Russian soldiers abandon Russian city to foreign powers in first time since WWII :marseysaluteussr:

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Russian city

see see, how came this change of mind?

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!sd The First Principal Spirit is a King ruling in the East, called Marsey. She rules over 66 Legions of Infernal Autists. She appears in diverse shapes, sometimes like a Cat, sometimes like a Toad, and sometimes like a Man, and sometimes all these forms at once

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The First Principal Spirit is a King ruling in the East, called Marsey. She rules over 66 Legions of Infernal Autists. She appears in diverse shapes, sometimes like a Cat, sometimes like a Toad, and sometimes like a Man, and sometimes all these forms at once

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!sd dismembered Russians crying

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:#marseypridepearlclutch:

Snapshots:

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I admit I fell for the land based superpower :marseysaluteussr: meme and haven’t paid attention to the conflict enough since the first week.

Is there a good unbiased telling of how we got here? US / NATO weaponry good enough to do this?

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85% has been stupid Russians doing very stupid shit cause a corrupt very inexperienced general told em to.

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A part of it is that Ukraine are fighting with a mix of Russian and NATO equipment, the NATO stuff is in general far superior to anything the Russians have. Take Javelin or HIMARS as examples, they are vastly beyond anything Russia has access to.

The other big factor is access to NATO intelligence and ISR data. Have a look on any flight tracker and you'll see that NATO is keeping 24hr coverage over Ukraine with AWACS and a variety of specialised glowie aircraft. That's without even counting the satellites and SIGINT that NATO has. So basically the Ukrainians have cheat codes that let them see any big moves the Russians make. This is also why they were able to kill so many Russian generals early in the war

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A beautiful mix of

  • underestimating the West’s willingness to keep throwing weapons and money at it and apply actual sanctions.

  • Underestimating the Ukrainian resistance.

  • Overestimating the quality of Russian leadership.

  • Not taking into account good old Russian corruption regarding their supply of arms and vehicles. (All the good shit got sold to african warlords years ago)

  • Sprinkle in a little bit of Putin’s hubris and refusal to throw in the towel

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Morale is a pretty huge factor in war, and the Russians seem to be lacking in it.

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American weaponry is probably being misused the Ukrainians. Yet Ukraine is more determined to fight than Russians lmao

also Putin’s kinda dumb to have started the invasion with a small butt force of 40k(?)

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I read 200k initially. Which is about one fifth of what I'd expect a serious invasion force into Ukraine to look like.

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I don’t know exact number but invading a country isn’t something you half butt

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Ukraine has been building up since the writing was on the wall in 2014

Russia severely underestimated them and went for a quick and easy regime change, sacrificing a lot of their highly skilled assets as they went into the jaws of heck without any support. They lost a lot of irreplaceable men for no real gain

Ukraine has an overwhelming advantage in numbers and has a lot of strategic intelligence from the US. The effect of high quality American weapons like the Javelin is overstated and it’s mostly funding and intel that are keeping them ahead as far as US support goes, but Ukraine is also doing a great job committing to the fight in its own right.

Things looked bad as they mostly sat on their hands for a good while, only responding instead of taking the initiative. When they finally counterattacked the Russians folded like a house of cards, it was better than the best-case scenarios Ukraine planned on

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The last resort is Putin firing nukes, even one into the USA as "revenge on America".

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The Russian government basically handled this in the absolute stupidest way possible from the onset of the conflict. That's not to say the Russian military isn't in worse shape than many thought, but the upper-level decision-making has basically gauranteed that this entire conflict has been a clusterfrick from top to bottom.

In terms of NATO support, intelligence and supply logistics have been far more decisive than any NATO weapons systems given to Ukraine.

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Honestly, no. If you find one, link me it and I’ll send you 100 DC. The short version is that Russia underestimated Zelensky’s willingness to fight since Ukraine didn’t have the most robust government, and underestimated the west’s willingness to invest in the conflict (since Ukraine didn’t have the most robust government).

In both cases it was Russia’s hubris.


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Those aren't the only reasons. Russian intel must have been completely incompetent at gaguing Ukraine's military buildup since 2014 with the US's help. In addition to that the Russian military was more rotten both in culture and equipment than they themselves knew. What was it, 200,000 russian soldiers who participated in the initial invasion? I thought Ukraine was fricked until I saw that number, then I thought Russia didn't know what they were getting themselves into. How poorly informed would you have to be to try to take a neighbour with 311,000 active military personnel, and a million more reservists, with 200,000 troops in repurposed ice cream trucks?

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the tankies on chapotraphouse no longer pinned their war megathread, ruskies really btfo’d

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Why are redditoids so personally invested in this conflict?Ps is obsessed

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Russia is a simulacra for Republicans.

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Bots. Lots and lots of bots. 90% of Ukraine discussion on Reddit is a bunch of bots circlejerking off.

