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The most predictable thing happened :marseywait: as Francis Ford Coppola's MegaSLOPolis bombs hard. Gets D+ cinemascore as well :marseyunamused:.

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Every cringe thing you heard about the film is true as well. Some unfortunate theater wagie :marseymcwagie: has to ask Adam driver's character a question so that they can break the 4th wall and talk directly to the audience.

!kino.

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When I read that I refused to believe it... but holy frick it's true.

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There are no definitive matriarchies at any point in history.

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That's because women weren't so arrogant as to assume anybody would care how they lived their lives and led their people

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you forgot about the the fallen west :#chuditsover:

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wow he's r-slurred

>men are... le bad :marseysoyhype:

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When powerful older white men go "woke" it's often because they have deep regrets about shit they did when they were young or they try to make up for shit they're still doing today.

Externalizing their personal guilt to all whites, or all men, is a big relief.

They also often live in the past -- in the 1970s, when Ford was in his 30s, racism and sexism were real problems, so they must be today still. The grifters and activists feed that narrative, reward them for believing it and punish them for questioning it.

Additionally his worldview is based on the film industry, a morally rotten place, and he projects that onto normal Americans, Hollywood scum like to delude themselves that normal Americans are even more evil than they are.

On top of that he's too old to get the news from anywhere but the TV, he's probably throatgoating MSNBC histrionics about Trump 24/7.

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What hes describing would make sense as a description of the evolutionary period before we developed the capacity for planning

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My old lady always has a plan. Her plan is for me to decide where we're gonna go for dinner.

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Oddly enough the movie feels very misogynistic

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"if civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts" but in a GOOD WAY

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He's talking about the Kurgan Hypothesis, an r-slured idea that evolved out of proto-Nazi German racial theory. This kind of bullshit was prominent in pop science in boomer times, and back then you couldn't just get on the internet and find out the real science. But these people wouldn't have bothered to find out the real science anyway. They're midwits just like the ones from our generations, people who decide that it's easier to be a lazy r-slur than actually think hard.

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Pill me on the kurgan hypothesis

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  • Sphereserf3232 : They built boats r-slur :marsey57: also what's the bicameral stuff?

Some r-slurred shit about how everyone was being all matriarchal and lived in Eden and then these evil men from the Eurasian steppe came in and... forced every culture on the Earth to be the way it is. Which I find confusing because you can't ride a horse to Japan or Colombia or Tahiti.

It's like that joke in the Dead Milkmen song "Bitchin' Camaro" about telling the stoner that you're "driving a car up from the Bahamas" and he's so r-slurred he actually believes you. Except it's a very important scientific theory.

It's like the bicameral mind nonsense but not quite as incredibly r-slurred.

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Which I find confusing because you can't ride a horse to Japan or Colombia or Tahiti.

Well maybe you could 3000 years ago :marseyindignant:

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You could have gone to England in the Ice Age but those wouldn't work. Try to keep up on knowing where water is deep. :marseyindignantgook:

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Oh yeah? Well were you there PERSONALLY? :marseyshapiro:

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Umm... well... yeah... I was in that plane crash of the small commuter plane between Moorea and Tahiti. It was really deep water so it took a long time time for the investigators to find me.

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Did you even read your link

>is the most widely accepted proposal to identify the Proto-Indo-European homeland from which the Indo-European languages spread out throughout Europe and parts of Asia.

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I linked to Wikipedia to give you context for what I'm talking about. I'm DEFINITELY not saying to believe whatever Wikipedia says.

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>wikipedia is Fake Science!!!!

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Yeah ok let's direct the boomers to abovetopsecret and coasttocoastam :marseymeds:

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:marseysmug2: imagine still trusting wikipedia articles on any topic besides pure math and chemistry.

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:marseypony#: Horses made the patriarchy universal might be the most pseud-pilled historically illiterate take I've seen in a minute. I guess North America didn't have any patriarchy until mayos brought they horses with them too, right?


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Horses probably originated in the new world, were brought over to Asia as humans migrated from Asia, but were eaten to extinction by the humans who settled in the new world.

So humans actually defeated The Patriarchy but accidentally let it escape to the old world, just like Sauron escaping to Mordor and rebuilding his strength to conquer Middle Earth.

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I'm going to unironically "source?" you. I've never heard the new world horse origin theory. I thought we were pretty sure horses were domesticated at some vague location on the eurasian steppe.


