I know some of you kids think this is just ancient history. Or that we were overwriting the pixels of little brown babies. If you weren't there, you will never know what it was like. You will never understand the sacrifices we made.
We at TumblrInAction fought an earlier battle with Chtorr. She came into modmail pretending there'd been an "uptick" in chuddery that the gigajannies had needed to get involved in, we demonstrated that if anything they'd been intervening less lately. She'd run away and come back a few months later with some other bullshit. The message between the lines was basically "we don't want to say it explicitly, but you can't allow people to criticise trains on your sub". We made it clear that our rules weren't going to be "this sub is for bad social media takes, unless the OP is transgender".
After a couple of years of that she gave up trying and just banned the sub out of the blue without warning. Kinda proud of that.
The message between the lines was basically "we don't want to say it explicitly, but you can't allow people to criticise trains on your sub".
I wasn't a mod, so I'm just inferring this from a few posts our jannies made, but I think that's basically what happened to /r/drama too. I don't remember us being that edgy about race or anything. But people were allowed to discuss trans issues by our (way disproportionately trans) mods. The admins didn't want to hire somebody to interpret our autismospeak and they couldn't let us run wild out of fear somebody might get deadnamed.
We did predict the whole thing years in advance. The "promoting hate" policy was introduced as something aimed at people trying to encourage Redditors to burn buildings and shit, but quickly degenerated into "posts that make a train look bad = promoting hate = forbidden". It was shameless, but they didn't want to be explicit since the policy was only ever applied when convenient. To this day calling for the murder of rightoids is fair game.
This was all at around the same time as they'd hired a trans libertarian as an admin, so make of that as you will.
They had the problem that the "Anti-Evil Operations" were kids in India they didn't trust to completely understand English. So every sub where jokes are made, you've got to include "/s" or '/uj". Otherwise Vikram can't explain it to his boss.
Yeah, anti-evil was useless by design. It was there to supposedly handle reports with plausible deniability. The outsourced staff had no real powwr. The admins themselves (read:Chtorr) were the ones calling the real shots in backroom chats with the "mod council". Interestingly they purportedly created that group to represent a "broad consensus" of jannies, but it somehow got stacked with powerjannies from AgainstHateSubreddits. It basically became a rubber stamp for policies progressively shutting down all dissent on the site.
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We at TumblrInAction fought an earlier battle with Chtorr. She came into modmail pretending there'd been an "uptick" in chuddery that the gigajannies had needed to get involved in, we demonstrated that if anything they'd been intervening less lately. She'd run away and come back a few months later with some other bullshit. The message between the lines was basically "we don't want to say it explicitly, but you can't allow people to criticise trains on your sub". We made it clear that our rules weren't going to be "this sub is for bad social media takes, unless the OP is transgender".
After a couple of years of that she gave up trying and just banned the sub out of the blue without warning. Kinda proud of that.
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I wasn't a mod, so I'm just inferring this from a few posts our jannies made, but I think that's basically what happened to /r/drama too. I don't remember us being that edgy about race or anything. But people were allowed to discuss trans issues by our (way disproportionately trans) mods. The admins didn't want to hire somebody to interpret our autismospeak and they couldn't let us run wild out of fear somebody might get deadnamed.
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We did predict the whole thing years in advance. The "promoting hate" policy was introduced as something aimed at people trying to encourage Redditors to burn buildings and shit, but quickly degenerated into "posts that make a train look bad = promoting hate = forbidden". It was shameless, but they didn't want to be explicit since the policy was only ever applied when convenient. To this day calling for the murder of rightoids is fair game.
This was all at around the same time as they'd hired a trans libertarian as an admin, so make of that as you will.
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They had the problem that the "Anti-Evil Operations" were kids in India they didn't trust to completely understand English. So every sub where jokes are made, you've got to include "/s" or '/uj". Otherwise Vikram can't explain it to his boss.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yeah, anti-evil was useless by design. It was there to supposedly handle reports with plausible deniability. The outsourced staff had no real powwr. The admins themselves (read:Chtorr) were the ones calling the real shots in backroom chats with the "mod council". Interestingly they purportedly created that group to represent a "broad consensus" of jannies, but it somehow got stacked with powerjannies from AgainstHateSubreddits. It basically became a rubber stamp for policies progressively shutting down all dissent on the site.
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