Scientists and ethicists debate the hard questions - "Is it ethical to cure cancer?"

Ethicists consider near birth abortions, vax mandates, and ing kids ethical but curing cancer isn't

So !chuds the real question is "Is it ethical to throw ethicists into the ocean from helicopters?"

>Dramatards when cis foid self-administers experimental cancer therapy

>Dramatards when our very own tries to self-administer experimental gene therapy

i mean i guess.. otherwise you'd just have psychopaths convincing people to try experimental shit under the guise of self administration

Barry Marshall did it and he has a Nobel Prize

Previously, on rdrama: the next generation...

Did she ask permission from a man before experimenting on her body?

"Ethicists" should be shot and then thrown into a hole.

Even more worthless than Influencers.

She cured her own breast cancer...in bad faith

ethics of self-experimentation

How do you manage to pack such a profoundly retarded worldview into such few words? Moralstrags come up with the funniest excuses to listen to their opinions.

That ethical dilemma subsection of that Nature article is also just :

The problem is not that Halassy used self-experimentation as such, but that publishing her results could encourage others to reject conventional treatment and try something similar, says Sherkow.

Who are these "others"? Do they have the background to be reading and understanding fucking academic papers? Why aren't these tard reviewers using the "your results are not replicable" justification here for rejecting the paper (which may be valid, IDK)? If a treatment is replicable, what makes it worse than "conventional treatment" (why does it not BECOME "conventional treatment" outside of costs or implementation difficulty)?

There's also another reason for rejection mentioned here:

Stephen Russell, an OVT specialist who runs virotherapy biotech company Vyriad in Rochester, Minnesota, agrees that Halassy's case suggests the viral injections worked to shrink her tumour and cause its invasive edges to recede.

But he doesn't think her experience really breaks any new ground, because researchers are already trying to use OVT to help treat earlier-stage cancer. He isn't aware of anyone trying two viruses sequentially, but says it isn't possible to deduce whether this mattered in an 'n of 1' study. "Really, the novelty here is, she did it to herself with a virus that she grew in her own lab," he says

If the results don't break any new ground, it makes the ethicists look even stupider lmao

Ethics is (unfortunately) pure

The real ethical questions have long been answered imo, and reasonable guidelines developed, so all thats left is over-analysing and ivory tower masturbation by overthinking hypotheticals until they bear no semblance to reality.

Whats the ethical problem here, obviously you have the right to experiment on yourself, no ethicist has the right to say youre not allowed to. It just has to be voluntary.

They're gay as frick and want to reduce the amount of boobs they need to see in every day life. Easy

Her body, their choice.

Giving someone MAID for having a headache is perfectly valid chuds but curing your cancer is heckin problematic

A few things are true Medical ethicists are worthless r-slurs in their current incarnation, pretty sure Crémieux is a diet chud, and twitter commenters have no idea what the frick they're commenting on

The only things I can think of being an issue in this case is xir using lab resources and grant funding to treat cirselfx.

Studies of one being of limited value. Sure it works for her, but the Steve Jobs fruit juice cure "works" for a few people, too. I imagine there is some value to the treatment but a population of one won't make people move any faster on it.

Self-experimentation idgaf about. Someone can chip their peepee and tits off, what do I care if they inject some defanged bacteria

>expert virologist with oncologist support and lab-grade material supply

It's based, but it's going to inspire r-slurs to try their own garbage at home or buy snake oil, because their only takeway from this story is "woman cures her own cancer, is shunned by scientists"

The courage, conviction, skill, knowledge, determination and (as it turns out) being 100% correct is something to be feted, celebrated and lauded. I unironically salute and admire this lady for her achievements.

I saw this one particular young couple that stood out from the rest only because the girl looked absolutely perfect. She was tall, blonde, and sexy. She would have towered over me in height, and her boyfriend of course towered over her. They were both wearing beach gear, and the girl was in her bikini, showing off to everyone her sensual, erection-causing body. Her blonde hair was wet from swimming in the ocean, and it only made her look more arousing. The two of them were holding hands, and it was clear that they were in love. I saw the boyfriend place his hand on the girl's butt, and when he did this the girl looked at him and smiled with delight. That guy was in heaven. I can only imagine how amazing it must be to have s*x with a girl like that. I had to witness everything I wanted but could not have. It made me feel dizzy with anguish.

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