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:marseylongpost: /r/writing:"Would it be morally wrong for a character who is of an older mental age to have sexual relations with a teenager?" :marseypedo:

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Hello, I am currently writing a story focused on reincarnation. My main characters have the ability to be reincarnated with their memories intact as babies and then continue to develop normally (meaning they go from childhood to adolescence and so on). :marseyshiva:

What happens is that in one of the reincarnations they reach the current time (2000-2023) and one of them mentions that in high school he had many relationships with girls from 16 onwards, since he is technically older mentally (although physically he is still 16 years old) I wouldn't know if this is morally wrong. :marseypedo:

I mentioned it to my best friend and she told me that it could be something "creepy", I didn't have a problem at first, as a woman I didn't see anything wrong with it, but now that I think about it again I have my doubts. What do you think?

Look, I may be an 800 year old reincarnating demigod who retains the memories of every life, but I can still go to high school and smash teenage kitty with the best of them. :marseyindignant:

as a woman :marseyfoidretard:

That's right, I'm a WOMAN. What now chuds?


That's just Mushoku Tensei debate brought into r/writing lol :marseyweeb:

Good, because I hate that Anime for those reasons. :marseyweebgenocide:

So you hate this anime for those reasons but then write something similar yourself and ask people if it's wrong? I think you have an answer to your question already but for some reason don't want to admit it. :marseyconfused:


'm 54 years old. Would it wrong of me to have s*x with a 16yo? Heck yeah, it would. What if I could disguise myself so I looked 16? Would it be okay then? Heck no, it wouldn't. Nor would it be okay if I were an 80 of 160 or 250 year old vampire, or a 10,000 year old immortal.

It doesn't matter what you look like. If you're an adult, you don't have s*x with children. That's my morality. :marseypedosnipe:

100% it's creepy. We need to stop validating creepy scenarios and trying to justify why someone immortal/OLD can have s*x with a TEENAGER.

Okay but in this made-up fantasy scenario I created myself, can't you agree that there's some nuance to fricking 16 year olds? :marseybigbrain:

:marseyvampire: If anything vampires would hate being around teens. Except the really perverted ones like the type of wants to write. I feel edward would have much enjoyed the company of an 80 year old who is tired of life and doesn't take life seriously anymore. Sorta like what we do in the shadows

Ok I do want to see a Twilight remake where Edward's a nursing home orderly :marseykino:


you need to have your own thoughts on this fully formulated before you write it so you can reflect these questions in the narrative effectively. no one can tell you what you should think. It isnt even a real situation, so there cannot be a right answer. Your character is also under no obligation to behave morally, and 16yos often dont. :derpthumbsup:

Morality doesn't exist in hypothetical situations. That's why my solution to the trolley problem involves r*pe.

i think the bigger question here is how does retaining past life memories affect a 16yo? If you're 100 and you suddenly become 1 again what does that do to you? If you are 1 with memories of being 100 do you understand them yet? Is a 100yo interested in a 16yo romantically? why? You need to understand your character well enough to understand why he is having these relationships in high school before you can decide if his motivation and thought process in having them is moral.

This sounds like it would require thinking. Unfortunately, I'm an /r/writing user. :marseyretardchad:


IMO this kind of thing really depends on the reader's intended perspective and the purpose of the story. I don't think Twilight is creepy because it's a fantasy for the teenage girl audience. Many romance fantasy scenarios would be messed up if they happened in real life. Now If Twilight were a fantasy for an adult male audience it would read differently. :marseypedo:

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not surprised it was written by a woman tbh. inb4 all you neighbors start accusing her of being a train.

there is humor to the idea that a moid could live multiple lifetimes yet still go out of his way to screw high school chicks.

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You made me do 2 minutes of work to investigate.

OP explicitly claimed to be a man as recently as 4 months ago:

Doesn't seem like a train. Either they made this thread to stir shit, lied about their gender to get a "fair" answer, or else some weird esoteric conspiracy is afoot that I won't try to figure out because I have to go make dinner.

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Also not all of us like one night stands, some of us want a date, a conversation

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tbh he sounds like a fruity strag. i might retract my statement about their trainhood.

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Cool it with the toxic masculinity

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What's for dinner :marseyshy:

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:taco:

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:#marseylickinglips:

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Either they made this thread :marseystitch: to stir shit

There's still hope in him.

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  • poster on reddit

  • writing a shitty isekai fanfiction

  • horny for teenage girls

yeah sure definitely a real woman right here

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>have moral dilemma

>ask for advice on how to make it black and white instead of treating it also like a morally grey action people debate about in the universe of your story

Over before it even began.

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For real, just write something controversial, true artists are provocateurs by nature.

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"Is this a bad thing" man I don't know what do your characters think??

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:marseybestfriends#:

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"Would it be wrong if...", shut the frick up you spineless non-committal cute twink. Either write or don't, but don't ask Reddit for approval. If you're going to be a sicko then at least own it. FRICK.

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But you see the character is the good guy and that means I have to write them as the physical manifestation of everything redditors consider good if he has even one flaw the readers will cancel him

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This but unironically. The OP is writing for an audience of insufferable grievance mongers, so minimising cancelability is the top priority.

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I want to read the twilight reboot where Edward is exhausted with life and hates being around the kids and snaps Bella's neck for annoying him with teenage white girl banality :marseybegging:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17235685217415228.webp

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I thought it would be some shitty Lolita plagiarism but…

What happens is that in one of the reincarnations they reach the current time (2000-2023) and one of them mentions that in high school he had many relationships with girls from 16 onwards, since he is technically older mentally (although physically he is still 16 years old) I wouldn't know if this is morally wrong.