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!sd marsey shooting a gun at russian tanks

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marsey shooting a gun at russian tanks

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!sd marsey cute anime girl with katana

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marsey cute anime girl with katana

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!sd marsey muscular martial artist throwing a punch

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marsey muscular martial artist throwing a punch

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!sd Muscular martial artist killing Redditors.

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Muscular martial artist killing Redditors.

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!sd marsey the cat muscular martial artist

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(Post)modern warfare kino

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Because they were indoctrinated by 4 years of Trump = Russia = Bad. To them this is catharsis for all that pent up scapegoating.

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This subject makes all the reddit style thinkers on this site sperg out.

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Russians used Chemical weapons in the UK only a couple years ago so personally Im enjoying their children being sent to the meat grinder out of perverse sense of justice

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Armchair generals, also the utterly wrong belief that this is near-peer warfare, despite the fact that Russian junk has been getting obliterated in every conflict with NATO technology since the Gulf War. They have nukes, that's why they have a seat at the table.

Also to engage in Reddit favourite pastime of pretending to be an expert in geopolitics despite not knowing where half the countries are.

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The explanation I needed. Ty

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I love the switch to

 

>lol who cares :marseyseethe#:


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:#marseyseethe:

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:#marseymerchant:

:#marseysleep:

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Idk about burgers but as a Europoor it actually affects me. Plus this seems like a once in a century opportunity to put Russia back in the dark ages where they belong

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Europoors didn’t listen to anyone and had to hitch their wagon to the ruskies. Taking cold showers to own Putin is probably my favorite thing from 2022

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Forced cold showers will make europeans not kitties again. I only see it as a good thing.

Also kill some olds because of the cold, so less expenses to the social security nets.

I only see advantages from this decision.

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Definitely open up room for more immigrants!

I take cold showers regardless

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Wanting your aggressive global enemies to fail is the only remotely good thing redditoids have ever wanted, what do you mean

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Cause it's a near-peer war on European soil, which is something we didn't expect to ever happen outside the context of WW3.

Also it has the heckin' good guys (not nazis) vs the bad guys (Russians, basically nazis).:marseysoylentgrin:

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I don’t really care myself, but it’s nice to see the US military industrial complex take L’s tbh. The Rothchild bank will win in the end, they always do.

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I don’t really care myself

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it’s nice to see the US military industrial complex take L’s tbh

What L's?

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A blunt :marseyjoint:

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I reread it several times and I don't get it either. Where's the L for the US? Nobody knows for sure if they're involved directly or not (probably not as in CIA or Army Rangers are probably not on the ground like they were in Syria) so literally nothing looks like an L for us unless Russia wrecks the whole place despite our financial support, which is far from certain as a future outcome.

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How on earth do you see this conflict being anything but an enormous win for America’s private military industrial complex and national defense intelligence?

Even @TelegramShill agrees the only winner in this meatgrinder saga so far is the US.


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you must have misunderstood, I’m saying ‘the us’ will win in the end, they always do.

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As in forcefully taking Ls to give them out?


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Seems like the US's gear is so good it can win a war without us even being there.

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:marseysoylentgrin:Oh sweet summer child :marseysoyrope:

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Don't be stupid. US military personnel isn't present in Ukraine. They're in Poland, chucking as many end-of-life weapons as they can over the border.

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Yep exactly, lol this topic really makes the redditoids on this site go mask off :sciencejak:

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The only good rDrama users are from /r/drama

MEDfugees, Ruqqcels, and other misc r-slurs are our asiatic steppe peoples and ethnic minorities that we’re conscripting first.

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Frick you for effortlessly trouncing my attempts at controversial comments

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I don't even know what we're talking about, take my updoot fellow dramatard :marseycheers:

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I’m love you :marseymarseylove::marseyembrace:

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end-of-life weapons

This is the best part; a vast majority of the material we're giving Ukraine is stuff we don't even need.

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Putin: We're going to engage a de-nazification campaign.

All the Russian soldiers die...

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siiiiiiiip yep I've been waiting to see Ruskies get BTFO since 1979

:#marseyboomer:

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I wouldn't say ukros are the good guys, but commies are on russians' side, so...

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Why do commies still simp for Russia when it's a straight up one party conservative state.

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:#marseythonk:

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Commies love one party dictatorship that resist every form of progress that they disagree with.

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Geopolitics is first geo than politics :marseyshrug:

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Uhh.. you answered your own question

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I fricking love pears

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Frick, you saw it before i edited my mistake:marseycry:

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But pears are great, no shame in that

!sd Marsey eating a pear

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They are, it's true. I have a pear tree in my garden and it's pear season at the moment

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Marsey eating a pear

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The middle marsey

:#marseylove:

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!sd Marsey shooting a gun at Zombie Wolf

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Marsey shooting a gun at Zombie Wolf

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Top right is what happens when marsey ate too many pears

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:#marseyhappytears:

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