Rdrama Bookclub Discussion Thread #2 :marseyreading:. “The Master and Margarita” Chap. 8-17

So we finally met “The Master”, Ivan Nikolayevich finally knows who Woland is and what happened to Yeshua despite being still unaware no one besides The Master believes him, among many other things. I hope you guys are enjoying it.

Next week we’ll discuss chapters 18-24.

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Hand over your foreign drama coin, citizens. You can't even use it to buy awards.

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@Red_Shill honestly wasn’t sure what too make of that chapter. Isn’t he indeed innocent? At least as far as they were accusing him. Trans lives matter

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Woland is fricking with his mind, he’s innocent of taking foreign currency, but he admitted taking bribes and being a crook.

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@Red_Shill don’t think he would simply be fricking with his mind, he is either guilty of more than we know or @Red_Shill would think it has more significance later on.

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Maybe he accepted a bribe with foreign currency in the past :marseyhmmm:

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Maybe a foreign “currency” of some other kind? Idk, or he is innocent and you are correct that it was just Woland fricking with him. that chapter felt a bit out of place imo.

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I don't think it's supposed to be too complicated. I think the joke is he got away with stealing thousands of his fellow citizens' money, only to be punished for having a few hundred foreign dollars.

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Maybe it was @Red_Shill's translation but there wasn’t any emphasis put on him stealing money until he admitted later that everypony in the committee did it. Idk, that chapter just felt weirdly out of place and sympathetic too the Soviet systems the novel has so far been lampooning imo.

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Really? He admitted being a crook and he said every housing director did the same as him. He only claimed being innocent of taking the 400 dollars the police found with him. Are you using the Ginsburg translation?

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@Red_Shill don’t know. @Red_Shill's irl copy was the Burgin/O’Connor translation and @Red_Shill took care too buy that one on kindle, but @Red_Shill think @Red_Shill may have gotten it wrong as “rubles” is spelled “roubles” in this copy. @Red_Shill also saw you spelled Stragot with one G. He is just called Cute twink in this one, lol. There is no indication within the ebook of who this translation is by. There just wasn’t much emphasis of him being corrupt other than a passing comment too the police when he was arrested, that they were all corrupt. His internal dialogue while speaking too Korniev (almost certainly spelled this wrong, going off memory and I’m shit with Russian names) didn’t really place him as a corrupt or guilty man imo.

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Lmao, Cute twink instead of Stragot.

I’m reading the O’Connor translation and he says “I took bribes yes, but always in our soviet rubles, not foreign currency!”. If it is the Ginsburg translation then is the censored version.

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The chapter is based on real-life mass interrogations to find foreign currency.

From the commentary:

this dream is apparently based in reality. One of Bulgakov's good friends was caught in a random round-up in the early 1930s meant to root out those who had hidden gold or jewels. Typically, a large group would be kept in a room, given something salty to eat and then denied water or bathroom. Very quickly confessions of hidden valuables would be coaxed out of them. Of course, arrest and imprisonment were the lot of some of the unlucky people caught up in these dragnets.

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@Red_Shill thought so reading it but it was all a bit straightforward, the liars were portrayed as liars and there wasn’t a hint of irony in any of it. It seemed very sympathetic.

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Stop lying, you have 400 reddit karma on your pocket. The jannies have been noticed.

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