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slop >>>>> than any fictional literature written by the hands of any woman on this planet younger than 50 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/may/16/how-women-conquered-the-world-of-fiction
"Hannah Westland, publisher of the literary imprint Serpent's Tail, says she's not always confident that there's a market for fiction written by young men. "If a really good novel by a male writer lands on my desk, I do genuinely say to myself, this will be more difficult to publish." She believes that the "paths to success" are narrower because there are fewer prizes open to men, fewer magazines that will cover male authors, and fewer media figures willing to champion them – in the way that, for example, Dolly Alderton and Pandora Sykes have championed female authors on their podcasts."
i challenge even one dramafoid to name a single good compelling male character written by a woman 30 and younger, written within the timespan of 1995-2024
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Men still buy literary fiction. It has been purposely curated so a whole generation of straight white men have been spitefully blocked from being able to succeed.
It isn't based on making money it is just cultural curation by mostly liberal white women who want only themselves, minorities and LGBT people to be celebrated as literary geniuses.
The only millennial literary celebrity being Sally Rooney is the end result of them doing this. None of the stuff that gets awards or pushed anymore is good because it's just the authors identity they care about.
I have tried to read some of the shit getting literary awards now with an open mind and it is all so bad and nobody actually could enjoy it. They killed the whole industry to ensure the people they like get awards.
When they talk about only women buying fiction it isn't high brow shit they are buying it is romance and young adult slop.
They just use it as a defence of to explain them deliberately excluding a whole generation of men from the high brow artsy scene.
A mid thirties white straight masculine guy getting a cult following and success would give the ladies in Brooklyn who run the industry and anxiety attack
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Foids take over and the industry turns into celebrities writing children's books, woah
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Literally who?
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foidslop writer from potato BIPOC island who writes about how sad it is to live as a potato eater
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Oh, come on, there's plenty more to her than that. It's about how sad it is to be a woman and how much women like to be beaten up during s*x.
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She writes good prose but that is about it.
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She had a whole HBO show based on one of her books. She really is probably the best known literary millennial even if she is not that great.
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Pierce Brown's Red Rising sorta fits, he's 36. Unfortunately does have smatterings of stragshit throughout the series. Not too much to offset the killer masculine action and plot for me though, and I am a megachud.
Where could I even go to find out about recently self-published nonstrag scifi books? /r/printSF isn't going to promote them, they'll just bleat about the latest Hugo slop actually being really good guys!!!
/lit/'s /sffg/ doesn't ever seem to talk about any self-published stuff, which could mean they also don't know where to look.
I haven't really cared about this because I have a massive reading list of older books.
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That's the ticket. I read mostly older lit, SF, horror, crime. I've tried to read some of the modern SF yearly best-ofs and jesus h christ they're awful now.
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Morning Star is actually one of my favorite Sci-Fi books.
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Men nowadays buy Nipponese slave harem isekai slop or Western litrpg I honestly don't know which one is worse
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I really enjoy fantasy and horror but you can see when current year happened in every modern series. In 2015 every male author started including woke themes and even swapped to female main characters. Every character started revealing hidden trauma trauma they had and every foid character will just deadpan repeat internet foid complaints because women are unironically so dumb that you have to say their talking points word for word to get their support.
A series i was reading went from a middle management IT beurocrat dealing with eldritch horrors to his wife whose super power is actually turning invisible because as a 40 year old woman she is invisible to society. No I'm not giving commentary, she flat out says that exact line because most people are too dumb tounderstand symbolism. Also a super jacked cop proceeds to seduce every woman the old main character loves.
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Is the cop Black?
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No he's white and British but very forward thinking and modern. Has an advanced degree in psych but is jacked and very anti bad police.
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Stross was never good at understanding people unlike him
At least Trump didn't completely break him like 9/11 did to Dan Simmons and Frank Miller
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Let's be real, the publishing industry (including the award/review scene that exists to fluff it) is stagnant because it's obsolete. Getting your writing in front of eyeballs has never been easier and doesn't require a publisher.
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!bookworms does anyone who's ever bought a self-published book think publishers are obsolete?
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yes
I've read absolute garbage fires that were published by major companies and glittering gemeralds that were self-published. Publishers will guarantee good spelling/grammar/etc but that just makes it take longer to realize that you're wasting your time
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Good point tho in the sense that with self-published trash u immediately realize it's trash when it sounds like the average rdrama eslcel
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Publishers are obsolete in most cases. You can make more from a Patreon, and putting you eBooks on Amazon, then most acclaimed and published writers actually make from sales royalties. The main attraction of publishing now is the possibility of TV or movie deals, which is of course much more lucrative; but if you just want to write books, or don't expect to get a deal, then Patreon and Amazon will net you a much more stable income. You would be surprised by how many low level fantasy authors make 5-10,000 a month from Patreon income alone.
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I'm only interested in the consumer side
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On the consumer side I think the quality difference in prints are roughly the same between self published and commercially published, at least for smaller authors. The main difference is in cover art and editing quality and that's subjective.
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Don't you talk about Black Future like that
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Exceptions.
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This is always wingcuck nonsense.
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Is infinite jest a generation ago
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