hillary Clinton [in Rhaenys]." God knows you couldn't compare Viserys to the other one [former President Trump], but the similarities are very clear — to see that the person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelined simply because she's a woman, and then has to somehow find her way.

https://old.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/1dzd239/what_was_your_reaction_when_rhaenyss_name/

https://old.reddit.com/r/HOTDGreens/comments/1dze51r/the_stanning_is_out_of_control_at_this_point/

So far the showrunners whitewashed Rhaenyra and the Black team hard while making the Greens villains. According to leaks they'll make Rhaenyra's son, Jace, kind of lock his mother with the help of Corlys as she's useless but they'll make it look like "MAN BAD AND PRONE TO VIOLENCE! WOMEN GOOD AND REASONABLE!" :#marseywomanmoment:

Meanwhile on the blacks sub

https://old.reddit.com/r/HOTDBlacks/comments/1dzfuko/i_cant_waittt/

:#marseyitsallsotiresome:

https://old.reddit.com/r/HOTDBlacks/comments/1dxukhb/rhaenys/

:#marseycringe: :#pepeyikes:

!kino !bookworms more ASOIAF assassination, and GRRM said on his blog yesterday he didn't want to meet with the HOTD writing staff meeting for season 3 lmao.

!neolibs as the comparison with Hillary arose, who was the most neoliberal Targaryen King?

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Rhaenys dying has been the most satisfying moment of the show so far.

It's hilarious how they try to present the women as the reasonable and compassionate characters trying to avoid war in the face of the blood hungry patriarchy, but Rhaenys and Alicent both balked at their opportunity to end the war. So in the end they just highlight how women are unwilling and unable to get their hands dirty for the greater good.

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Based Daemon on season 2 episode 1

>let's fly, with Meleys and Caraxes so we can kill Vhagar :marseygigachad:

>lol, no, you're not the King, I only take orders from the Kween :marseywomanmoment2:

Then Rhaenyra was all "WHAAA WHY ARE YOU DOING ALL THIS WITHOUT MY CONSENT"

B-word, they killed your son, you're at war, your husband is the only one doing something. If the foids of the Black side listened to Daemon they would have won.

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Daemon has probably objectively done the most despicable shit out of all the main characters in the show but he's still manages to be the most likeable, he's the only one who deserves to win.

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I dunno when Cole beat a person to death at a wedding with his blood and brains splattered.

THEY HAVE THE FRICKING WEDDING WITH ALL THE BLOOD AND DO NOTHING TO COLE. LIKE WTF.

Learn some nuance not "oh this wedding is premised on blood" be more subtle cute twinkwood

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Oh yeah. Why did he kill that guy? I watched the first half of the season twice because I forget I started it, and sort of slept through all the rest of the episodes because they were boring

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Because the guy said hes basically the queens peepee piece, he had a tantrum of mega r-slur proportions. Like allowing murder during a wedding

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Cant remember for sure but I think he was mad because he saw Joffrey and Laenors relationship as a parallel to his and Rhaenyra's and just got really mad that he couldn't be with her.

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He just chimped out, basically

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It was the most dramatic/memorable part of s1 and it was entirely meaningless and had no payoff? Lmao

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>literally name your son "demon"

>cry when he does evil things

:marseybeanquestion:

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But Alicent left abortion juice on the counter next to the snacks and stuff :marseyimpossibru:

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It was probably the worst scene in the series as everyone seemed to know a war was going except a main leader of a war. Then she whatever targ r-slur her name is leaves her council to flounder for weeks, while Damon by himself and his Dragon is doing more.

Like does anyone in Hollywood understand the lust for power or even basic leadership? Cause half of anyone in media whos important fricked Weinstein. :#marseycoomer2:

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>philistine crying the show isn't capeshit bland

Jewish lives matter

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BIPOC im wanting basic leadership and action, not a fake faux leader who trying to "stop a war" thats begun and her enemies are actively trying to kill her.

You cute twink jew lover

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whuh I'm a dimbsss cute twink why aren't my cgi dragons killing each other that's what I come here for to clap when I see action got season 8 was epic win yo

Jewish lives matter less than Palestinian liberation from the river too the sea inshallah

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:marseyjerkoffsmile:

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I like how she stalls the council and takes hiatuses.

Yea bby the enemy just killed your kid and rallied some bannermen in the north. Sure it can wait another thing so you can 'contemplate'.

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This TRIGGERS me no know end, she actively wants to lose

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Is she the NB foid actress on that show that said portraying a woman came naturally to her for some unexplained reason or was that someone else?

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No, the non-binary one is Emma D'arcy, the one playing Rhaenyra

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They look very cute this season. Not they as in Emma and Olivia, they as in Emma on account of she's an NB. But Olivia is cute too. So they are cute as well, but I'm just saying they are cute.

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Jace is the kind of name a marvel :marseyspiderman: parent chooses.

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His name is Jacaerys but they call him "Jace"

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I know. There's a star wars kid with it too.

