https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1855182600093995139
They're talking about this amazing event in the history of ethics where a woman curing her own breast cancer was considered unethical for ??? reasons. https://t.co/iK2cvDbPzX pic.twitter.com/kzOphUx1zi
— CrĂ©mieux (@cremieuxrecueil) November 9, 2024
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03647-0
In choosing to self-experiment, Halassy joins a long line of scientists who have participated in this under-the-radar, stigmatized and ethically fraught practice. "It took a brave editor to publish the report," says Halassy.
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Ethicists have strong arguments for their positions. Maybe you should engage with those instead of spewing vapid polemics. What happened to the "facts and logic" your kind supposedly holds so dear?
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lol no.
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You wouldn't know because you've never read any ethics.
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I've read Kant, Nietzsche, a little Hegel, Rawls, a bunch of ancient Greeks, Aquinas, Hume, Hobbes, Locke, Laozi, Pascal, even Marx (the idiot), a little Rousseau, Kierkegaard, a little Habermas (idiot), Searle (meh),..
Which ones do you think are most relevant here?
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You don't think they made good arguments? You might not have understood them. And you haven't read any contemporary academic ethics?
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I haven't seen them make any good arguments for why it is evil to risk your own health in order to prevent your own death.
I've seen lackeys for the pharma industry and bureaucrats whose job title is something with ethics say that, but I wouldn't call what they said "good arguments."
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Then maybe you should look for the people who made the arguments for the position you are ridiculing?
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this post is about that, if you're thinking about some other ethics topic the whole time, you should probably mention it.
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This post is not about the actual arguments, it's about ridiculing the position without bothering to engage with what they are actually arguing.
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https://blog.apaonline.org/2019/12/10/why-arent-ethicists-more-ethical/
ok bucko
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You call yourself ethical yet you didnt call your mother yesterday.
Curious
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this, but unironically. Call your mother, dramatards
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I called your mother a fat b-word the other day
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I have probably forgotten to return hundreds of nearly unused library books over the years
What? Is D'Vontreous just patiently waiting to read them?
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You cannot imagine the damage you've done by denying access to the library's copy or "Critique of Pure Reason"
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Completely besides the point. Failure to act morally and knowing good arguments for what's moral are different.
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Fact: killing a cancer is good.
Fact: ethicists are a social cancer.
Logic: killing ethicists is good.
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what about cyberbullying them
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Strong arguments in this case of course, refers not to real arguments but arbitrary personal ethics
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Obviously wrong, ethics is all about making strong arguments.
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Okay, do you have any books on ethics we should read to enlighten ourselves?
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Introductory level textbooks, I suppose.
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