@KingofZembla's comment on '“How will we travel in the Solarpunk utopia?” Smooth brains :marseysmoothbrain: at r/solarpunk imagine a world without planes :marseyplane:'

“How will we travel in the Solarpunk utopia?” Smooth brains :marseysmoothbrain:

at r/solarpunk imagine a world without planes :marseyplane:

/r/solarpunk is a sub for those interested in “solarpunk aesthetics” which means carbon free degrowth utopias for their scifi stories/games, etc.

Naturally their zero CO2 emissions world has no place for planes.

https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/113j3et/how_do_we_travel_overseas_in_a_solarpunk/

>We travel across oceans in blimps and sail boats.

>I imagine solar sail boats or potentially algae powered? It would need to be something regenerative and we would need to sacrifice speed. There is no “weekend in Paris” and is a bit more arduous.

A bit arduous is quite an understatement

>Without the pressure of a capitalist rat-race, I hope people take traveling sabbaticals. These will by design not be quick. So, hitching a ride on a freighter (sail/ammonia/solar powered) or using a hydrogen-filled dirigible to get around seem like good options.

Once we get rid of capitalism everyone will be free to sail around the world :marseywholesome:

This is literally how it was done for all of history until the mid-1800s.

Sailing across the oceans was quite dangerous back then, I doubt redditcels will enjoy being in the middle of the Atlantic during a storm.

https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/r267s1/the_future_of_long_distance_air_travel_airships/

sail boats. people will have a lot more time to travel. in fact the voyage will be as important as the time spent in the destination, if not more important.

in fact i'm willing to bet that, in the future people will spend way more time travelling the world than we do now. because our "union" will not be because we share products it will be because we will share experiences.

humanity will not be tied economically it will be tied because we, our friends and family will have shared real experiences all around the world. no longer people will look at someone else from another country as another species because we will all travel around the world.

:marseysurejan#:

Bonus, some discussion on their meme ideologies

https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1bbgodf/political_ideologies/

>Most compatible:

>Eco-Anarchism

>Communalism/democratic Confederalism (Bookchin-Ocalan/Rojava model)

>Most forms of Socialism.

>Least compatible:

>Neoliberalism

>Any type of Fascism (including Eco-Fascism)

>Any theocratic ideologies

Oh no !neolibs bros :marseypearlclutch#:

Lot's of “wholesome degrowth”

!anticommunists

https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/184t7r7/green_growth_or_degrowth_what_is_the_right_way_to/

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TournamentFishingButJolly ye/haw :marseyglep!:

8mo ago #6094325

Once we get rid of capitalism everyone will be free to sail around the world

Reminds me of that classic bit of Steinbeck commies love to misquote:

Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: 'After the revolution even we will have more, won't we, dear?' Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise heck with Sunday picknickers on her property. I guess the trouble was that we didn't have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist.

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KingofZembla king/sire It's a cool place! TournamentFishingButJolly 8mo ago #6094608

It's unironically blackpilling to look at stuff like the American time use survey and see that all this labor saving tech basically just leads to more tv and phone usage. Sure I'm guilty of it too, I'm peepeeing around on a gay cat website right now, but all this lofty talk about writing a novel in the morning, sheparding sheep in the evening. The best commies would get with antiwork/luxury communism or whatever it's called is even more people watching the Today Show, but with red banners