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They were, but thr equus genus originated in NA and went extinct here around the end of the last ice age along with most other large mammals in the world

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along with most other large mammals in the world

:marseycherokee#: Gee I wonder what happened there :marseyclueless:


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  • Sphereserf3232 : wel NoAmer megfauna die out fast 1ce paleoindians show up but it took 10sof millenia in OldWorld

I know we clown on hoyas here but the same that happened everywhere else in the world :marseyshrug:

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This just proves that hoyas had a planet-spanning, advanced society before yt ppl

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Everywhere, but Africa!

Frankly I think it's a bit of a humble brag that everywhere homo sapiens spread as a species we just killed nearly everything that could be food and/or a threat. But it's probably also not great for ecology.


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I think some african megafauna died off hundreds of thousands or a million years ago when h. habilis or whoever discovered stone cowtools started spreading. But because the fauna had way longer to adapt to human presence and because the continent was actually less habitable during the ice age, they managed to persevere much longer. And yeah we dominate this planet so hard it's not even close. At this point we exterminate life without even trying

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Actually, horses were present in North America before the Mayos arrived, but the heroic Indians wiped them out (sadly, only after their evil miasma had infected the minds of those poor, once-noble savages).

When wh*toids reintroduced horses it only sealed their fate

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Lots of megafauna were present and then made extinct by the Native Americans who were obviously one with nature and never changed a thing that nature provided.


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The equine menace brought about their own demise through their emanation of violent & misogynistic ideation

Before they arrived the injuns lived in harmony with the giant sloths, saber tooth tigers, mammoths, etc

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This is the same premise that the New Age and psychedelic cult of Terrence Mckenna are based on. Wipe your mind back to the non-verbal so you can assimilate with Mother Gaia. All based on shitty anthropology from the 70s. Environmental determinism and making up stuff from the archaeological record ("look theres a Longhouse everyone was matriarchal and had no conflict ever, like my heckin Pocahontas!!") is peak midwit

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jfc orange man really buck broke his brain

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This is MAGApolis!

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Some unfortunate theater wagie :marseymcwagie: has to ask Adam driver's character a question so that they can break the 4th wall and talk directly to the audience

LMAO

Then people say directors should do more "passion" projects. Looks like it's either corporate capeshit previously designed and tested on a lab or director "artsy" slop.

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There was a brief moment in the 1980s-1990s where these two forces were almost in balance.

Example: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The first movie had gone way over budget, so the studio didn't pay a lot for this one. They got Nick Meyer, extremely artsy in a good way, on to direct and do the final draft of the script. They got Bob Sallin in as producer, a guy who had done a million commercials and knew how to actually fricking deliver a product on time on budget. So you get the best parts of Nick Meyer's imagination with him getting restrained from the excesses he gets into when he's uncontrolled. And the movie actually gets finished on time so it isn't some mess where in editing they have to try to stitch together a bunch of unrelated clips to try to have a coherent story.

That's how Hollywood should work.

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Iirc, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country was in a similar situation. The previous entry bombed hard (Kirk going to meet God, directed by Shatner lmao), so this time, Paramount kept the production on an increadibly tight leash. They even brought Nicholas Meyer back.

The result? The second-best entry in the Star Trek film series, according to many. Personally, I think it is the best.

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Personally, I think it is the best.

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Wrath of Khan is not only clearly the best, it's one of the best movies of all time period.

I was actually thinking of 6 when I said this. It's a good movie for sure (just watched it yet again yesterday) but there's a few moments where, if you've watched these as many times as I have, you can see where Nick Meyer is being too Nick Meyer. Little things like he's really into having aliens talk in alien language with subtitles. I dunno quite how to say it. Maybe it's just that I find it distracting when I'm trying to watch a movie and I keep getting reminded of who made it. You don't want to think about how the sausage is made.

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A lot of people are pooping on the acting calling it embarassing.

Also "it's satire, it's supposed to be goofy/bad" defences are already popping up.

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it's satire, it's supposed to be goofy/bad

The Hollywood version of "I was only PRETENDING to be r-slurred"

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!sophistry come and check how redditors overanalyze slop with "akshually is a super clever 150 IQ satire from a marxist POV"

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Directors need to make films they want to make while having a studio periodically hit them over the head with a bat so they don't make this.

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Megaflopolis

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What's it about roughly op,?

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Honestly absolutely nothing - it's like if you gave 40 different writers the premise for a movie and then shuffled the scripts together

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The Catiline conspiracy and Amerika is le modern day Rome

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LOL dude's only ever produced cineslop filler movies, of which Event Horizon is probably his best

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Event horizon was meh at best

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Event Horizon is the edgelordiest movie ever.

