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Green Revolution misinformation rant :marseyraging:

Hi everyone :#marseywave3: :#marseywave2:

I just want to rant a bit about misinformations I hear from “educational” and “intellectual” sectors in my country regarding agriculture and the Green Revolution.

For those of you who don't know, Brazil is s breadbasket, along with our neighbors Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. Brazil alone produces enough food for over 1 billion people which has lead to a prosperous agro business in the country, speaking from a family background, my maternal grandma was a dairy farmer and she still keeps a small garden to plant veggies on her house. My late paternal grandpa was was a seed salesman and he owned a Silo at one point and my dad is an agronomist (though his company works with forestry). Most cities in the Southern Countryside are agricultural focused, similar to the American Midwest, the Centre-West region of Brazil is another breadbasket however their focus is on cattle (though soybean production increasing). The Agro is incredibly professionalized and Brazil has produces industrialized Agro derived products like Soybean oils, processed coffee and biofuels.

That being said it is no secret the Brazilian left loathes the Agricultural system, but what makes me particularly angry is how much they misinform or straight up lie about making use of “educational channels”.

For instance I've noticed on Youtube channels like Brasil Escola and other Youtube “Professors/Teachers” will rant about how the Green Revolution is bad because of Rural Exodus and the horror, PEOPLE MAKING MONEY OUT OF SELLING CROPS :#marseyscream: :#marseypikachu2:

The worst part is that these “teachers” make their videos to prepare High School Seniors for the ENEM tests (the ENEM is kind of like the American SAT). The ENEM itself is extremely politicized as you need to write an essay (redação) about a given subject. The subject changes every year. For instance the 2022 Redação Subject was “Challenges facing the traditional peoples of Brazil”, that is the indigenous and quilombolas. Last year the subject was “Challenges to face the invisibility of caretaking work made by women”. In 2019 it was “democratization of cinema access in Brazil”, and so on.

Scrolling down the comments of the Youtube Teachercels channels I keep finding the same nonsensical claim:

>FAMILY AGRICULTURE FEEDS 75% OF OUR POPULATION WE DON'T NEED AGRO

>GMOs ARE POISONOUS AND CAUSE CANCER

>LE EVIL MONSANTO

:#marseyeyeroll:

I always read this nonsense online when leftoids talk about the Agro Business. That number is false.

https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/agronegocio/agricultura-familiar-nao-precisa-da-falsa-propaganda-de-que-produz-70-dos-alimentos/

O censo agropecuário de 2017, o mais recente, também desmentiu os números superestimados da produção familiar, e revelou que as propriedades assim enquadradas respondiam por 23% do valor total da produção dos estabelecimentos agropecuários.

The real number is around 23%

I remember the commies at /r/brasil soying about the MST (Movimento dos sem Terra) or “Landless Movement” a leftist group dedicated to private property occupation. They talked about the MST as id they singlehandedly fed the entire country.

Now, without mentioning their claims are completely bollocks, it seems they would rather disrupt the entire AGRO and place it under new forests or subsistence farming. Excluding the fact this would kill dozens of millions abroad and starve hundreds of millions by disrupting food supplies, it would cause starvation in Brazil as even the demonized AGRO crops (soybeans, maize, wheat) and cattle go beyond export.

Quando se fala de soja, ela está presente em vários outros alimentos, no óleo, no suíno, no bovino, no peixe. Ela é base da ração para esse tipo de rebanho. Você não se alimenta de soja de uma maneira geral, mas indiretamente ela entra na alimentação. > Com o milho é a mesma coisa. O frango é um milho com asa: 73% do frango é milho”, diz o pesquisador da Embrapa.

Corn and soy are used to produce oils and they feed the livestock which is consumed by Brazilians and foreigners alike. Not to mention derivate products like noodles and processed stuff. There's also coffee and cotton, the first is present in almost every Brazilian Household, the latter is the source for clothing.

These São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro teachercels and their leftoid “students” have an extremely romantic, idealized vision of subsistence agriculture to the point of being close to Noble Savage myths. That being said, President Lula is a strange man on this regard.

Lula has close relationships with MST leaders and allowed for this anti agro propaganda to thrive inside our Educational System (it's not only Youtube channels, regular teachers and they commie unions are the same), however when it comes to actual policy he's all business as usual. He always nominates centre-right agriculture ministers from Agro dominated states, he has meetings with Agro producers and businessmen and promotes our exports to China while trying to secure Fertilizer imports from Russia (also a reason why Bolsonaro was friendly with Russians despite the Ukraine debacle). It could be argued he pays lip service to MSTcels.

