Ayn Rand love/hate Dicusssion Thread :marseyaynrand2::marseyatlasshrugged:

Alisa Zinovyevna Rosenbaum, pen name Ayn Rand, was a Russian born American author. She's been quite influential in the american lolbertarian movement and is kind of a Patron Saint for many rightoids. And is not only limited to the US, I've seen many Ayn Rand books in sale in Brazilian Bookstores, they have translations of all of her works from Atlas Shrugged to her essays like “The Virtue of Selfishness”.

Rand was never considered a good writer, dramacels, what do you guys think of this lady?

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I loved simping for her on reddit because it made people mad, but in reality I have no idea what her ideology is and never read her books. I think it is libertarian-adjacent or something like that? The books have very pretty covers though

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The Fountainhead is about a stubborn architect in the 1920s who wants to design modern art deco buildings. The firm makes him design a classical façade (which he hates) and he blows up the building, at least that's what I remember.

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He's made to do it because the the client (you know, the guy who's paying for and will own the building) wants it that way. This makes him a reactionary chud who the vanguard of good taste, our hero roark, is free to ignore somehow.

And people call this c*nt an arch capitalist lmao. She's a typical Russian member of the intelligentsia who thinks they know best and the nekulturny clods need to just shut up and consoom kulture.

:#marseyrussiadolls:

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Which is why I always thought Roark was an unlikable protagonist. He's a stubborn loser and a domestic terrorist. He later claims the building was his by right because he designed it lmao. I still don't understand what Rand wanted to convey, plus that r*pey scene with Dominique.

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My main critique is modernism is overrated and he's like ISIS for modernist architecture.

I like some gaudy old buildings which aren't perfectly minimalist

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It's been a while but I think Roark was fired and they attached an ugly facade to his building after he had left the project.

His argument & justification for blowing it up makes no sense legally because the building never belonged to him according to conventional property law, but Rand's point was, apparently, that the building did belong to him and always would, because he created it? I guess?

Which is interesting, because everyone acts like Rand is a reactionary who's just defending the status quo, but really she's calling for the creation of a whole new layer of morality on top of conventional morality. That's a radical idea, but of course, "radicals" want nothing to do with her.

The book is basically fine. I like it. The movie is a painful watch because the "brave modern architecture" that Roark creates is incredibly ugly looking. In real life, I don't think that style of architecture was ever popular before 1950 or after 1970, and meanwhile, the "classical" look with columns and shit still looks acceptable today.

I mean I'd rather live in a house that looks like the Supreme Court than some brutalist cuboid. Sorry, Ayn. Stick to jilling off over nazi supermen and cheating on your husband.

In conclusion, I think Reddit should be destroyed.

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That's also the point of Atlas Shrugged, isn't it? Society is trying to interfere in the enjoyable activity of creative production, so we must buck society.

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Your pulitzer's in the mail

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Ted K but if he was an architect in the 1920s

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The architect in The Fountainhead is the modernist, tho.

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He designs a regular tower for the successful friend who isn't actually skilled on the condition it's built exactly like his design, the committee changes it and his friend can't stop it so he blows up the place. His speech in court was amazing.

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Sooooo basically the opposite of modern rightoids

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