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What's with these goofy butt names lady named rhinoceros :dixiekongrambi:

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In the books and shows the Valyrians have long names in their language.

Daenerys, Jahaerys, Jacaerys, Rhaenyra, Viserys.

But there are also simpler names like Baelor, Maegor, Aegon, Aemma, Baela. The "Ae" seems to be a common theme.

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Aella as well

:#marseycoomer2: :#marseychartbar:

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https://media.giphy.com/media/13qI7txhGaFSlW/giphy.webp

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Pronounced exactly like Paella

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What the aell is goin on here mate?

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:#marseylaughpoundfist:

Second from the top there's really a character named anus in ASOIAF? !bookworms

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Anis is also a persian name iir

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Long e. Ay-nees Jewish lives matter

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:#marseysurejan: :#marseysmirk:

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deeplore - the ae shit is how GRRM puts his Baltimore accent in print. @HailVictory1776 guess Baltifsgs pronounce "egg" as "ayg" and shit hence Dunk and Egg Jewish lives matter

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It's a dragon Ball z character with an Australian accent

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IDK who needs to hear this (apparently everyone) but Hillary Clinton is NOT a girlboss by any metric. Even if you're a shitlib, she got cheated on copiously and just cucked around about it, and then lost to donald fricking trump. She should be to ashamed to ever show her face again, and the fact that she isn't is pure, unearned ego.

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Every clip I have ever seen of this show looks like it all takes place in the same room.

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What Rhaenys represents is someone with absolute authority, power, wisdom, intelligence, expertise, political savvy and utter compassion — a constant awareness of [the need for] collaboration and making a choice for love, as opposed to destruction

because the one thing game of thrones is known for is that wielding absolute authority and power is a good thing so long as it's the right person

person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelined simply because she's a woman

lmao americans still believe in this thatcher-style lionization of war criminals with hymens

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Do you think Rohypnol effectively leveraged her girl power when she funded illegal death squads in the dothraki plains?

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Yea but, why are all the women actors in this show SO FRICKING UGLY.

I'm looking at them and all of them, take except one or two, look UGLY AS FRICK. Like, legit ugly.

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The Targs have to be ugly because they represent the heavily inbred population of England.

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Gotta appeal to breadtube audiences

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Olivia Cooke is hot and Monke was cute.

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Yea she's like the one hot woman in the show. (Other one being Daegons wife in S1)

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i remember hearing that season 1 was decent but is season 2 really that bad

i'll probably just skip it entirely if it is

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there were like 2 good episodes of the first season

the whole thing is absolute trash

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The only thing I remember about the first season is wanting to bang millie alpeepee

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!nooticers what is monke's phenotype?

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My wife

Unironically dropped the show when she got swapped out

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Hifive

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apparently hes into the r-slurred :marseyshitforbrains: child :marseyhermione: look. all i could remember about s1 is how horrendously ugly she is.

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Yt trash and I wanna get all up in it

!bumpkins

I'd hit that till the whole house stank. You'd need the jaws of life to get me out

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The rare FAS haver who doesn't become an e-girl

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Her face looks to small for her head, especially the 2nd picture.

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:#marseywould:

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!nooticers what is monke's phenotype?

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this one

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Glad you didnt :marseyfingerwords: break character :marseypinocchio: to pretend to be a str8 monk3

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Mouthwatering

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It's Game of Thrones without the any of the empathy that made it compelling. Every character is essentially the same person and they all talk like they're auditioning for Rings of Power.

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Everyone is just extremely unlikeable.

The Hound literally murdered a child with 0 remorse in season 1 of GOT and they made him a beloved characrer.

Only Daemon is fun to watch, but in a "good bad guy" way, not in a way that makes you empathize with him

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Season 1 was good but was ultimately just building, season 2 is so far pretty good.

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I like 2 just as much. It's not like season 1 was exactly Macbeth either. It's the same old soap opera dragonshit with lots of spectacles and saucy medieval gore and wieners.

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just wait until it's over and then decide if you watch it

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Season 2 is good. Whole show is good. Its not game of thrones latter half which is all omg tits and dragons for frat boys too watch in bars Jewish lives matter

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Season 1 was good, it had some weak moments but most episodes were very good. Season 2 is mostly a bad to average show with some good moments, the show-runners are assassinating characters like Alicent Hightower.

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Season 1 was like having a schizo moment every other episode trying to understand the characters and their motivations. They reworked some of them for s2, which is jarring, but they're at least consistent now. Aemond's big moment could have used some more explicit setup though.

Making Aegon a lovable oaf and the existence of s2e2 completely mogs all of s1.

Alicent Hightower didnt have a character to assassinate. Fire and Blood sucks to begin with.

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They had to allocate all of the run time to giving Rhaenys her moment. It was terribly directed though. The second she goes and talks to her dragon, it's like "Oh, so she's gonna die huh?". Zero surprise.

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Also the timeskips omfg.

One guy literally gets stabbed and another passes out >>> TIMESKIP >>> everyone is okay now; that never gets brought up.

