Yeah, I'm not gonna make any arguments for "Patterns of Force". It was clearly just an excuse to use costumes they had in the prop closet.
I'm not joking at all about this. Some things when making a TV show are surprisingly expensive. Like the costumes because if you're doing the 1960s hot alien chick thing she looks great but the clothes have to be custom made and stuff. And then her stand-in (same height, hair color, skin color) needs to to physically stand there while the lighting guys do their work...
So there's extreme pressure to do a "bottle show" (a show that takes place entirely on the ship so no sets need to be constructed). And if we rob the prop closet we save even more. Note that on TOS they kept running into aliens who were like ancient Romans. Incredibly convenient that they happened to have costumes and props for thousands of people.
Wait do you mean Voyager or TOS? Voyager was tongue-in-cheek, acknowledging that they're not trying to deal with serious issues (except for that 10% when they do and they're good. When I learned what they were trying to do, that's when I started to love it.
As for TOS, I looked this up and apparently it was an idea of John Meredyth Lucas. (He ran the show during the second half of season 2.) Which I find kind of baffling because Voyager actually has way more to say about the war.
Those were the last years when you could just call up the people in it and talk to them. Somewhere I got a 6.5mm round that some guy pulled off a dead jap and gave to me. Try that now and every r-slurred b-word school administrator will scream that there's a school shooting going on.
Yeah, notoriously the maquis thing is ended in the first episode.
I think they were pushing Neelix/Kes in the first couple years but I will not watch that. Two really bad characters that they apparently were trying to base the show on.
Deep Space Nine benefited a lot from characters that emerged because of the actors even though they weren't meant to be that (Garak, Damar, Dukat, heck all the Ferengis).
Voyager seemed to be strangely the opposite. They had a lot of interesting concepts for main characters, but when it came down to writing an episode it was always there's a shuttle crash and they end up fricking or something. This didn't work for me at the time. It was one of things where Mike Stoklasa says "maybe you don't notice but your brain does".
You watch a lot of asian dramas and you realize it's all about the romance and it's about 12 hours before the rich r-slur (he owns a hospital or somthing) and the poor r-slur (the scrappy hardworking lower class girl)
And then it gets into his mother-in-law. Goddammit Korean ajummas ruin everything. !asians
Look at the new characters on Voyager: You got 7 o' 9 (the producer's girlfriend)
You eventually get Icheb. I guess the writers were so fricking desperate they introduced another neurodivergent into the mix.
The only one who didn't suck was Naomi Wildman.
Little girl. Works if you're a human or a yoda a kitten @Rad_juju .
Introduces no problems into our existing cast.
If we want a story with a kid in the future, we've got one.
I dunno, I watch some of these show and I've never written for TV and they know nothing about the business.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna make any arguments for "Patterns of Force". It was clearly just an excuse to use costumes they had in the prop closet.
I'm not joking at all about this. Some things when making a TV show are surprisingly expensive. Like the costumes because if you're doing the 1960s hot alien chick thing she looks great but the clothes have to be custom made and stuff. And then her stand-in (same height, hair color, skin color) needs to to physically stand there while the lighting guys do their work...
So there's extreme pressure to do a "bottle show" (a show that takes place entirely on the ship so no sets need to be constructed). And if we rob the prop closet we save even more. Note that on TOS they kept running into aliens who were like ancient Romans. Incredibly convenient that they happened to have costumes and props for thousands of people.
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That's what makes it so great, they're quite self-consciously putting on a show.
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Wait do you mean Voyager or TOS? Voyager was tongue-in-cheek, acknowledging that they're not trying to deal with serious issues (except for that 10% when they do and they're good. When I learned what they were trying to do, that's when I started to love it.
As for TOS, I looked this up and apparently it was an idea of John Meredyth Lucas. (He ran the show during the second half of season 2.) Which I find kind of baffling because Voyager actually has way more to say about the war.
Those were the last years when you could just call up the people in it and talk to them. Somewhere I got a 6.5mm round that some guy pulled off a dead jap and gave to me. Try that now and every r-slurred b-word school administrator will scream that there's a school shooting going on.
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I meant the original series. Voyslop has too much fanservice and tries to have an overarching story but it doesn't go anywhere.
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Yeah, notoriously the maquis thing is ended in the first episode.
I think they were pushing Neelix/Kes in the first couple years but I will not watch that. Two really bad characters that they apparently were trying to base the show on.
Deep Space Nine benefited a lot from characters that emerged because of the actors even though they weren't meant to be that (Garak, Damar, Dukat, heck all the Ferengis).
Voyager seemed to be strangely the opposite. They had a lot of interesting concepts for main characters, but when it came down to writing an episode it was always there's a shuttle crash and they end up fricking or something. This didn't work for me at the time. It was one of things where Mike Stoklasa says "maybe you don't notice but your brain does".
You watch a lot of asian dramas and you realize it's all about the romance and it's about 12 hours before the rich r-slur (he owns a hospital or somthing) and the poor r-slur (the scrappy hardworking lower class girl)
And then it gets into his mother-in-law. Goddammit Korean ajummas ruin everything. !asians
Look at the new characters on Voyager: You got 7 o' 9 (the producer's girlfriend)
You eventually get Icheb. I guess the writers were so fricking desperate they introduced another neurodivergent into the mix.
The only one who didn't suck was Naomi Wildman.
Little girl. Works if you're a human or a yoda a kitten @Rad_juju .
Introduces no problems into our existing cast.
If we want a story with a kid in the future, we've got one.
I dunno, I watch some of these show and I've never written for TV and they know nothing about the business.
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