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!bookworms, !kino, they're right about Dahl being an antisemite, but that wasn't why he hated Mel Stuart's film and Gene Wilder's portrayal of Wonka. He hated them for the same reason he hated most adaptations of his work; they had almost nothing in common with his novels. The one and only adaptation he ever praised was The BFG (1989), which changed some aspects of the plot, but, unlike all the other adaptations of his work, kept the same tone as the original. :marseyprojection:

Not that any of that makes Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory a bad movie. Donn Pearce hated Stuart Rosenberg's adaptation of Cool Hand Luke and Paul Newman's portrayal of the title character, even though according to every other human being on the face of the planet, the film was far better than the novel. People just don't like seeing their creations changed into something unrecognizable, quality notwithstanding. :marseychudnotes:

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Cinephiles don't like to hear it but Tim Burton's adaptation was much closer to the book material and Dahl would likely have loved it.

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Really? I think he'd have hated it, but for completely different reasons than the '71 film. Giving Wonka a backstory, particularly one where he is the way he is because of something as puerile as "daddy issues", is totally antithetical to the character in the novel. :marseyfreud:

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Wonka a backstory, particularly one where he is the way he is because of something as puerile as "daddy issues", is totally antithetical to the character in the novel. :marseyfreud:

Yeah, probably have a point there. I meant stuff like the story being more centered around Charlie and likely the displaying of the grand scale of the factory which was possible in the 2000s. Plus the squirrels instead of the golden geese.

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I hated the squirrels as a kid. As I grew up it became apparent to me that the squirrelets are meant to represent the jews that are constantly being chased and hunted by the Nazis during the holocaust. :marseyspecial:

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His widow said that he'd have liked it iirc. It kept the same tone as the book even with the goofy additions and changes.

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https://media.giphy.com/media/KKMXhnCuShXsQ/giphy.webp

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I was surprised by the online discourse about the Tim burton one lol, I thought it was a good movie because they adapted the book almost perfectly (except the wonka daddy issues part which was goofy). Was fairly shocked that people disliked the oompa loompa songs

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I think James and the Giant Peach most closely captured the atmosphere of Dahl's books

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I agree. Unfortunately, Dahl passed away several years prior to that film's release. :marseylibations:

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But it is a bad movie.

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In fairness to Dahl, he hated basically everyone equally

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!bookworms Mr. (((Slugworth))), Mr. (((Prodnose))) and Mr. (((Fickelgruber))) never got their hands into Willy Wonka's secret recipes

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But isn't one of them supposed to be an actual employee tasked by Wonka himself to look like a (((business competitor))) so that there can be an additional test to the children to not succumb to pressure and waste their golden ticket by selling out??? :marseyschizowave:

that might've been a movie-only thing though so idk :tayshrug:

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It's a movie thing only yes. But even in the 1971 movie that character's real name is Mr. Wilkinson, and he was pretending to be Slugworth to trick Charlie. But there is a real Mr. Slugworth out there who tried to steal Wonka's secrets.

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just read Dahl's wiki page bc didn't know too much about his antisemitism. Wow. He said the exact same stuff antisemites are saying today. Don't they get tired?

Shit, didnt know he was pro palestine

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!palestine

Be tall wealthy young man (6 foot 6"), be cool and drive cars to fast.

Be literal fighter pilot flying hurricanes and killing Nazis on picturesque Greek islands.

Hang around with Ernest Hemingway

Become writer bring joy to millions of children

Be sexually liberated.

Be mates with genre defining working class war veteran comedian who fought nazis, who's anti Semitic (Spike Milligan)

Also be Anti Semite.

How can a man get any better

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Dude gender ontology is settled science; the soul is real and it has a gender which you can identify by reflecting on your irreducible gender qualia, bigot. It's called basic common sense and human decency.

Snapshots:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Jewish/comments/1e0am9y/just_wanted_to_share_this_historical_factoid/:

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