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On Hack Writers

We all know about hack writers. Their work is of poor quality and some are quite prolific. But hack writer =/= writer I don’t like. What are some hacks you enjoy and which one’s you can’t stand?

My favorite hack is Dan Brown, his Robert Langdon series are a guilty pleasure of mine (though Origins was too terrible with the recycled plot). Langdon is a Mary Sue and his plots are so over the top I can’t take seriously while also being a page turner.

One I can’t stand is Paulo Coelho, who is unfortunately Brazil’s most famous writer abroad. So pretentious, and some people take it way too seriously, the alchemist reads like an YA novel. Another one is Reddit’s darling Neil Gaiman.

Let’s discuss the best and worst among the Terrible and Untalented

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George Martin for writing himself into a corner suffused with erotic descriptions of food and a 14 year old girl pooping herself with dysentery.

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Is ASOIAF worth reading? I can’t fathom reading thousands of pages of a story that will probably have no ending

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It’s a rollercoaster. Like reading a nonstop action movie. I’m not saying it’s my favorite series ever but it’s engaging. It’s a series that’s easy for me to keep reading once I start since there aren’t long periods of slow parts. They skip the slow parts and get right back to the action in most cases. Perfect series for todays adhd youth who aren’t going to get into something wordy like Tolkien or Robert Jordan


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It's wildly entertaining through the first three books, then starts meandering pointlessly after that. I fear he's suffering from some sort of cognitive decline and the series will.nevet be finished.

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It worked out fine for the wheel of time series. Hopefully the mother fricker actually has ideas and notes on the book before he dies. I just imagine a notebook with writing on one page, “frick they didn’t like what I told HBO I was going to do, please think of something better”


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I dont think the end point of the show are necessarily bad, its more how they got there and how lazy it felt.

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It did feel lazy, but all the books are sorta lazy. There wasn’t an effort to make extensive lore or provide a fully fleshed out world, there was really only effort to advance the plot. It would have been out of character to spend the time to flesh out the details to make the ending more satisfying but that might require long boring explanations that don’t advance the plot and only act as exposition. You can’t just go kill someone or do something out of an action movie to get to the end either. I enjoy the books and I didn’t mind the shows ending, but it was a different style of fantasy than I am used to. Lack of plot armor was so refreshing though.


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I moreso meant that it was lazy as in it just feels like they didnt even care, and knew people would watch regardless and put any effort they did make into action instead of making the plot make any sense whatsoever. It started to decline in season 5 but 7 and 8 are a different type of bad to me. For example the entire Arya/Sansa feud in season 7 is complete nonsense and doesnt make sense in its resolution either. Just poorly written all around.

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Daenerys whole arc was butchered as well. She was always ruthless, but that is not synonymous with mad, Stannis too was ruthless, he also burned his own daughter as well as his brother in law and others yet no one called him mad for that.

On season 7 finale she risked her life to save Jon from a convoluted mess of a subplot (capturing a wight to convince Cersei, so stupid). On season 8 episode 3 she risks her life again and fights the WW. Then she just snaps and burns King Landing.

Daenerys going mad or becoming evil is a great idea but they should have explored that for a few seasons and slowly build on that, instead it was all rushed

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Agreed, i always thought she would end up being the "villain", i think its a bit more obvious if you have read the books as well, but her heel turn was completely non-sensical and extremely rushed. The way i always thought of it happening was her going "mad" from the perspective of the people of Westeros, but for reasons that make sense from her point of view. There are a few plot points from the books that would have made it make more sense as well.

But yeah that season 7 capture the wight plot was ridiculously stupid and it actually has almost no bearing on the plot at all. The only reason i can think of for it is giving the white walkers their dragon, and i guess finally spurring Jaime to leave Cersei (then he just goes back lmao). Both of which could have been achieved without so much bullshit.

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Supposedly he is more than 2/3 done with the book, but he doesn’t seem bery reliable with deadlines. I would consider buying his books if “the winds of winter” gets published next year, if he’s 75 he might live till 85 and finish it, beyond that it gets complicated with

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The Winds of Winter is the second to last book if you were not already aware, so while i do think it will come out im not sure A Dream of Spring ever will. Either way though, TWoW is going to have a lot of shit going down I would think so just that will be interesting enough to make it worth reading.

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I did enjoy it but someparts of the series are lopsided. The ""medieval"" setting is quite shallow with the only titles in Westeros are Lord, Lord Paramount and King with some great plots throughout the first 3 books imo. It kinda falls apart in book 4 tho. Book 4 has Jaime Lannisters best scenes along with the Greyjoys having some surprisingly cool characters like Damphair and Victarion but the Brienne, Arya and Daenerys chapters are a SLOG to get thru. Almost gave up at some points.

My opinion would be read the first 3 books and if you REALLY like it then keep reading, otherwise just save yourself the frustration of Martin missing his 7th fricking deadline at this point.

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