Anyways, I think this one of the most damaging and dangerous types of virtue signaling and feel good politics, I hope they never get their way but right now is kind of worrying how much PR this sort of nonsensical callous misinformation campaign currently has.

!macacos !neolibs

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MayflyAlt-98 Your/Grace Self-taught hypebeast 25d ago #6297528

This bs is all insane totalitarian nightmare fuel. Unironically. They want us weak, feeble and powerless.

The public in the UK have constantly been reassured that the wacky policy we see in proposal documents is not happening for the reason of social engineering:

“The UK government has 'no intention' of telling the public to eat less meat in the battle against climate change, claims the Environment Secretary.” -The Daily Mail, 8 June 2022

This is a half-truth, The UK will instead leave it to regional governments to to explicitly force people to eat less meat. One of the justifications for the reductions in Welsh livestock is directly based on the idea of forcing people into lower meat diets via lower meat consumption:

“The evidence clearly shows that for the sake of planetary and human health, global diets must converge towards much higher proportions of plant-based foods, such as those based on coarse grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables, and nuts and seeds, with significant reductions in consumption of meat (especially red meat) and little to no consumption of ultra-processed foods.”

“Food systems interventions that address diet change and seek to expand access to sustainable, healthy foods therefore have significant potential to combine climate mitigation with a range of broader benefits for nature, human health and societal inequality.”

-The Wales Centre for Public Policy

This is not merely some fringe action group putting forth this report; The Wales Centre for Public Policy is funded directly by The Welsh Government and by the Economic and Social Research Council, which funded by the UK government. These are not policies that are theoretical or ethereal, the animals are already dead and they were killed explicitly so that you would have less meat to eat in a effort to control the weather. That is their own internal reasoning.

This represents a form of modern Lysenkoism, where politics is put above the practical realities of farming and runs counter to human knowledge about food production. Lysenko believed the Soviet Union could grow crops using proletariat will as a fertiliser. UK technocrats believe they can feed a country sustainably whilst reducing food production and drastically increasing the population via mass immigration.

What the UK Government has signed up by committing to a legally binding Net Zero target is the complete removal of cows from the UK as practical mass scale carbon capture currently does not exist. A report into the realities of Net Zero implementation with current technology advises that to meet the Net Zero targets ALL ruminants, that is sheep and cows, must be “phased out:”

“Food and agriculture: Beef and lamb phased out by 2050 and replaced by greatly expanded demand for vegetarian food. Electricity supply for food processing and storage will be cut by 50% […] leather production (which depends on cows) would not be compatible with Absolute Zero for the same reasons given for beef earlier” -Absolute Zero Report

!chuds post your favourite reality-pilled substack. :marseychud:

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neoconshill gau/cho MayflyAlt-98 25d ago #6297537

Food and agriculture: Beef and lamb phased out by 2050 and replaced by greatly expanded demand for vegetarian food. Electricity supply for food processing and storage will be cut by 50% […] leather production (which depends on cows) would not be compatible with Absolute Zero for the same reasons given for beef earlier” -Absolute Zero Report

Great, it means we'll sell more soybeans and soy based products to Britain :marseycapitalistmanlet:

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MayflyAlt-98 Your/Grace Self-taught hypebeast neoconshill 25d ago #6297544

South America will have "Degrowth" imposed on it and "Re-Wild" for heckin' carbon capture. :soyjakwow:

neoconshill gau/cho MayflyAlt-98 25d ago #6297578 Edited 25d ago

Goes to show how ill thought these “environmentalists” plans are. I understand stopping subsidies for European agriculture for economic reasons, but phasing out our agriculture because “save le forests and indigenous peoples” will cause mass starvation not only here but in Asia and Europe as well.

The EU is shooting themselves on the foot trying to impose their ridiculous high environment standards to our agriculture during the Mercosul-EU trade deal negotiations, even Lula call them out, not just Bolsonaro. By doing so they're pushing South America towards China and Russia, most of Brazil's agricultural exports go there and the chinese don't give a flying frick about environmental regulations. I don't like neither China nor Russia but realpolitik wise is hard to maintain good relations with Euros while they offer almost nothing in return.