That would require /r/writing to read something which is not YA or capeshit tier fan-fiction

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Yeah, that's anime and full of :marseypedo:.

"I'm a 40-year-old man who's been magically teleported to a fantasy land as a teenager, and oh no there's all these young girls I must creep on."

Many such isekai's.

!anime, you've seen this before.

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The entire genre is the concept of giving neets a second chance to live out their youth, lol.

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and oh no there's all these young girls I must creep on.

lmao that's too much work

usually it's just "there's all these young girls throwing themselves at me"

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I confess that I do not partake in any anime that has "Harem" in its genre.

:marseykneel:

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Only the Japanese could make harems uncool.

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You're missing out

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I don't understand how people can stand shit like Mushoku Tensei. 30+ episodes of a dude being fawned over by three :marseywomanmoment2:

This is why you don't read isekai featuring moids :marseyno: and instead go for the 2000 iterations of "reborn as the villainess" :marseyhugretard:

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Weak cute twink incel isekaijin never commit to well-intentioned world domination. It's always pathetic and aimless.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16963869896554868.webp

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Yeah, "fu-fu" this, b-word.

:marseyleaf: :#marseymini:

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that looks awful I hate it

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:!marseysickos2::marseysickos2::!marseysickos2::!marseysickos2::marseysickos2::!marseysickos2:

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These are the questions that so called "writers" consider instead of coming up with a story that youd actually want to read

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I have an idea for a tv show where all the characters frok Jimmy Neutron are cryogenically frozen for 20 years and then revived. That means a lot of the stories I wrote about the character are ok because everyone is legally in their 30s. This would get mentioned at the beginning of every episode.

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Jimmy Neutron gets canceled for saying trans women aren't female and saying their are only two sexes.

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The CGI and voice acting on that show is so low tier, it's probably an easy mark for AI recreations.

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:marseyprotestno:

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It's coming for everything you can possibly remember. Get ready for chud and soy rewrites and continuations of every piece of media ever made, cartoons first.

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no :marseysulk:

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Yikes, no, that's not what i had in mind. No matter how many taboos the show tackles, unironic transphobia is not one of them.

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If she still has eggs, she's too young too s*x.

#Fightfor35

Plus, everyone except incels knows 36 year-olds are more beautiful than 16 year-olds anyway, and their maturity and experiences only make them more attractive :marseyindignantwoman:

Post-wall foid and trans lives matter.

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In a realistic story, the protagonist would be attracted to the idea and then look at who this girl actually is and realize he really doesn't want to.

Rdrama debaters: is it morally wrong for teenagers to have s*x with teenagers? Why or why not? People love to talk about this but rarely seem to state their premises about what makes s*x moral at all.

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If we're taking it seriously.

Assuming they're physically 16 they still have an undeveloped 16 year old moid brain hormones and all which would probably excuse it imo

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Isn't it interesting that so many of these teenage love stories are written by sweaty scrotes of adult age?

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They're probably not much worse than teenage love stories written by teenagers.

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Assuming they're physically 16 they still have an undeveloped 16 year old moid brain hormones and all which would probably excuse it imo

Reincarnation doesn't allow for normal human physiology based on the premise itself. You're born with fully formed neural connections if you have all the memories and attitude/temperment of your previous life.

In practice, almost all of these stories involve adults making decisions and behave as if they were their previous adult selves just in a child body. Look at the isekai being mentioned ITT(Mushoku Tensei), here MC feels sexual attraction as an infant.

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Sure, but you only need an excuse for things that are wrong. Redditors are loathe to admit that s*x is not 100% good if you have muh informed consent.

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Strangely they seem to believe that 25 year old women can't consent to 40+ year old men.

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informed consent

thats more when Dr. Gupta says he's going to remove a kidney to rebalance your chakras.

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/r/antisex is the answer

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Every post like this could be answered "it's your story and universe, figure it the frick out"

So many ways you could make this be super creepy or actually kind of work but reddit won't help

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>I don't think Twilight is creepy because it's a fantasy for the teenage girl audience.

Pretty much this. Idk what these animes are that have a 10,000 year old spirit having a relationship with a highschool teen, but I'm pretty sure that's targeted to the teenagers watching the show. (wait come to think of it, I guess Bleach does kinda have this doesn't it?)

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Sounds like liberals trying to justify pedophilia.

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"liberals"

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"Wop plays nintendo to talk to kids."

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>Nor would it be okay if I were an 80 of 160 or 250 year old vampire, or a 10,000 year old immortal.

This begs the question: does a 10,000 year old immortal command the same level (or more) of an inherent power imbalance in a relationship with, say, a 50-year-old human as a 25-year-old with a 16-year-old? I'd argue they do. But if there aren't any other immortals around, is it just immoral for them to have s*x with anyone?

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The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August did it better without p-do :marseypedo: reddit :marseysoylentgrin: shit.

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That's just Mushoku Tensei debate brought into r/writing lol:

Good, because I hate that Anime for those reasons.:

So you hate this anime for those reasons but then write something similar yourself and ask people if it's wrong? I think you have an answer to your question already but for some reason don't want to admit it.:

'm 54 years old. Would it wrong of me to have s*x with a 16yo? Heck yeah, it would. What if I could disguise myself so I looked 16? Would it be okay then? Heck no, it wouldn't. Nor would it be okay if I were an 80 of 160 or 250 year old vampire, or a 10,000 year old immortal.:

100% it's creepy. We need to stop validating creepy scenarios and trying to justify why someone immortal/OLD can have s*x with a TEENAGER.:

If anything vampires would hate being around teens. Except the really perverted ones like the type of wants to write. I feel edward would have much enjoyed the company of an 80 year old who is tired of life and doesn't take life seriously anymore. Sorta like what we do in the shadows:

/r/writing:

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