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BREAKING NEWS!!! THE DRUGS DONT FUKCING WORK!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12509573/FDA-rule-TODAY-pulling-Benadryl-Sudafed-pharmacy-shelves-growing-evidence-dont-work.html

!schizos we were right all along AGAIN!

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Lol look at all the drug addicts in this thread. 🤣

Go hiking you pathetic NEETS.

0 allergy nature enjoyer here. Sucks to be all of you.

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Phenylephrine is everywhere and every nasal decongestant contains it

Only in cucked countries that banned pseudoephedrine.

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I worked with a few people addicted to it. Literally couldn't breath without some sniff everyday.

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I got addicted to the oxymetazoline sprays. Thought i just had persistent allergies but eventually realized it was the spray.

You use the spray, blood vessels constrict, you breathe easier. But your nasal membrane is oxygen-deprived during that time so when the spray wears off, your membrane swells ( :wink: ) as a healing response. So you get stuffy and use the spray again.

It was a nightmare of a weekend breaking the cycle.

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I'm completely dependent on oxymetazoline. How did you go about breaking the habit?

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Cold turkey. A shitty weekend of being unable to breathe. The first night was the worst but by Sunday night I could breathe well enough to sleep.

I had been using it pretty consistently for maybe 18 months or so.

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This is a deeply unsatisfying answer (I would have liked to have been handed some magic trick to get through it), but at least the timeframe is bearable. It's not like I'm giving up heroin or something.

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Flonase is safe to use, but it's more of a "use once a day, effect takes 2-3 weeks to settle in".

Maybe some vicks vaporub to help decongest during the weekend?

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Become a mouthbreather

:#marseypikachu2:

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Go. Hiking. Exposure to nature. Clean :marseybongojanny: your air filters. Take vitamins.

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Take vitamins

Globohomo

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Doesn't actual decongestant rebound hard tho and make you super stuffy after a couple of days?

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Ye, that's how you get addicted

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Pseudo is the absolute shit if you're actually sick

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Remember what they took from you

:#marseywock:

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where they take it to, g?

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As someone with Sinus issues I've known this for decades at this point. Pseudoephedrine is really the only thing I've found that works for fairly quick relief. Like yea Zyrtec and Claritin can help used regularly but if you need relief now PE is where it's at

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Just snort :marseycocaine: pollen :marseybeekeeper: every day and your allergies will go away

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You might :marseybee: on to something

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Realtalk i go hiking all the time and have 0 allergies.

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I know that's the meme, but literally the only thing I'm allergic to is fescue and I'm exposed to large amounts of it basically every day my entire life. Exposure does nothing for allergies.

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I guess :marseyshrug: it does depend on biology. I get every other disease :marseynurgle: known to man from the woods so it might be like that mr burns :marseyschizo: disease :marseynurgle: simpsons :marseyleavingbush: gif. But no allergies.

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Xylometazoline hydrochloride works pretty well too. Similar effect to pseudo, without the fun.

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The only way I can survive is a claritin and nasal spray as soon as I wake up and a little exercise to clear it up.

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See my earlier comment, that nasal spray is addictive as heck if it's the generic "nasal decongestant" stuff. Flonase is ok though

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I took Flonase back when it was a pharmacy only drug. All it did was dry out my nose so badly I ended up with a nosebleed so bad I had to go to the doctor. At least it smelled nice.

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Frick, here I was thinking I was mostly over my allergies and I just realized it's the adderall. I guess the allergy tests my PCP ordered to bilk my insurance were right.

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>Phenylephrine

Decade-old studies showed it was no better than placebo, why does anyone buy it?

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Because you can't buy real pseudoephedrine if you need it outside of pharmacy business hours, plus it gets shoved into combination cold medicines* that used to contain pseudoephedrine before the restrictions

*I assume this is what the article means by Benadryl


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It's much easier just to buy the component drugs and take them individually.

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Share your mix qween!

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I think some people don't know they can go to the pharmacy and ask for a medication that works provided they show ID

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shhhhh don't let them know. I already have a hard time finding generic 12 hour in stock.

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Oh yeah I usually have a solid stock of it. Nobody knows about pseudo and idk why

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Because if you're buying pseudo you might as well just buy ephedrine

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I wonder how FDA "testing" under normal protocols, like with this drug, compares to the "testing" done for the emergency use authorization

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/09/527575055/one-third-of-new-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval

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Weird how it took us this long to determine the effectiveness of something that has been used by hundreds of millions of people.... :marseyhmmm:

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The Science™ has changed, don't question it.


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Neighbor :marseyfrickyou2: you could've looked up at any point :marseysocratesyourself: the efficacy of phenylephrine. Don't blame drug companies for your lack of education sweaty :marseychoice2:

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FRICKING FINALLY

Everyone has been saying this for going on 2 decades now.