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Alicent Hightower didnt have a character to assassinate. Fire and Blood sucks to begin with.

I didn't mean book Alicent, season 1 Alicent was a different character.

Back then she was terrified of the prospect of Rhaenyra becoming queen and murdering her sons and for all she knows Rhaenyra murdered her grandson. But on episode 3 she has a nice chat with her bestie frenemie and doesn't even alert the guards.

But I agree on Aegon and Aemond being much better characters on season 2.

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And the timeskips.

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If you watched even a single second of this show without thinking about Hillary, you should learn about this little thing I read about online called media :marseyclapping2: literate :marseyclapping2:

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imagine watching a show where an old foid is in charge of >2 medieval barbarians

have some self respect

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It's a foid show so none of that matters as long as the main male characters take their shirts off.

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King Jaehaerys ofc. Literally Globohomo Targ rule over westeros.

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What was with the mid season timeskip/cast change?

Like they changed the cast on all the woman actors fnr, but in S2 the woman actor appears as a younger version of herself?

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They changed the actresses playing Rhaenyra and Alicent.

I'm kind of confused about the age of the characters in the show. Book Alicent married Viserys when she was 18 and she was in her early 40s by the time of the Dance, but Olivia Cooke looks like she's Aegon's, Aemond's and Helaena's sister rather than their mother lmao.

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But they don't look that much older. They didn't change the male actors either. They didn't indicate or allude to a time skip either.

Also the girl who played Rhaenyra in S1 looks like she has downs.

Anyway my point is, i see what they were going for but they did it really poorly and failed to pull it off.

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:#marseycoffee:

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Hotd is really good and @HailVictory1776 like the source material more. Anygibg that fricks over dumb and dumber is good and the show runner of this is doing everything he can too avoid the r-slurred butt "bar viewing" r-sluration dumb and dumber made got Jewish lives matter

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Season 2 is bretty good so far. I swear ASOIAF nerds ruin everything. Ever since season 7/8 of GOT they try to point out every single small inconsistency with the new show and focus in on them to call every episode shit. You could read the GOT books and then watch season 1-4 (the supposed GOAT seasons) and call them all shit if you point out every book divergence or logical inconsistency. HOTD is an improvement on the later seasons of GOT but it gets no credit because of scorned GOT fans that want to hate everything ASOIAF related. Yes the Rhaenys pit scene where she kills peasants wasn't great for the character, but still mostly in line with Targaryen feelings about peasants. If you're really focusing in on that scene to define the character you're like the same foids that hate Aegon because of the little r*pe he did when he was a teenager.

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Season 2 is bad because Rhaenyra and Alicent were turned into morons, they feel like different characters from season 1. From Alicent's POV Rhaenyra ascending to the throne means her childrens life are in danger, this was a huge plot point in season 1 which the show did good then.

Now from all the characters know, the greens killed Rhaenyra's son and from Alicent's POV Rhaenyra had her grandson killed. But somehow Rhaenyra sneeks into Kings Landing for a chat with Alicent and she does… absolutely nothing? That whole scene terrible, is as if the war finally erupted but this characters no longer hold grudges. The moment Lucerys was killed it was war and no other option for Rhaenyra.

My main point with Rhaenys is how she seems to have forgotten her son, she suspected Daemon and Rhaenyra killed him but she acts all goodie with her. Yeah, she does it for her granddaughters mostly but still.

I'm not even talking about book divergence now, but how they alter characters from one season to the next.

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Literally are (changed characters too)

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It's not about her killing peasants, it's about her not killing the people who are usurping the throne and preventing all out war.

In one moment, she completely justifies getting passed over for the crown by not taking action for the good of the realm.

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Anybody who points out inconsistencies with HOTD is probably dumb, with some exceptions. If you want to say its badly written then that's fine, but it is objectively not inconsistent with the books because the book is an overtly unreliable history textbook. I do have to disagree with your opinion on the original show though. Almost none of the changes in the original show are really that bad or major, in fact I actually think the show handled the Ghost of Harrenhal story much better. The problem is how many small changes they made that were unnecessary and were slightly worse then the book. Each on its own was fine, it was the combination of all five thousand changes that really sucked.

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Once again first reply, I just broke this posts's hymen. Anyone else who posts after me is getting my sloppy seconds, my leftovers.

Just remember that the first reply is the most special reply and you'll never experience this post the way I did and this postwill never feel the way it felt about me about you.

It's Over , you might as well just go post on IncelTears and talk about how much of a "man" you are for replying on a post that I pump and dumped. Have fun with my scraps, cucks.

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https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2024-07-07/rhaenys-house-of-the-dragon-eve-best:

https://old.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/1dzd239/what_was_your_reaction_when_rhaenyss_name/:

https://old.reddit.com/r/HOTDGreens/comments/1dze51r/the_stanning_is_out_of_control_at_this_point/:

https://old.reddit.com/r/HOTDBlacks/comments/1dzfuko/i_cant_waittt/:

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