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Wrong

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I don't actually know who you're referring to, so I googled best Lionsgate movies and found this

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Every cringe thing you heard about the film is true

I haven't heard anything about this film. I had no idea it existed

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Is it wrong that I kind of wish this neighbor goes broke and loses his wine fields over this vanity project? :marseysmug2:

Tf has he done in the last 25 years anyway? This was his last truly great movie

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Hopefully his daughter still has funding though, because that Queen is an indiemaxxing darling. !kino you know it's true.

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Is it wrong that I kind of wish this neighbor goes broke and loses his wine fields over this vanity project?

Yes, we should be encouraging more mental ego projects

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:#marseysmirk2: True, but at least ego something cool like a space elevator or peepee transplants rather than some stupid movie.

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Why did someone save this :marseyquestion:

Presumably it's either @nuclearshill @Stoicpeace or @LatinxShippingCompany but why. Why does at least one r-slur save all my posts and many of my comments? What are you doing with them?

Why :#soycry:

CAPY make saves public. There's no reason not to :marseymad:

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@Aevann please, the needful

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Capy @Aevann I didn't know. Please. I'm sorry :marseybegging:

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Kill this cute twink :marseyhesfluffyyouknow:

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There's absolutely no rhyme or reason to when my posts get saved. I'll write the most brilliant yet terse history of the Kingdom of Lydia and it's not saved. Five minutes later I say "dude bussy lmao" and 5 people apparently feel this so legendary it needs to be immortalized.

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Someone just saved this comment :marseyitsallsotiresome:

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It might have been me. :marseytroublemaker:

Actually it wasn't tho, I wasn't smart enough to think of that. :marseyrain:

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My theory is people save comments in hopes of trolling a ban for ppl who ask. It is sitewide rule #1 after all

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No. 100% of my saves are fricking completely unironic, and half of them are fricking @Redactor0

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Not me I tell ya.

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:#marseysoypointglow: But I'm broke, thanks to @FukinSukinCukin :marseyitsover:

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It's not me :marseyshrug:

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it's a good investment

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Based on the reviews I've read, this movie provides the most stark and horrifying insight into the demented boomer political mind ever put to screen. Those that shrink away are cowards.

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I haven't seen it but tbh everything I hear makes me want to watch it more. I expect it to be incomprehensible and too slow yet still sort of interesting in the sense that it's an insight into the worldview of a Hollywood boomer who's completely detached from normal life.

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Apparently, the acting is really bad and that the effects look like Spy Kids 3D. It's not "weird" in the way a Lynch or a Jodorowsky movie is weird. It's just plain bad in many aspects.

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New mad max slop had shit effects too. And new Gladiator slop looks off as well.

They need to return to pre.... :marseysquint: idk? 2010 maybe. Even that Fincher God Zodiac movie from 2007 was apparently almost entirely cgi. Like the 1960s diner scene wasn't even a set, it was totally fake, but it still looks better than much of the crap today. Idk what these tards are doing. LOTR 20 years ago still looks better than much of the netflix slop today.

!kino is this true :marseypearlclutch: And why?

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LOTR actually had a crap ton of their costuming, models, and stuff made by WETA (New Zealand spergs). That's why it's aged so well.

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True, I've seen some of those. Impressive. They need to retvrn.

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:#soycry: Why

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Lots of CGI studios outsource to Jeets now.

So expect things to look like 10-15 years out of date.

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So go back to the cleeeeerhb*

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According to /tv/

Is this left wing Atlus Shrugged?

Basically yes. The central conflict is between Caesars progressive architectural vision (which I shit you not looks exactly like AI generated neo-futurist trash you can find on Google), the conventionalism of the may of the city, Cicero, and the whipped up reactionary forces of Caesar's cousin Clodio. In constructing his new city, Caesar is demolishing parts of the old one, which leaves many people homeless, and which Clodio uses to build a right wing anti progressive coalition. It's so absurdly self indulgent that Clodio's supporters have signs saying "Make Rome Great Again," and his top henchman literally has a tattoo of the Black Sun on his forehead. Zero subtlety. There are also references made to Hitler and Mussolini, and Clodio's character is implied to have been killed, strung up the same way Mussolini was. The movie also does not offer any meaningful challenge to Caesar's worldview, and throughout it simply presents the conflicting forces as regressive and simply stupid or fearfully lacking in vision. It would help if Caesar's vision was even coherent, which it isn't, because the extent of his alternate vision of the future involves a maguffin material that can essentially build anything and cure anything, and which for reasons that are literally never explained or justified, the city believes is somehow dangerous and should be stopped from being used. In any case, the maguffin material will magically allow every person in New Rome to live in perfect harmony in giant spiraling treelike structures where their every need will somehow be met, and this is all presented completely sincerely as a compelling vision of the future.