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They've known for decades it doesn't work but they think it can cross the blood-brain barrier. Don't worry, though. At least the US is meth free.

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@FrozenChosen what does this mean for economy???

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Nothing, this has been known for a long time. Just get pseudoephedrine

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Yo i BEEN saying this.

All medicine is placebo btw

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All suffering :marseypain: is psychosomatic


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Ok next question.

How to trip balls on otc meds?

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DXM (but make sure no acetaminophen).

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There's also that shit they add that starts with a G, like gaustofin or something, that they only put in to make you sick if you take too much. The biggest r-slurred pothead cute twink in the dorm wing told me this 25 years ago and I assume it's still true

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but make sure no acetaminophen

Why? What does it do (other than be a shitty ibuprofen substitute)?

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It will frick up your liver if you take enough of Delsym or whatever cough medicine with dxm in it to trip your balls off 🤗 don't worry, you should be able to find some without it. /r/dxm

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Next question: how do i cute itchy ballsack disease?

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Jock itch? Think you need an antibacterial soap.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319086

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Its probably some other disease :marseynurgle: but thanks.

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I haven't robotripped in years but I've noticed none of the chain stores carry unadulterated instant release DXM hbr anymore (aka plain brand Robitussin). All you can get now is extended release DXM polistirex (brand Delsym, it works but you're tripping for almost an entire day), or instant release DXM hbr mixed with guaifenesin and/or acetaminophen.


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Just buy robotabs on Amazon lol

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Back in my day it was robocough but I think amazon nixed that stuff a while ago


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How do you do the fortune :marseyrabbitnewyear2: thing

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Who the frick takes benadryl for allergies? You can bet your butt if you lock yourself in a dark room with 20 bennies you're gonna have a good time.

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>Phenylephrine

Oh thank god these fricking r-slurs have been shoving this into everything for ages despite it being a shitty placebo """"replacement"""" for pseudoephedrine :marseyeyeroll:

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I have bad seasonal allergies and remember years ago there used to be this awesome horsepill sized thing you could get over the counter that would brute force your sinuses into relief in like a day but I can never remember what it was.

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I have bad seasonal allergies

Fricking CUUUUUUCK

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Supposedly bc I spend more time outside than inside I get it worse too

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Ivermectin does help. 60% of usa population is infested with worms and don't even know it, including myself.

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but pure dph is fine lol

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Regular pink benadryl is only dph. I thought from the headline they were going to get rid of it. I know it's not good for you, but on occasion it's the only thing that makes me sleep so I'd hate to see it go.

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even occasional use is linked to dementia why not find literally anything else

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I almost never take it anymore. I used to occasionally, but I have a magnesium supplement that usually puts me out these days.

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thats good bro i just dont want u to get dementia i wanna be 80 still postin here wit all my r-slur homies

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thanks for looking out for me, man

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:#@finbarfinlove::#@finbarfinlove::#@finbarfinlove:

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Me too thanks

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Imagine how fun it would :marseymid: be if we were all demented.


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Don't all these drugs containe one of the main ingredients to making meth?

I know my local drug stores all refused to stock it due to that. They always kept getting robbed

So do they actuslly not work or is this some bs attempted to curb cooking meth?

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The drug the article is talking about (phenylephrine) was introduced as an alternative to the meth-ingredient-drug (pseudoephedrine).

You can't make meth with phenylephrine, which is why companies started using it instead of pseudoephedrine for OTC drugs (under legal threat from the government). You can still buy (limited quantities of) pseudoephedrine at pharmacies that stock it, but it's kept in the back with the controlled drugs and you have to show ID to the pharmacist.

The problem is, phenylephrine does not work at all. It's as effective as a sugar pill. There have been studies proving this going back decades, and anybody with allergies that has tried both knows this from experience. Unfortunately, the only one that works is the meth one.


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Ah okay thanks

Yea I can attest to this then as well. Anytime I would take any of those recently they never did shit

Now I know why

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It's to fight :marseyryu: meth production.


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In Brazil you can get pseudoephedrine OTC, macacocels stay winning https://i.rdrama.net/images/1694550999291205.webp

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@Garry_Chess did you know about this??!

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I don't think nurses dabble in that kind of stuff, they just do as they're told

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No idea. I don't personally use it and not something if ever prescribe so I don't follow that pharmacophore whatsoever

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:#marseymedsgenocide:

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AFAICT it does work as a nose spray, but the pills are pointless, because only a tiny amount gets from the gut to the nose.

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AFAIK you are not a scientist.

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AFAYK

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There's been NUMEROUS studies proving phenylephrine is no better :marseysaulgoodman: than placebo. This is really :marseythinkorino2: cringe :marseysmug3: post

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