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Ubie 4d ago#7396904
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Some people think it's just a fashion choice, I've been... wait a second... are you an alien shapeshifter trying to make me break the rule at the end of November?
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Ubie 4d ago#7397627
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That's something an alien would say.
I been watching Voyager lately and it's just Brannon Braga run amuck with time travel stuff. Totally out of control. And Joe Menosky doing whatever insane thing comes to his head.
It's what happens when Star Trek fans get allowed to do whatever the frick they want but they at least more self-control than Nick Meyer.
Alien dinosaurs with MP-40s wearing Nazi uniforms? That's not the Star Trek I grew up with, but it has its place.
(BTW the Nazi guy's monologue was seriously the best explanation I've ever heard of Nazi ideology, even better than Hitler. There's actual quality serious things in the middle of the most insane shit that should be a plot for Danger Five like actual fricking Nazi dinosaurs in SS uniforms.)
!dinochads I don't care how old @Cdace was then, I blame him for everything the Hirogen did.'
I mean ffs when is the last time you heard a guy praising space dinosaurs?
Alien dinosaurs with MP-40s wearing Nazi uniforms?
Doesn't this actually happen again on Enterprise? He was really proud of that one.
Also random note, the Hirogen were originally depicted as like 8 feet tall, but when they dropped the mysterious aspect and started showing them in normal angles/lighting, they gave up and made them manlets
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Pibbles 4d ago#7398206
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the Hirogen were originally depicted as like 8 feet tall
I thought this was bullshit just because it's such a bad idea but I looked it up and and you're right.
From the perspective of a guy is just trying to get it done on time on budget, this is the worst thing you could do. You have to redo the lighting. Who are you gonna cast? I got a pretty good knowledge of 1990s character actors and if you wanted extremely tall you had Tony Todd or the bad guy from the X-Files. And every extra has to be that tall too.
It's an incredibly stupid thing for experienced TV writers to do. I don't usually diagnose other people but this screams stimulants. In that era probably cocaine. I'm not saying this lightly, having 8ft aliens on the show is not how sober people run a business.
You have to understand that making a TV show is a real thing, there's a heck of a lot of blue collar labor that goes into it. It's not run off some guy writing something on a napkin at a bar.
Yeah, I'm not gonna make any arguments for "Patterns of Force". It was clearly just an excuse to use costumes they had in the prop closet.
I'm not joking at all about this. Some things when making a TV show are surprisingly expensive. Like the costumes because if you're doing the 1960s hot alien chick thing she looks great but the clothes have to be custom made and stuff. And then her stand-in (same height, hair color, skin color) needs to to physically stand there while the lighting guys do their work...
So there's extreme pressure to do a "bottle show" (a show that takes place entirely on the ship so no sets need to be constructed). And if we rob the prop closet we save even more. Note that on TOS they kept running into aliens who were like ancient Romans. Incredibly convenient that they happened to have costumes and props for thousands of people.
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Redactor0 4d ago#7397840
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>Alien dinosaurs with MP-40s wearing Nazi uniforms? That's not the Star Trek I grew up with, but it has its place.
i suppose it's not as outrageous as the episode where janeway & co learn the dinosaurs actually developed space travel 75 million years ago and are now flying around the delta quadrant in a big dinosaur mothership
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BTW the Nazi guy's monologue was seriously the best explanation I've ever heard of Nazi ideology, even better than Hitler. There's actual quality serious things in the middle of the most insane shit that should be a plot for Danger Five like actual fricking Nazi dinosaurs in SS uniforms.)
Episode number and some rough estimate of when, please.
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Blue but tbh I got a DNR. Frick it.
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Oh shit man. Something serious you wanna talk about?
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Just being a crip.
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Crip neighbor 4 lyfe.
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Some people think it's just a fashion choice, I've been... wait a second... are you an alien shapeshifter trying to make me break the rule at the end of November?
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That's something an alien would say.
I been watching Voyager lately and it's just Brannon Braga run amuck with time travel stuff. Totally out of control. And Joe Menosky doing whatever insane thing comes to his head.
It's what happens when Star Trek fans get allowed to do whatever the frick they want but they at least more self-control than Nick Meyer.
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Alien dinosaurs with MP-40s wearing Nazi uniforms? That's not the Star Trek I grew up with, but it has its place.
(BTW the Nazi guy's monologue was seriously the best explanation I've ever heard of Nazi ideology, even better than Hitler. There's actual quality serious things in the middle of the most insane shit that should be a plot for Danger Five like actual fricking Nazi dinosaurs in SS uniforms.)
!dinochads I don't care how old @Cdace was then, I blame him for everything the Hirogen did.'
I mean ffs when is the last time you heard a guy praising space dinosaurs?
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Doesn't this actually happen again on Enterprise? He was really proud of that one.
Also random note, the Hirogen were originally depicted as like 8 feet tall, but when they dropped the mysterious aspect and started showing them in normal angles/lighting, they gave up and made them manlets
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I thought this was bullshit just because it's such a bad idea but I looked it up and and you're right.
From the perspective of a guy is just trying to get it done on time on budget, this is the worst thing you could do. You have to redo the lighting. Who are you gonna cast? I got a pretty good knowledge of 1990s character actors and if you wanted extremely tall you had Tony Todd or the bad guy from the X-Files. And every extra has to be that tall too.
It's an incredibly stupid thing for experienced TV writers to do. I don't usually diagnose other people but this screams stimulants. In that era probably cocaine. I'm not saying this lightly, having 8ft aliens on the show is not how sober people run a business.
You have to understand that making a TV show is a real thing, there's a heck of a lot of blue collar labor that goes into it. It's not run off some guy writing something on a napkin at a bar.
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Isn't it?
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Yeah, I'm not gonna make any arguments for "Patterns of Force". It was clearly just an excuse to use costumes they had in the prop closet.
I'm not joking at all about this. Some things when making a TV show are surprisingly expensive. Like the costumes because if you're doing the 1960s hot alien chick thing she looks great but the clothes have to be custom made and stuff. And then her stand-in (same height, hair color, skin color) needs to to physically stand there while the lighting guys do their work...
So there's extreme pressure to do a "bottle show" (a show that takes place entirely on the ship so no sets need to be constructed). And if we rob the prop closet we save even more. Note that on TOS they kept running into aliens who were like ancient Romans. Incredibly convenient that they happened to have costumes and props for thousands of people.
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i suppose it's not as outrageous as the episode where janeway & co learn the dinosaurs actually developed space travel 75 million years ago and are now flying around the delta quadrant in a big dinosaur mothership
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The amount of insane dino stuff that went on, i'm pretty sure @Cdace was involved.
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The thought association that goes into an average @Redactor0 comment is as confusing as it is charming.
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That's the nicest thing anybody has ever said about me.
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Hirogen nazi LARP was absolute kino and you will never convince me otherwise
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Oh link the monologue, I'd love to relive the 90s!
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
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Idk fam IMO dnr should be reserved for politicians
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