Yes I would describe it as perhaps the perfect inverse of Ayn Rand's works.

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Some unfortunate theater wagie :marseymcwagie: has to ask Adam driver's character a question so that they can break the 4th wall and talk directly to the audience.

Ok I'm sold.

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Everyone said his Dracula movie was dogshit, but it was actually very nice and pretty.

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Gonna go see this at 11:15 on a Tuesday so the short-staffed ticket ripper has to come in and say the line

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I've seen it

>The modern/ancient rome setting isn't nearly as cringeworthy as I expected, I actually think the basic premise could have worked well

>There's very little in the way of plot and it's not artistic enough to get away with it

>It doesn't really work as a "so bad it's good" movie, there's a few funny moments but you can just look it up online and get the same experience

>It feels like Coppola went through 1000 different iterations of the storyline and couldn't give up random elements from each version, rather than trying to make a kind of anthology film

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I don't really see it as a modern version of the room, more like showgirls - it will be forgotten about except for a few contrarian video essays "why megalopolis is actually Coppola's masterpiece"

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"Why showgirls is actually goonworthy"

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He's always been a hack fraud. Apocalypse Now was shit. It had a couple good scenes but you could say the same thing about Star Trek V and nobody holds up Shatner as the greatest director in history.

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>Apocalypse Now was shit

:#pointgun:

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When you don't have an ending for your movie so you get really high and pay some Filipino villagers to chop up a pig in a dramatic fashion, that's not genius. That's called "being a fricking r-slur".

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He didn't pay them. They were just chopping the cow anyway and he filmed them. The entire end of the movie had no one follow the script and he just filmed whatever was happening.

But the various directors and final cuts prove that the film was good in spite of FFC, the french plantation scene he insists on inserting is uniformly awful.

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I definitely believe this very believable man.

he just filmed whatever was happening

Yet somehow he never filmed Brando's fat butt. :marseyhmm: He was absolutely corpulent at this point and the best thing Coppola does in the movie is to hide how fricking fat the guy is.

Another hack fraud. The two of them got together to make a movie because they knew a few movie critics in New York would fawn over anything they did. Every newspaper in the country would reprint it. I don't know if you kids understand, but that's how the world worked back then. You didn't have social media to say that NuTrek is shit and Kathleen Kennedy is a moron.

And that scene in On the Waterfront that we're all supposed to cream ourselves over: Great script. Great acting by the other guy. Brando is horrible. I'm not even an actor and I could fricking do this better myself if you threw me the script and gave me 15 minutes.

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1. It was a cow you insensitive racist. Try respecting indigenous ways of knowing and being.

2. The ending summarized the ultimate pointlessness, futility, and wasted sacrifice of the journey, and by proxy, the war.

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Unironically tho, it's probably his best movie because he was surrounded by people who where legitimately passionate about the project and were willing to suffer for their art, rather than his other films where he was surrounded by yes men who wanted his name to boost their careers.

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Tards like to go on and on about how brilliant it is, but they never say what they're comparing it to. John Woo's Bullet in the Head is deeply flawed and one of his worst movies and it's still a way better movie about the Vietnam War.

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Every cringe thing you heard about the film is true as well.

Ive heard literally nothing about that movie, so give me a quick rundown

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Didn't he (Coppola) also help bankroll Victor Salva's career? Even after he was outed as a diddler?

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He was an executive producer on the Jeepers Creepers movies, and I think he helped financially with Clownhouse (the movie Salva did starring his victim, which ultimately led to the conviction). He also was very much aware of Salva's prison experience, since he kept in touch throughout.

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How has this bum not had a decent idea in 40 years and still not gotten a clue. Never mind that like 90% of his notable output was adaptations

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None of us have ever actually given two shits about FDA approval, we only brought it up because, in your state of mind trusting government authority, it should have been important to you.

It's like you all believing in Santa, and we're trying to tell you he's not real, you can know because you never see him. Now one Christmas eve, you're 40 years old, and come up to peek and see, just in case, Santa might be real. And there he is! He's real! You flock to /r/conspiracy, to tell us we were wrong, but it was your wife's boyfriend all along!

Snapshots:

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