To discuss plays of ancient Greece. I’m a complete ignorant on the subject. I only watched a video about Aristophanes and that he mocked Socrates by portraying him as a Sophist in “The Clouds” and that Socrates felt super embarrassed as per Plato on his trial (supposedly he said the laughter at the theater was way harder to confront than any of the accusations on his trial), and that sounds very based to me.
Who were the best playwrights and their best plays?
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Okay like not to dunk on ppl with shit educations but like I need to explain something. The playwrights did NOT come up with the plays. They just dramatized them for Greek audiences. These were existing stories and could have multiple versions.
Additional recommendations: the Lysistrata (OG women s*x protest but not a huge Aristophanes fan tbh) and the oresteia.
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That is not surprising, Shakespeare did the same, he took Hamlet story from the danish Amleth, but he still changed the stories and shaped the characters in original ways. But I wonder if there were different versions made by the same playwright. With Shakespeare, there are some differences between the first, second quartos and the first folio.
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Shakespeare was actually Francis Bacon
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The whole “Shakespeare wasn’t a real person” is a such a weird conspiracy theory
, like what’s even the point of inventing him if some other like Bacon wrote the plays? Is not like a pen name, the bard has an entire biography.
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Its a somewhat well established theory not a total crackpot conspiracy but who knows, I'm sure mainstream academics reject it because anything that is a little outside the box must be rejexted
As for the motivation I think Bacon was a lord or some other high up political figure and actors and playwrights were considered the scum of the Earth back in those days
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Not a crackpot theory true, but still a fringe one. Is mostly based of Shakespeare’s background as a commoner. But for me the best argument against it are the quartos and Folios, and the fact that the plays were attributed to him in the 17th century. Very different from Homer, whom we know absolutely nothing besides textual attribution and references made hundreds pf years after his supposed death.
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Yea I guess what difference does it make anyway
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None, Shakespeare or not those plays are and will always be awesome. That’s something we can all agree
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Euripedes wrote Medea which is an epic Girlboss tale and a stark reminder not hook up with chicks you met on vacation.
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I actually literally took a class on Medea and we read various versions of it. Hide yo kids.
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Sophocles duh
Edit: philoctetes if u hate ppl
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i’m not well versed in Greek tragedies but i really liked Antigone when i saw it performed.
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I guess in the spirit of another thread that came up here recently, Sophocles was the mind behind Oedipus Rex and is among the most recognizable, wouldn't know if necessarily the best
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_Rex
Looks like the greek Hamlet, I mean in terms of popularity, not necessarily because of the plot. And also super depressing
, definitely should check it out one day.
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I get routinely mocked in public for wearing a mask. (fake-liberal bastion of Austin, TX). If I weren't a tall, large man, it would likely be much worse.
Had a woman mutter the f-word at me under her breath in passing, for wearing one just the other day, as I was walking out of an HEB. No, not frick. The other f-word. The homosexual slur. Said that shit at just the right moment when I was just outside the store, rolling groceries to my vehicle, and unable to react in time. It's just one example, I have many stories.
I am boosted with the good stuff. I just don't want to get COVID and nobody around me is masking up, even after COVID exposure reports. A friend of mine got COVID back in March of this year, and their sense of smell and taste still has not returned. It has dramatically harmed their quality of life, and they're not sure for how long. Could be forever.
I don't know how to not be targeted for abuse by....other Texans, and still stay safe right now.
Maybe another spike would give my safe behaviors more cover, because there would be more people masking up then? I don't know. I know it's a strange way to think about it, but I'm at my wit's end as far as what to do.
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