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How do we solve climatechange? According to redditors with degrowth, socialism and fedposting :marseyflamewar: :marseyplanet: :marseyburgers:

https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/1dad5ku/how_do_you_think_we_can_realistically_solve_this/

								

								

/r/climatechange (a.k.a. Collapse light) has some ideas

Stop having a economic system where the default is growth for growths sake

This; the road starts here. IMO it's exactly why we won't achieve it by choice. We will achieve it via collapse though, I'm certain.

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. - Edward Abbey :#soyjakfat:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mNv4TGx2bO5sOSziCm4PR9nqnCN_FEqW/view?pli=1

Collapse is becoming the secular version of the Rapture lmao.

Mexico is an example of slow GDP growth but measurable improvements in many people's lives.

:#marseylaughpoundfist: :#taylaugh:

How can we pressure the government? All I can think of are like protests.

i would not be surprised to see eco-terrorists by the end of this decade

and frankly, even that might not change much

I see this as the only thing that might make an impact. But it will probably be too late by the time people take action.

Stochastic violence like that won't do anything to help us here.

Don't get me wrong I'm totally fine with it, it just won't move the needle unfortunately

:#marseyglow: :#marseyfedposthmmm:

!bookworms this reminds me of the KSR “Ministry of the Future” review. The author thinks the majority will totally sympathize with eco-terrorists and governments will totally yield to them. Yeah I'm sure people will be thrilled if eco-terrorists blow up a coal power plant, one positive out of it is subs like collapse being banned after becoming a honeypot for green terrorist sympathizers.

I still think the more likely scenario is no eco-terrorism as enviromentalistcels are too soy and depressed to engage in violence besides giving social media upmarseys.

End the production of useless crap like iPhones every year or cheap plastic shit that breaks in a year.

Have manufacturers work on high quality stuff with fair working conditions and environmental regulations.

No Smart phone ever year. You get a easily fixable and sustainable Fairphone every five years made from recycled parts

Lmao !anticommunists !neolibs

https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/1daar5e/how_do_help_contribute_making_our_climate_better/

https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/1da4xqs/world_likely_to_blast_beyond_grim_warming/

Massive death tolls, mass migration and economic disruption, followed by famine and governmental instability, leading to authoritarianism and war. Can't wait. Yet people keep talking about polar bears and sea levels.

:#doomerchud:

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End the production of useless crap like iPhones every year or cheap plastic shit that breaks in a year

Unironically right.

The production of useless tat is a travesty. Funko Pops should be banned and if you own one you should be shot.

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I wonder what's the average carbon footprint of /r/collapse regulars? :#marseythonk:

!nooticers

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it's low. they do walk the walk. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17179907285713081.webp

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They are all definitely in the top 10% of carbon footprint, e-waste, single use plastics, etc. worldwide.

It's always the libshit consoom fricks talking about this stuff.

Most rightoids at least fantasize about self sustaining and playing with shit covered punji sticks in the forest, which is more than I can say for the average bugman.

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>using mexico as an example of anything positive or that should be seen as positive

:#mjlol:

Literally 0 trans lives matter

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Yeah, when I think of ecofuturism Mexico is hardly the place that comes to mind..

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or, get this...

we let people do whatever they want and whatever happens happens

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climate chung is a problem of the mind :marseycrazy:

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This image kills commies.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17179719941977344.webp

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Now plot China alongside :marseysmirk:

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Bro is buying an iPhone every year lol

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I've been using thr same phone for 8 years since I have a TB SD card installed :marseybigbrain:

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:marseykingcrow#n:

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>I explain in precise terms that I don't want to join a suicide cult

>"Trust me bro they're chill"

>It's a suicide cult

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I still think the more likely scenario is no eco-terrorism as enviromentalistcels are too soy and depressed to engage in violence besides giving social media upmarseys.

The only cool environmentalists were the :marseyunibombersaint: eco-fascist since they implicitly understood having endless immigration and demand for more land development put enormous strain on your native wildlife and habitat.

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degrowth is anticommunism

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Have manufacturers work on high quality stuff with fair working conditions and environmental regulations.

>enact policies that increase the cost of the good

Do any of them mention a 50% sales tax? That's all you really need.

No Smart phone ever year. You get a easily fixable and sustainable Fairphone every five years made from recycled parts

>get a shitty phone that burned more resources to build instead of making a new cheap phone

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This is just a religion. The lib religions are gradually merging into a death and castration cult.

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Yeah i think its probably fake

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Ecosterity, gotta fix that carbon deficit

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As long as the developing world wants to stop living in shithole conditions, westoids won't have any leverage in the global energy use conversation. Maybe we should try hating poor people?

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Stop voting for people who deny that the problem exists.

We'll never make any progress because the leftoids want to go back and refight weather climate change is real like it's 2000, not come up with solutions for what we should do now.

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The ideological fixation of these people is really weird. We're already gradually solving the whole environment issue.

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>Mexico is an example of slow GDP growth but measurable improvements in many people's lives.

lmao I know a guy who paid workers down there in packs of beer to build his house

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